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​xp/sp is x50 on beta

looking for people to play on that other server until we have news here. if you want to group up send me a pm here

​I knows only Open beta 1.0 (22.05.2015) : http://lineage2classic.com/forum/index.php?/topic/230-classic-10-open-beta/ And Open beta 2.0 (17.07.2015) : http://lineage2classic.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1591-classic-10-open-beta-20/ Since first it was 3 month ago maybe there had another beta but not on this website. ​Well its beta 2.0, so obviously there was a 1.0 this beta has eben running for waaaayyyy more than 3 months

​You can purchase PK scroll Nograde/D/C/B at Black Judge (old Sin Eater quest) near Hardin's Private Academy. ​Oh kk

​3 months yes, but thats only beta 2.0. you forget beta 1.0 lol.

​PK scrolls are for lvl 61-75 tho. atleast from what i saw in CH.

​not sure how many pk points it is in classic, there is also no sin eater quest atm.

​5+ PK points pvp/pk dont increase your chance to drop items when you die on mobs. only with karma with 5+ pk. People said youre wrong because you said pvp points

​were talking about months/year for patches.

​Oh so classic doesn't mean we are locked in at "classic" (pre-C1) forever? We are following KR Classic as it progresses? Can we have official word on this matter stating that we are not locked into "classic" (pre-C1) and at most C1/C2, but instead going all the way to GoD? ​Classic means ''classic l2'' oldschool, the old game going up the patches, so yes, we will eventually get there. classic is not just pre-c1, there are skills and mechanics in clsssic that were not in c1 and less, so its not exactly the same, but the progress is the same, more and more map areas + contents. ​Any will we have the 2nd class change quest also? Why aren't we beta testing those instead of offering it in Giran @ cat/TP? ​Yes, second class quest + second class books to farm. the reason is, second class quests was bugged when beta started so they put it at cat so people can keep lvling up, and they put books on cat too because people dont want to farm for days for 1 book only for beta.

and also farm for SB, no shop like in beta

​I'm pretty sure someone is doing that for both. I watched this page for about an hour last night and I watched the "no" vote jump up by about 50 lol. I was ticking up in increments of 5 to 10 each time i refreshed. I am pretty sure the admins know that this is going on because they can see the IPs. Besides, votes don't matter. They are not going to change this fundamental part of the "Classic" server because a few people crying about it. ​Wellp, that was also me Keep insulting each other couse you are getting massively trolled Troll Army wins ​Cant be, i heard polls on internet are always legit!

​I dont think you can kill shops in giran in classic. ​Yeah same, pretty sure that's going to be impossible, it only happened for a little time on retail but it was patched pretty fast, doubt they would make the same mistake on classic haha

​Classic is not for casuals, if they would remove this, a lot of people would quit, because we want to play classic, not some shitty easy x20 h5 server. God i hate people who join a server and then try to change everything because its too hard for them.. This is a CLASSIC server, CLASSIC = drop items when you die on mobs, so if you cant handle it WHY did you even come here!??!?! i repeat... CLASSIC IS NOT FOR CASUAL NOOBS. ​Preach it! I was on retail from beta-C4. When the original dev team left ncsoft, the game began to change for the worse and cater to the carebear crowd. We are starting to see a shift in the industry away from the carebear games that so many casuals enjoy. Games like the upcoming "Camelot Unchained" and the ever classic, "EvE Online"(a hardcore pvp game that has refused to change to cater to the carebear community and had continued to thrive and grow in subscriptions) to name a few; offer a hard core style with definitive loss and severe consequence for each action the player takes. I find it refreshing that the gaming industry is seeing a need for hardcore games with severe consequences for the actions that the gamer takes and a definitive cause and effect style of game play that forces the player to think through their actions and not mindlessly breeze through the game. Classic L2 offered this style of game play but it was unfortunately lost over time through poor choices by NCSoft and their dev team. Thankfully, we have servers like this one that wish to bring back the "hardcore" style that so many of the old school gamers long for. If people don't like hardcore Lineage then they should just play a good low-rate interlude server. So true, iI've always loved that side of L2, that's why i'm really into classic, because classic is where the challenge is at. i've always played diablo 2 and diablo 3 on HC mode, because i don't see the point in playing a game the easy way, it's just no fun at all. Knowing you could lose something you've worked hard for with just 1 death is what makes the game exciting and worth playing. That feeling you get when you're low hp, that's what games are for, not some stupid easy mode 24/7 grind with no challenges, no penalties, no consequences. I have faith the admins won't listen to the morons coming to a classic server forum asking to change one of the biggest core mechanic of classic servers.. That's like joining a x25 H5 server and asking the GM's to change it to interlude patch.. If you want interlude, join an interlude server, if u want h5, join h5, if u want classic, join classic. but don't join 1 and ask for something else. There are 1247523745237234 private servers out there, if you can't handle this one go find another that's easy enough for you Thanks god you're here Gelthias, reading this thread i was starting to believe this server was going to be filled with only a bunch of scared carebears. Good to see there are some people who knows what classic is. Finally done with your inaproppiate language? Opinions are opinions, and don't act like a little child, and call players morrons or such, cause you're disliking their suggestions/opinions. This was just concerning me, because I would like to have a heavy populated server, without future Rage Quiters. But i'm done with this Poll, getting tired of people flaming to another, just because they're disliking their suggestions/opinions. ​Done crying when im not even talking to you? getting tired of noobs like you who want everything easy. Just go play some x1000000000 rates private server, classic clearly isnt for you.

​Classic is not for casuals, if they would remove this, a lot of people would quit, because we want to play classic, not some shitty easy x20 h5 server. God i hate people who join a server and then try to change everything because its too hard for them.. This is a CLASSIC server, CLASSIC = drop items when you die on mobs, so if you cant handle it WHY did you even come here!??!?! i repeat... CLASSIC IS NOT FOR CASUAL NOOBS. ​Preach it! I was on retail from beta-C4. When the original dev team left ncsoft, the game began to change for the worse and cater to the carebear crowd. We are starting to see a shift in the industry away from the carebear games that so many casuals enjoy. Games like the upcoming "Camelot Unchained" and the ever classic, "EvE Online"(a hardcore pvp game that has refused to change to cater to the carebear community and had continued to thrive and grow in subscriptions) to name a few; offer a hard core style with definitive loss and severe consequence for each action the player takes. I find it refreshing that the gaming industry is seeing a need for hardcore games with severe consequences for the actions that the gamer takes and a definitive cause and effect style of game play that forces the player to think through their actions and not mindlessly breeze through the game. Classic L2 offered this style of game play but it was unfortunately lost over time through poor choices by NCSoft and their dev team. Thankfully, we have servers like this one that wish to bring back the "hardcore" style that so many of the old school gamers long for. If people don't like hardcore Lineage then they should just play a good low-rate interlude server. So true, iI've always loved that side of L2, that's why i'm really into classic, because classic is where the challenge is at. i've always played diablo 2 and diablo 3 on HC mode, because i don't see the point in playing a game the easy way, it's just no fun at all. Knowing you could lose something you've worked hard for with just 1 death is what makes the game exciting and worth playing. That feeling you get when you're low hp, that's what games are for, not some stupid easy mode 24/7 grind with no challenges, no penalties, no consequences. I have faith the admins won't listen to the morons coming to a classic server forum asking to change one of the biggest core mechanic of classic servers.. That's like joining a x25 H5 server and asking the GM's to change it to interlude patch.. If you want interlude, join an interlude server, if u want h5, join h5, if u want classic, join classic. but don't join 1 and ask for something else. There are 1247523745237234 private servers out there, if you can't handle this one go find another that's easy enough for you Thanks god you're here Gelthias, reading this thread i was starting to believe this server was going to be filled with only a bunch of scared carebears. Good to see there are some people who knows what classic is.

The admin here have shown they are not idiots, so it will not be removed. Lineage2classic.com, the name says it! Now i hope we get an announcement for the live date soooooon

​Classic is not for casuals, if they would remove this, a lot of people would quit, because we want to play classic, not some shitty easy x20 h5 server. God i hate people who join a server and then try to change everything because its too hard for them.. This is a CLASSIC server, CLASSIC = drop items when you die on mobs, so if you cant handle it WHY did you even come here!??!?! i repeat... CLASSIC IS NOT FOR CASUAL NOOBS. ​I agree with you that we should not make any changes to classic since then its not going to be classic but telling 60% of players to leave is not good idea dont you want some mass during pvp? I also think that future updates will remove this feature anyways. Seems like they keep adding more & more stuff to "L2 Classic" so I would not be surprised if they fix this as well but only time will tell. Also removing this feature is not as easy as fixing 1 line of code and would delay going live by at least a week since it would have to be tested etc... I'd rather see server go live SOON! the poll doesnt mean shit. not everyone will see this poll and come vote, a lot of people only check forum on general discussion or news to see if there is GM post about launch, they dont care about reports or suggestions. if they remove this option, a lot more people will quit, because this is the main challenge of classic, its the REAL l2, not the goddamn casual L2 for noobs. Remove this and what do we have left? lil casual noobs can ks your mobs without any penalty, if you want to punish them you will have to pk them, get red and risk dropping, so you're punishing yourself too. but with this? if some1 is being a little dumbass you can make him die to mobs and they risk dropping items. The people who want this removed are the casuals who likes to be little dicks on forums or in chat but never flags *cough* HeartBreakers clan *cough* ​Dude I dont care If It Is going to be removed or not but you are just annoying lol You dont have to repeat yourself over and over again calling the community noobs. ​Don't be mad because you're a casual. you can rage quit and go back to your x1000000 rate priv server after you drop your no grade. Don't worry, idiots always trying to change everything in this game to be easier are annoying too. its cry babies like this who killed this game on retail and made it super easy mode. PS: My CP can offer you protection for adena if you guys are too scared to leave town ​I'm playing this game since c2 and played over 4 years in retail servers. (mostly Lionna before the merge in old chronicles) You dont have anything to teach me and you dont any right to insult me like that for no reason. ​Cool story, i play since beta for over 10 years, mostly on lionna too before franz open and my CP owned the server (EternalRage clan), then vVv clan, BBW and Star clan when BBW broke up because TrueLies was a fucking noob leader. And i didnt insult you, i said you were a casual if you were scared of this feature.

​Classic is not for casuals, if they would remove this, a lot of people would quit, because we want to play classic, not some shitty easy x20 h5 server. God i hate people who join a server and then try to change everything because its too hard for them.. This is a CLASSIC server, CLASSIC = drop items when you die on mobs, so if you cant handle it WHY did you even come here!??!?! i repeat... CLASSIC IS NOT FOR CASUAL NOOBS. ​I agree with you that we should not make any changes to classic since then its not going to be classic but telling 60% of players to leave is not good idea dont you want some mass during pvp? I also think that future updates will remove this feature anyways. Seems like they keep adding more & more stuff to "L2 Classic" so I would not be surprised if they fix this as well but only time will tell. Also removing this feature is not as easy as fixing 1 line of code and would delay going live by at least a week since it would have to be tested etc... I'd rather see server go live SOON! the poll doesnt mean shit. not everyone will see this poll and come vote, a lot of people only check forum on general discussion or news to see if there is GM post about launch, they dont care about reports or suggestions. if they remove this option, a lot more people will quit, because this is the main challenge of classic, its the REAL l2, not the goddamn casual L2 for noobs. Remove this and what do we have left? lil casual noobs can ks your mobs without any penalty, if you want to punish them you will have to pk them, get red and risk dropping, so you're punishing yourself too. but with this? if some1 is being a little dumbass you can make him die to mobs and they risk dropping items. The people who want this removed are the casuals who likes to be little dicks on forums or in chat but never flags *cough* HeartBreakers clan *cough* ​Dude I dont care If It Is going to be removed or not but you are just annoying lol You dont have to repeat yourself over and over again calling the community noobs. ​Don't be mad because you're a casual. you can rage quit and go back to your x1000000 rate priv server after you drop your no grade. Don't worry, idiots always trying to change everything in this game to be easier are annoying too. its cry babies like this who killed this game on retail and made it super easy mode. PS: My CP can offer you protection for adena if you guys are too scared to leave town

​Classic is not for casuals, if they would remove this, a lot of people would quit, because we want to play classic, not some shitty easy x20 h5 server. God i hate people who join a server and then try to change everything because its too hard for them.. This is a CLASSIC server, CLASSIC = drop items when you die on mobs, so if you cant handle it WHY did you even come here!??!?! i repeat... CLASSIC IS NOT FOR CASUAL NOOBS. ​I agree with you that we should not make any changes to classic since then its not going to be classic but telling 60% of players to leave is not good idea dont you want some mass during pvp? I also think that future updates will remove this feature anyways. Seems like they keep adding more & more stuff to "L2 Classic" so I would not be surprised if they fix this as well but only time will tell. Also removing this feature is not as easy as fixing 1 line of code and would delay going live by at least a week since it would have to be tested etc... I'd rather see server go live SOON! the poll doesnt mean shit. not everyone will see this poll and come vote, a lot of people only check forum on general discussion or news to see if there is GM post about launch, they dont care about reports or suggestions. if they remove this option, a lot more people will quit, because this is the main challenge of classic, its the REAL l2, not the goddamn casual L2 for noobs. Remove this and what do we have left? lil casual noobs can ks your mobs without any penalty, if you want to punish them you will have to pk them, get red and risk dropping, so you're punishing yourself too. but with this? if some1 is being a little dumbass you can make him die to mobs and they risk dropping items. The people who want this removed are the casuals who likes to be little dicks on forums or in chat but never flags *cough* HeartBreakers clan *cough*

​Classic is not for casuals, if they would remove this, a lot of people would quit, because we want to play classic, not some shitty easy x20 h5 server. God i hate people who join a server and then try to change everything because its too hard for them.. This is a CLASSIC server, CLASSIC = drop items when you die on mobs, so if you cant handle it WHY did you even come here!??!?! i repeat... CLASSIC IS NOT FOR CASUAL NOOBS.

​There is not a lot of change from retail classic.. What changes are there? once this goes live it won't be much different really. ​Rates, offline shop, bot protection... rates, only xp rate is different and x3 is pretty much nothing on classic lol. retail already has improved rates so its not really going to be a big difference, offline shops are a must for any private server because as the name says, its a private server, which means its NEVER going to be as popular as a retail server, and we can never know the numbers we will be getting.. So offline shops are a good thing, it doesnt change anything to the gameplay, and it doesnt affect anything. As for bot protection, nobody likes stupid servers flooded with bots, unless its a russian servers, because not a single russian can ever play l2 legit, they know they are all bad at pvp, so their only chance at ever doing something in l2 is by outlvling and outgearing other players for a month or two by boting hardcore, until other players catches up and kick their asses. it's happened on pretty much every single retail server L2 ever had. That being said, none of these changes are as dramatic as a core mechanic of the classic mode like dropping items, so as i said, it won't be much different really.

​There is not a lot of change from retail classic.. What changes are there? once this goes live it won't be much different really.

​Nah. if you can't handle it just don't play classic. that's part of why classic is fun, stop trying to ruin it for everyone just because you're scared.

​Retail and classic are 2 different worlds

​Hahaha or when they opened catacombs, holy shit that was a train fest with daggers on all the chinese farmers hahaha Or when you enter in Classic, farm for 11 months to craft a B weapon and then dropping It your weapon just because a retard came with a train and then you'll emo quitt. ​You guys are fcking blinded by nostalgia. Dropping items Is one of the fcking worst things in L2 and It had to be fixed just because It made most of the players quit the game. One of the most frustating mechanics in the game. We should make a poll about this feature. ​Learn to play then? people didnt rage quit because of this LOL.