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This is priceless and epic.

​Dude seriously... I dont mean to be rude or anything but if you are complaining about things being gone on x25 server which is in BETA (on every healthy server or service everything on BETA gets wiped every once in awhile, its not permanent). What are you going to do when on x3 it will take you weeks to get D gear and then drop it to a monster and someone else picks it up? Are you going to make flaming topics that GM should give your items back? You should not have invested hours and hours of playing into BETA test and should only have fun/tested. Before you start playing on a server and invest that much time dont you read forums or news or something to see if its even worth playing? If you did you would find out that it was a BETA test and everything would be wiped. Again I dont mean to be rude, if you did not know I feel sorry for you that you spent that much time and you lost it all but just get over it. Real grind starts when server is x3. Losing 1 day worth items is nothing compared to losing D grade gear or worse weapon to a mob (prepare for that).

​So that means it will be same rates as it is now on RUoff. They increased rates after 1.0 are you going to follow same path then? Have it x3 for 1.0 and then double it?

​You can take it seriously son, server will start on announced date at the announced even if Shilen unleash her wrath upon our servers. @Narmontas: About the bugs, everything is already taken care and all will be working on the last beta before server start. The advertisement plan should start during this week, a separated topic will be created about it with detailed information, so everyone will be able to see whats going on. @fuze: About the premium account it will be announced later on. But at least for now, we do not plan on it giving any extra exp, sp, drop, spoil... In game shop is still kinda under discussion but for now we are not planing on giving any exp,sp,drop,spoil boost for premium account users. About rates, it is x3 based on RU classic. So, 3 times higher then on Ru classic. ​Got it thank you. Is there a limit on repeatable quests where you turn in items and exchange for adena? Will there be a limit on how many times you can complete the quest OR how many items you can exchange for adena?

​What about Spoiler/Crafters? I think there will be too many spoilers with PP or SE boxed.

Question about rates: Is it x3 compared to official rates from ru or x3 in general? Reason I ask is that on RU its already x3 (not quite x3 but almost) since people can use shots while PVE. Is this going to be x3 of that rate or x3 of 1/6 which is 1/2 overall? Basically what I mean is that if its x3 based on RU client it would be 1/2 * 3 which is 3/2 rates, if its x3 based on original rates it would just be 1/2. (Approximation, not sure what the current rate is on RU but I know they increased it) Question about premium: Any news on this? Whats going to be included and/or how much its going to cost?

Welcome! Quick question: What happened to Draqla?

meh, I dont believe it. Its just a way to buy some time. If this was the case you could've posted this in announcements section and kept us updated by at least few words and at least once in few days. So basically what you are saying is this: "We are going to open a new classic project with a partner and going to need again beta test. So f all of you who already beta tested this shit since there was actually no purpose". And here comes the new assembly again :). Whether its true or not in either case I doubt people will believe in this server especially now that 4game has announced that its really happening. GL/HF

There hasnt been an update on the Reports section from Manton or Draqla since August 18th. Vacation maybe? I mean they also need a break.

​He said exact same thing, you just misunderstood, i quote him : "Adena-wise should be the same as offi, since it got increased on offi as well with recent patches." ​My bad

​In Russian classic its not 1/6 anymore since people use soulshots in PVE. They increased adena drop rate I think. I asked similar question with no answer from staff here: http://lineage2classic.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1937-is-it-going-to-be-x3-of-16-rates-or-x3-of-improved-rates/

​you mean Karma (PK count) not pvp right? In that case during clan wars your PVP count goes up and people with 500+ pvp would have close to 100% of losing weapon? That makes no sense. Maybe PK count the higher PK count the higher chance of you dropping something.

​Any updates on that? We were suppose to get announcement in "few days" and its been close to a week. (Dont mean to be an ahole) just give us updates on whether its going to happen this week or next week.

​I dont think you can kill shops in giran in classic.

​+15 dyes? WTF What do you mean by that ​typo, i meant +12. there's no tattoos limit in classic, so u can max a single stat up to +12. ​So you can have +12 str -12 con? or +12 dex -12 con?

"its not a bug its a feature"

I think this thread is overrated. We need to discuss more serious matters like WHEN ARE WE GETTING ANNOUNCEMENT? 10 days left till end of August and we at least need few days in advance announcement to plan things. So how about we move our discussion to that?

​Classic is not for casuals, if they would remove this, a lot of people would quit, because we want to play classic, not some shitty easy x20 h5 server. God i hate people who join a server and then try to change everything because its too hard for them.. This is a CLASSIC server, CLASSIC = drop items when you die on mobs, so if you cant handle it WHY did you even come here!??!?! i repeat... CLASSIC IS NOT FOR CASUAL NOOBS. ​I agree with you that we should not make any changes to classic since then its not going to be classic but telling 60% of players to leave is not good idea dont you want some mass during pvp? I also think that future updates will remove this feature anyways. Seems like they keep adding more & more stuff to "L2 Classic" so I would not be surprised if they fix this as well but only time will tell. Also removing this feature is not as easy as fixing 1 line of code and would delay going live by at least a week since it would have to be tested etc... I'd rather see server go live SOON!

​ok tell me your nick in game and I'll feed on your tears when I keep you stunned forever and grab your no grade equipment(s). Based on the votes so far that's 54% that will leave this game first time they loose some item. I am not saying that I will leave nor I am saying that I want to change anything in game, I am just saying that I'd rather play in populated server & have this feature removed than keep the feature & play with less than half the population. Note that people will leave this game within few weeks regardless of this feature being removed or not, just because they dont know how hardcore classic can get, so whoever remains take 54% out of that and you are left with low populated server. Masson / Pimp / MrsJuly bring it... It's all part of the game...? your butt hurt and it didn't even go live yet. ​ I must say the people that want to remove this concept of the game are the same butt tards that destroyed retail. If you play the game smart you won't die to a mob during solo... Classic is classic because of mechanics of the game like this. This game is not meant to be easy... If keeping this concept in game drives away the emo players then I say goodbye to those people.... It's part of the game and if you don't like it leave it? ​ok tell me your nick in game and I'll feed on your tears when I keep you stunned forever and grab your no grade equipment(s). Based on the votes so far that's 54% that will leave this game first time they loose some item. I am not saying that I will leave nor I am saying that I want to change anything in game, I am just saying that I'd rather play in populated server & have this feature removed than keep the feature & play with less than half the population. Note that people will leave this game within few weeks regardless of this feature being removed or not, just because they dont know how hardcore classic can get, so whoever remains take 54% out of that and you are left with low populated server. Masson / Pimp / MrsJuly bring it... It's all part of the game...? your butt hurt and it didn't even go live yet. ​I am not butt hurt at all and I am not worried about losing any items since I will be playing with group/clan mates. As I stated now its jumped close to 60% of people who will leave so when you will be left in an empty server then you will realize. I will have fun in either case whether people stay or leave. As I said before I dont care if this feature gets removed or stays, what I care about is the population of the server.

​ You cant always be in a group. What if you log in and your clan members/group members are not online. You are forced to solo for some time unless you want to group up with a stranger in which case you kind of have 50/50 chance of that person being a d**k and stunning you while in party or being nice and actually go with you. I guess this part is kind of exciting because there is a risk and like you said people will leave for XP/other reasons within first few weeks and then people will leave due to this feature if they lose an item that it took them a week to get.

​ok tell me your nick in game and I'll feed on your tears when I keep you stunned forever and grab your no grade equipment(s). Based on the votes so far that's 54% that will leave this game first time they loose some item. I am not saying that I will leave nor I am saying that I want to change anything in game, I am just saying that I'd rather play in populated server & have this feature removed than keep the feature & play with less than half the population. Note that people will leave this game within few weeks regardless of this feature being removed or not, just because they dont know how hardcore classic can get, so whoever remains take 54% out of that and you are left with low populated server.

I somewhat agree with this. I understand both sides since some people now talk alot about keeping this feature but when time comes and they actually drop something, I am sure they will either rage quit or complain alot. 10 years ago this might not have been a problem when all of us had plenty of time to play and even if we lost it we could get another one. Now people play casually and whether you are going to say this game is for casual players or not you will be disappointed when you will have 50 hardcore players left on server & 850 casual players that will leave. So I dont mind this feature being removed not only because I dont like it but because it will keep server more populated in the long run. I dont want to invest my time into this and then within few months 80% population disappears and server eventually dies. You want to call those players noobs? They dont know what classic is? They should not play this game? Well guess what? About 80% of the population will be exactly that so think twice. If these people leave the game you will have low populated server and server will die. On a side note, dont forget that you can still drop items from your inventory, since its classic people wont be able to use warehouse that much since it can become expensive, therefore there are many valuable items that will be in inventories like mats or other weapon/armor parts that could drop. I think you should ONLY drop your equipped armor or weapon if you have karma (PK) which makes sense and should not be removed, those who kill players should be punished and should have some type of risk. TLDR; I agree to remove this feature for 2 reasons. One is that I simply dont like it (my opinion) and second it will keep server more populated in the long run.

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​Any updates? Its been 3 days which I think is "few days". Dont mean to be an ahole or asking you to open server tomorrow. Just give us updates every other day at least, or every 2-3 days so we know whats going on. Like Haplo said if there is anything we could do to help during the final days please do let us know that as well.

​Did that warlord have EE or SE? Did he have buff from PP/WC? I mean buffed warlord with SE/EE can kill trains of mobs.