Classic Club Goddard part 2 - patch notes.

[[email protected] 3]

3 hours ago, Astronaut said:

Yes. Necro does get more powerful than all other classes, it you stack all classes equally. Necro has "OP" image because every rich player plays necro with full epics, and all that. That doesn't make every single necro OP. I have a clean Avadon set and BO jewelry. But I am not OP ,right? Just because you want to nerf "few guys", don't f.. ruin the whole class.

But you can't set stacked necro as a baseline, because other than 2-3 KR,Chn necros, there are no geared necros.

What the hell am I going to do with  only transfer pain in PVP, if I do no damage, no burst, no debuff. Just run around?

OTHER THAN TRANSFER PAIN, DEATH SPIKE IS THE ONLY SKILL FOR NECRO. AND YOU WILL NERF THE ONLY SKILL?!

IT HAS NO BURST DAMAGE. ONLY STEADY DAMAGE. 

Don't assume that other necromancers are weak just because you are weak.
Whether strong or weak, neck is the best on equal footing.
Don't you know that the server has been waging war solely with necromancers for years?
We need to increase the archer's attack critical rate as soon as possible and make it more compatible with the Robe character.

[Astronaut 6]

2 hours ago, Sensei said:

Did you know that with Gloom + Dark Vortex, Spike does near double dmg?
Surely, elementals have vortex crushers but no Surrender.

I see your point. I 100% agree with you. It does do double damage. But it is not standing still targets usually. Takes time to debuff them then start nuking. 1. Target will run back. 2. It is much safer to use Gloom + 2 hits instead. Fighting against archers, it is easy. But trying to kill someone with big hp pool is nearly impossible.

 

10 minutes ago, archa said:

'Necro does get more powerful than all other classes, it you stack all classes equally'

does necro more powerful than all other classes if necro and other classes all not full stacked?why you chose necro?you already know the fact and thats 

why only necro in pvp,no elementals

as a mage,necro much tanky than other mages,you still want more dmg than others,whats the point?

anyway,the dmg of necro still high enough after this change and still very tanky,its still the top class,thats no point to make a tank's dmg like titan

I chose necro 8 years ago. Elementals get cool 80 level buffs, Vortex, bigger M. Atk. *Tanky Tanky Tanky* They are nerfing the damage. Why are you even talking about tankiness.

[Astronaut 6]

8 minutes ago, [email protected] said:

Don't assume that other necromancers are weak just because you are weak.
Whether strong or weak, neck is the best on equal footing.
Don't you know that the server has been waging war solely with necromancers for years?
We need to increase the archer's attack critical rate as soon as possible and make it more compatible with the Robe character.

I won't even try to answer you...

[archa 9]

10 minutes ago, Astronaut said:

I see your point. I 100% agree with you. It does do double damage. But it is not standing still targets usually. Takes time to debuff them then start nuking. 1. Target will run back. 2. It is much safer to use Gloom + 2 hits instead. Fighting against archers, it is easy. But trying to kill someone with big hp pool is nearly impossible.

 

I chose necro 8 years ago. Elementals get cool 80 level buffs, Vortex, bigger M. Atk. *Tanky Tanky Tanky* They are nerfing the damage. Why are you even talking about tankiness.

i even dont want to call its nerfing,just same power with elementals.dont you think necro much powerful than other classes?so whats the problem about this change?only reason is you are playing necro?I have top necro too,lv84,full epics,its a brainless class but OP,best for F1 click players,i dont want to drive necro in oly too,too op,just cast debuffs and winning,even necro vs necro,only related to the luck--who can land or resist

your logic is weird,when you compaining elementals have higher dmg,you dont talk about any 'tanky' about elementals,vortex must be landed then you can use blast,not mention the casting speed and reuse time

[Zeperios 20]

5 hours ago, Astronaut said:

Yes. Necro does get more powerful than all other classes, it you stack all classes equally. Necro has "OP" image because every rich player plays necro with full epics, and all that. That doesn't make every single necro OP. I have a clean Avadon set and BO jewelry. But I am not OP ,right? Just because you want to nerf "few guys", don't f.. ruin the whole class.

But you can't set stacked necro as a baseline, because other than 2-3 KR,Chn necros, there are no geared necros.

What the hell am I going to do with  only transfer pain in PVP, if I do no damage, no burst, no debuff. Just run around?

OTHER THAN TRANSFER PAIN, DEATH SPIKE IS THE ONLY SKILL FOR NECRO. AND YOU WILL NERF THE ONLY SKILL?!

IT HAS NO BURST DAMAGE. ONLY STEADY DAMAGE. 

I just dont know how to take this seriously. Death spike is not your only skill. You have vamp claw, gloom, dark vortex, and all your CC. You are the class with almost the MOST buttons to hit besides maybe bishop. Also if you know what you are doing you can easily weave vamp claw in regularly so you should already be using 2 skills.

Yes that is the point of necro you are supposed to be a tanky mage that lives forever with vamp and debuffs while still going GREAT damage. You should NOT be a burst mage. If you want to be go play elemental mage.

"What the hell am I going to do with only transfer pain in PvP"..... easy. LIVE. Go play elemental with your same gear and get 1 shot by hurricane rather than buster.

And I'm sorry necro and almost all mage classes do not have quadratic scaling in this game (orcs do). Its very linear to gear because most of the damage is based off base Matk rather than skill power. So necro is OP at low gears and at high gears. If you have an elemental and necro in same gear 9/10 times the elemental will lose because they have less HP and dont do x2 dmg. I'd love to put you in some tests and show you, but its also easy math.

This nerf is coming because the class as a whole is TOO strong and almost always has been in L2. Admins are taking a stance that they dont think the gap between necro and other mages should be that large.

[archa 9]

this patch seems fun,we are happy you post here before update

there are still some problems

1.FI HB still cant gate,its annoying to run 6-7char to the farm spot,plz change it back for gateable

when i planed to farm chimers for 1h,i have to cost 10mins to run all char inside,almost make me want to give up.and make dont want to do any gank if enemies farming there

 

2.lilith mobs range only 8000 now,its not for aoe farm spot  meanwhile anakim still the best aoe spot,plz figure out what u want from lilith/anakim,aoe spot or normal spot like SV,

 

3.we have FI/GC/lilith/anakim/HB/goddard for solo or small group farming,all these maps are hard for randoms(these only drive 2-3chars players and gears not good),only SV is good for them,but its only good for lv79 max,maybe u should nerf the mobs a bit(the group of mobs seems little hard for randoms),make lilith anakim become 2nd SV could help,nowadays lilith is uncomfortable for both aoe farm players and randoms,randoms are very important for a server,its not bad to make them feel a bit comfortable.

4.consider about the numbers playing here,these maps seems too many and too big,too many empty maps now.idk how u want to deal with this condition.

[Lykra 8]

Agree with FI and HB gate. Please enable. Running characters for 1/5 the time I plan to play in a night isn’t fun.

Please revert Lilith change. I think it’s spawned what, 3 times since you changed it? Dead spot. Either change it back or make mobs social aggro like Anakim.

[Zeperios 20]

On 12/13/2024 at 10:43 AM, San0 said:

We will drop everything on test server, we will give you the chance to mess around while we will also be running more testing in some of the things, and this together with holyday season coming and people spending more time with family and some even have to travel etc we will be sending the patch live right after the holydays.

 

I opened test server and 1) it looks like patch hasnt dropped over there??? 2) It seems like its only Dion server as all characters from TI are not there. Is there a way to have Dion and TI test server when it drops as there are a few differences?