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Hello hello all people. I'm testing dagger classes out here and I've found them so unbelievably weak that I think something is dead wrong... I've been looking for Formulas and stuff maybe we got a russian guy who could translate for a reference please? ATM ​ I did testing myself a lot of testing... to be honest. I wanna share finding with you... I was hitting CH NPC at Gludio (So don't know Its exact p.def still)... Dark Elf 52 LVL (41 STR 34 DEX 32 CON) [Critical Dmg Passive +177] I've done 2 tests... 1. Weapon : Dagger (Starting No gr 5 p.atk 5 m.atk) [Character p.atk 60] Normal Hit - 9 - 10 dmg . Crit = 47-48 dmgNormal Hit [with ss] 18-20 dmg. Crit [with ss] 65-68 dmg. Normal critical hit [Vicious stance] = 88-90 dmg. Normal critical hit [Vicious stance] +[ss] = 108-109 dmg. ================================================ SKILL DMG. Death Blow 497-525 ; Back Stab 493-525 (critical skill 1015 dmg) Death Blow +[ss] 749-800 ; Back Stab +[ss] 744-781 (critical skill 1495 dmg) Death Blow [Vicious stance] 747-774 ; Back Stab [Vicious stance] 751-779 (critical skill 1540 dmg) Death Blow [Vicious stance] +[ss] 1005-1054 ; Back Stab [Vicious stance] +[ss] 997-1021 2. Weapon : Crystal Dagger (TopC gr 136 p.atk 83 m.atk) Normal hit 57-61. Crit = 135-141 Normal Hit [with ss] = 112-121 dmg. Crit [with ss] 237-253 Normal critical hit [Vicious stance] = 174-180 Normal critical hit [Vicious stance] +[ss] = 279-291 ================================================ SKILL DMG. Death Blow 535-570 ; Back Stab 535-569 Death Blow + [ss] 831-868 ; Back Stab +[ss] 843-908 Death Blow [Vicious stance] 795-819 ; Back Stab [Vicious stance] 794-826 Death Blow [Vicious stance] + [ss] 1096-1150 ; Back Stab [Vicious stance] + [ss] 1106-1166 (critical skill 2245 dmg) I just don't know why can't kill dark blue monsters x1 with 1 shot of back stab... Is monsters p.def that strong? Or rly daggers used to be that lame?