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SCAMMER ALERT - ekiM/Ahtu/HapIoReturns/ Haplo?

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Canadian guy offers Driving service 

http://l2classic.club/forum/topic/19095-need-a-driver-check-here/

Uses nick on forum ekiM. Looked ok so i let him drive one of CP chars for 1 prime. I took off valueable items from char, left it with basic items. The guy came on  TS, was nice, ganked with us, everything looked ok but the next day i logged, char was still looking ok, but WereHouse was cleared. He sold everything that had any value, old dyes, toi energys, c weapons, also scammed B weapon from wh etc but didnt touch any items that were equiped on the char - stange right?. He was from Canada (French Canada). He used nick Ahtu on TS. According to GM investigation, his 2nd char has nick HapIoReturns. There is also forum account, that started to be active lately: @HapIohttp://l2classic.club/forum/profile/1909-hapio/. Scammed B weapon was traded with other player for +10 Cursed Maingauche and @HapIo was recently selling +13 Cursed maingauche http://l2classic.club/forum/topic/19134-wts-or-trade-13-cursed-maingauche-sold/?tab=comments#comment-133289 - Similar nick and similar items, suspicious right? Scammer is from clan Chilli!  Take care. 

 

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makes sense, @HapIo returning had no idea we got service to investigate scammers, coz he left back in 1.0 :D he said he missed l2 dramas so here he have it :D

ps i still think it was Progressive

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54 minutes ago, FryderykChopin said:

Would be very sad if real @HapIo had to do with any of this :/ GMs should investigate it thoroughly to clear his name ^_^

it was investigated by gms, you shouldnt be so attached to ppl just because they played here on start, also the guy is active on discord under nick haplo (100% same guy as i talked with him there and he said he is canadian)

what can i say, even canada has its exceptions and moment he said he is french canadian, i had feeling it will be bad ;) i cannot even say he was smart to scam it this way, so many mistakes he did its even embarassing 

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There are not so many people from North America here. Especially from Canada.... especially from Quebec....playing EU prime....mb it was me.. did you check it?

 

On 5/4/2018 at 3:22 PM, MoDoy said:

 moment he said he is french canadian, i had feeling it will be bad ;)

 

What made you believe that the french Canadians are different from the rest? Do you have experience or just wrote it cuz on this forum racist judgments are not punished?

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6 minutes ago, Black Sails said:

There are not so many people from North America here. Especially from Canada.... especially from Quebec....playing EU prime....mb it was me.. did you check it?

What made you believe that the french Canadians are different from the rest? Do you have experience or just wrote it cuz on this forum racist judgments are not punished?

because i talked with the guy on TS together with rizos? and he said about himself quite some info? and maybe because i spoke with you on TS as well eventho you might not remember it? ;) and yes, i had experience with several french canadian guys, thats why i try to avoid them (not implying every french canadian is bad, but there are prejudices for reason)

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36 minutes ago, Black Sails said:

There are not so many people from North America here. Especially from Canada.... especially from Quebec....playing EU prime....mb it was me.. did you check it?

 

 

What made you believe that the french Canadians are different from the rest? Do you have experience or just wrote it cuz on this forum racist judgments are not punished?

 

On 4.05.2018 at 7:37 PM, Rizos said:

his 2nd char has nick HapIoReturns

 

On 4.05.2018 at 7:37 PM, Rizos said:

Similar nick and similar items, suspicious right?

I never siad its 100% him, just that its suspicious and there is chance chance that its him, stop being sarcastic.

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1 hour ago, MoDoy said:

what is wrong on saying prejudices?

Idk maybe read definition of the word "prejudices" and decide your self: prejudice -  an unfair and unreasonable opinion or feeling, especially when formed without enough thought or knowledge.

1 hour ago, MoDoy said:

 if you get mad about some random saying something about you, you just show up you somehow believe in his words, otherwise you wouldnt bat an eye about it ;)

First of all  it wasn't about me. Second, I didn't get mad. I just said that racial prejudgments in public are not acceptable and shouldn't be tolerated in normal community  but since you so immature that you even don't understand it,  it's ok.

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44 minutes ago, Black Sails said:

Idk maybe read definition of the word "prejudices" and decide your self: prejudice -  an unfair and unreasonable opinion or feeling, especially when formed without enough thought or knowledge.

ok, i am not native speaker, so there is high chance i might have used wrong word (i wanted to use other one, but i couldnt get it even in slovak so i couldnt translate it), but lets see what we have here

you took definition of "prejudices" from third link in google, just so it suits your own definition of the word itself, in which they use word "unreasonable" in every single explanation

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now lets see about other 2 links what they have to say
wikipedia.org - Prejudice is an affective feeling towards a person or group member based solely on that person's group membership.
dictionary.com - an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.

and lets see exactly this example - we meet canadian guy and we find out he is french canadian. now considering my previous experience with french canadians, i formed opinion towards that group of people, and eventho i dont have knowledge about this guy, i still connected my opinion about the group he comes from with him. what i did there - without knowledge of the guy, i made unfavorable feeling towards the guy.

honestly, i dont even see other possible way how to use this word, not saying i am correct, thats how i understand it.

55 minutes ago, Black Sails said:

First of all  it wasn't about me. Second, I didn't get mad. I just said that racial prejudgments in public are not acceptable and shouldn't be tolerated in normal community  but since you so immature that you even don't understand it,  it's ok.

and just so i can be ass to someone who actually lives in country which main language is english, you should know that term "french canadian" doesnt refer to race, so thinking what i say here is "racial prejudgments" isnt correct ;) ps: i forgot we are in 2k18 and ppl are pussies about being offended and think that offending people is not socially acceptable, i see you prefer people judging silently rather than saying things to their faces, cool, cool

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3 hours ago, Black Sails said:

I'm not a French Canadian, although I live here but I thought you were over 13yo. Because adults usually do not express their personal racial prejudices publicly . Agree, to judge people by their nationality is somehow wrong.  It's like I would say that all people from the Czech republic are hookers or sons of a b...s  just cuz vast majority of porno come from this place. Sounds not so good right?

ha ha, you obviously haven't heard about something called the third reich and about something called world war 2. Hell, even today most far right parties base their whole political agenda and beliefs on racial prejudice.

Actually now that I think about it, many far left parties and media outlets do it as well. It's as common as a bag of tea in the United Kingdom.

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Normal, not first scam, not last. Just sad that u have service which doesn't work not because they cannot, but because they were too slow. 3 h passed after he did it, and staff reported after 3 days with excuse of traded burned bla bla bla.

Fuking pokemon cu*t. @HapIo

On 5/4/2018 at 9:15 PM, blackmarket said:

makes sense, @HapIo returning had no idea we got service to investigate scammers, coz he left back in 1.0 :D he said he missed l2 dramas so here he have it :D

ps i still think it was Progressive

Im on next level, when i scam, nobody knows ;)

@elfyyy How is your kaim vanul bones? :D:D:DxD 

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7 hours ago, Black Sails said:

Idk maybe read definition of the word "prejudices" and decide your self: prejudice -  an unfair and unreasonable opinion or feeling, especially when formed without enough thought or knowledge.

First of all  it wasn't about me. Second, I didn't get mad. I just said that racial prejudgments in public are not acceptable and shouldn't be tolerated in normal community  but since you so immature that you even don't understand it,  it's ok.

SHow me please where in this topic someone said smth about color of skin or other race differences.

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9 hours ago, MoDoy said:

 i am not native speaker,

now lets see about other 2 links what they have to say
wikipedia.org -
dictionary.com -

:DYou compare a piece of stone near your house with the Milky Way galaxyIf you plan to improve your English you need to know what is a reliable source of information. The dictionary of the Cambridge University is not even close to Wikipedia  and their definitions can not even be compared.

7 hours ago, SemenArsonist said:

ha ha, you obviously haven't heard about something called the third reich and about something called world war 2. Hell, even today most far right parties base their whole political agenda and beliefs on racial prejudice.

Actually now that I think about it, many far left parties and media outlets do it as well. It's as common as a bag of tea in the United Kingdom.

I've heard about many terrible things but it doesn't make them good or even acceptable.

9 hours ago, MoDoy said:

you should know that term "french canadian" doesnt refer to race, so thinking what i say here is "racial prejudgments" isnt correct ;)

And again, you and Rizo are wrong. Check definition of the race prejudice but use reliable sources. Here you are a one of the sources considered trustworthy "Merriam-webster dictionary"   Race prejudice is  prejudice against or hostility toward people of another race or color or of an alien culture(!). French Canadians is a group of people with their own culture.  Negative pre-judgment of people based on their cultural background is racism.;) But it's ok... you people in Europe so far from it...

Anyways, fighting against "forum warriors" is useless I guess, so good luck!

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43 minutes ago, Black Sails said:

:DYou compare a piece of stone near your house with the Milky Way galaxyIf you plan to improve your English you need to know what is a reliable source of information. The dictionary of the Cambridge University is not even close to Wikipedia  and their definitions can not even be compared.

I've heard about many terrible things but it doesn't make them good or even acceptable.

And again, you and Rizo are wrong. Check definition of the race prejudice but use reliable sources. Here you are a one of the sources considered trustworthy "Merriam-webster dictionary"   Race prejudice is  prejudice against or hostility toward people of another race or color or of an alien culture(!). French Canadians is a group of people with their own culture.  Negative pre-judgment of people based on their cultural background is racism.;) But it's ok... you people in Europe so far from it...

Anyways, fighting against "forum warriors" is useless I guess, so good luck!

Its race prejudice not racism, you small brained boi, and modoy ment stereotype probably, 

Mby if we continue this conversation ull gonna call me racist cos i called scammer the guy who scammed my cp items and is from different country than me? Hilarious, typical brainwashed guy :D

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2 hours ago, Black Sails said:

:DYou compare a piece of stone near your house with the Milky Way galaxyIf you plan to improve your English you need to know what is a reliable source of information. The dictionary of the Cambridge University is not even close to Wikipedia  and their definitions can not even be compared.

still i dont see how opinion can be unreasonable, as you usually base it on something, thus i still dont think i used the word fully wrong.

also lets see evolution of your words in this topic

15 hours ago, Black Sails said:

What made you believe that the french Canadians are different from the rest? Do you have experience or just wrote it cuz on this forum racist judgments are not punished?

13 hours ago, Black Sails said:

First of all  it wasn't about me. Second, I didn't get mad. I just said that racial prejudgments in public are not acceptable and shouldn't be tolerated in normal community  but since you so immature that you even don't understand it,  it's ok.

2 hours ago, Black Sails said:

And again, you and Rizo are wrong. Check definition of the race prejudice but use reliable sources. Here you are a one of the sources considered trustworthy "Merriam-webster dictionary"   Race prejudice is  prejudice against or hostility toward people of another race or color or of an alien culture(!). French Canadians is a group of people with their own culture.  Negative pre-judgment of people based on their cultural background is racism.;) But it's ok... you people in Europe so far from it..

let me take your tip for learning more vocabulary from reliable source as cambridge dictionary ^_^

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/racism

- the belief that some races are better than others, or the unfair treatment of someone because of his or her race

sorry, i dont see anything about negative judgment of people based on their CULTURAL BACKGROUND, so no, i am not racist (as you said in your first reply that racist judgments are not punished which implied my opinion is racist)

ps: i meant to use word "stereotype" as rizos said, but i told you i couldnt even think of the word in slovak language, so i said it like that, its hard to believe you actually didnt grasp the idea behind my words and you really misinterpreted them ;)

 

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