varka farm/ champion/ spoil

[CraftForVodka 4]

I tested spots with spoil - Varka Silenos Warrior, Varka Silenos Medium, Varka Silenos Priest mobs Doesnt resp Varka Champions for 3 hours around. so no chance to spoil EAA

those x5-x7 mobs should be have it, as ketra as i right

and % to spoil  looks strange, Armors key always was more easy to spoil, now its not

Sealed Majestic Robe Fabric

1

1/125

 

Sealed Robe of Nightmare Fabric

1

1/125

 

Sealed Armor of Nightmare Pattern

1

1/175

 

Sealed Majestic Plate Armor Pattern1/175

meanwhile in ketra % to spoil weapons key for group mobs 4-6% top weapon as SOM

Sword of Miracles Edge

1

4%

 Solo mobs  as 

• Ketra Orc Battalion Commander

Tallum Blade Edge

1

5%

Carnage Bow Shaft

1

5%

[CraftForVodka 4]

3 hours farm  = 1 key tallum plate armor spoil for full party.... its cruel

[Koll 1237]

Varka Silenos Medium HP 58,339, x2 less P.Def, 60% less P.Attack, 1min-2min spawn vs Ketra's Commander HP 48,616, x2 P.Def, 60% more P.Attack, 2 Guards ( Each guard have HP 29,170, 50% more P.Def,  26% more P.Attack then Varka Medium ), 40 sec - 3min 20 sec spawn. 

Battalion Commander more P.Def + P.Attack than Ketra's Commander, less spawn overall.

Few min, will form full stat for each mob.

[Koll 1237]

Full information. Lets take Varka Silenos Medium as standard:

Varka Silenos Medium Difficulty: (HP+P.Attack+M.Attack+P.Def+M.Def) = 1+1+1+1+1 = 5 ( ~400 spawns in 1h )
HP 58,339 x1
P.Attack x1
M.Attack x1
P.Def x1
M.Def x1

spawn x10 ( 60sec - 120sec )
MJ robe: 1/125 need x17

Varka Silenos Warrior Difficulty: 0.82+1.68+0.64+1.63+0.81 = 5.58/0.05 = 111.6 - 100 = 11.6% difference ( ~720 spawns per 1h, 80% more spawns ).
HP 48,007 x0.82
P.Attack x1.68
M.Attack x0.64
P.Def x1.63
M.Def x0.81

spawn x18 ( 60sec - 120sec )
MJ Plate 1/175 need x17

Ketra's Commander Difficulty: 0.83+1.57+0.51+1.96+0.97+((0.5+1.3+0.5+0.62+0.89)*2) = 5.84+((3.81)*2) = 5.84+7.62 = 13.46/0.05 = 269,2 - 100 = 169,2% difference ( ~450 spawns per 1h, 12.5% more spawns )
HP 48,616 x0.83
P.Attack x1.57
M.Attack x0.51
P.Def x1.96
M.Def x0.97
2 Guards: HP 29,170 x0.5 / P.Attack x1.3 / M.Attack x0.5 / P.Def x0.62 / M.Def x0.89

spawn x15 ( 40sec - 200 sec )
Som: 4% - Mid A need x32

Ketra Orc Battalion Commander Difficulty: 0.67+1.81+0.52+2.19+0.99 = 6.18/0.05 = 123.6 - 100 = 23.6% difference ( ~180 spawns in 1h,  55% less spawns )
HP 39,359 x0.67
P.Attack x1.81
M.Attack x0.52
P.Def x2.19
M.Def x0.99

spawn x6 ( 40sec - 200 sec )
Tallum Blade: 5% - Low A need x25

[CraftForVodka 4]

3 hours ago, Koll said:

Full information. Lets take Varka Silenos Medium as standard:

Varka Silenos Medium Difficulty: (HP+P.Attack+M.Attack+P.Def+M.Def) = 1+1+1+1+1 = 5 ( ~400 spawns in 1h )
HP 58,339 x1
P.Attack x1
M.Attack x1
P.Def x1
M.Def x1

spawn x10 ( 60sec - 120sec )
MJ robe: 1/125 need x17

Varka Silenos Warrior Difficulty: 0.82+1.68+0.64+1.63+0.81 = 5.58/0.05 = 111.6 - 100 = 11.6% difference ( ~720 spawns per 1h, 80% more spawns ).
HP 48,007 x0.82
P.Attack x1.68
M.Attack x0.64
P.Def x1.63
M.Def x0.81

spawn x18 ( 60sec - 120sec )
MJ Plate 1/175 need x17

Ketra's Commander Difficulty: 0.83+1.57+0.51+1.96+0.97+((0.5+1.3+0.5+0.62+0.89)*2) = 5.84+((3.81)*2) = 5.84+7.62 = 13.46/0.05 = 269,2 - 100 = 169,2% difference ( ~450 spawns per 1h, 12.5% more spawns )
HP 48,616 x0.83
P.Attack x1.57
M.Attack x0.51
P.Def x1.96
M.Def x0.97
2 Guards: HP 29,170 x0.5 / P.Attack x1.3 / M.Attack x0.5 / P.Def x0.62 / M.Def x0.89

spawn x15 ( 40sec - 200 sec )
Som: 4% - Mid A need x32

Ketra Orc Battalion Commander Difficulty: 0.67+1.81+0.52+2.19+0.99 = 6.18/0.05 = 123.6 - 100 = 23.6% difference ( ~180 spawns in 1h,  55% less spawns )
HP 39,359 x0.67
P.Attack x1.81
M.Attack x0.52
P.Def x2.19
M.Def x0.99

spawn x6 ( 40sec - 200 sec )
Tallum Blade: 5% - Low A need x25

got it, accepted
in varka the mobs is weaker, I couldn't see something like that in the informer, it only shows HP and experience
but why not add to Varka Champions there?

[CraftForVodka 4]

As a result, you compare the time it takes to get pieces of armor A and weapons A to one unit to x1 right

1 mob 1+1+1+1+1 = 5 ( ~400 spawns in 1h )

2) 11.6% difference ( ~720 spawns per 1h, 80% more spawns )

3) 169,2% difference ( ~450 spawns per 1h, 12.5% more spawns )  (he just strong p atack p def )

4)  23.6% difference ( ~180 spawns in 1h,  55% less spawns )       ( same strong p atack p def x2 +-)

so its this logic, the time and difficulty of obtaining a craft for 1 time should be the same for weapons and armor

within x2-x3+- time difference/difficult in whole to get it now

So i can compare % drop on top B weapons and % drop, time, difficulty on top B armor 

 

• Platinum Tribe Guardian Shaman HP25,868 lvl 74 hp x6

Blue Wolf Breastplate Part

1

7.69231%

Blue Wolf Gaiter Material

1

11.1111%

• Ancient Gargoyle HP3,992 lvl 69 hp x1

• Blue Wolf Gaiter Material

  1

  1.151%

 Its full drop key, even not a spoil

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Weapon top B expensive full drop

Evil Spirit Head

• Karik HP28,520 x7 lvl 75

• Evil Spirit Head

  1

  1/200

• Soldier of Ancient Times hp HP6,466
•  

  Evil Spirit Head

  1

  1/200

   With demon dagger, aboba the same.
• So time time and difficulty of getting Top B weapons of pieces and armor in toi loa, difference
  7.6% /
• 1/200 = 15 times
• And its have logic armor key should be more easy to get, not the same x1 x1 x1 as weapon key, even if weapon key need more to craft then armor

Edited January 15 by CraftForVodka

[Koll 1237]

On 1/15/2025 at 9:11 AM, CraftForVodka said:

As a result, you compare the time it takes to get pieces of armor A and weapons A to one unit to x1 right

1 mob 1+1+1+1+1 = 5 ( ~400 spawns in 1h )

2) 11.6% difference ( ~720 spawns per 1h, 80% more spawns )

3) 169,2% difference ( ~450 spawns per 1h, 12.5% more spawns )  (he just strong p atack p def )

4)  23.6% difference ( ~180 spawns in 1h,  55% less spawns )       ( same strong p atack p def x2 +-)

so its this logic, the time and difficulty of obtaining a craft for 1 time should be the same for weapons and armor

within x2-x3+- time difference/difficult in whole to get it now

So i can compare % drop on top B weapons and % drop, time, difficulty on top B armor 

 

• Platinum Tribe Guardian Shaman HP25,868 lvl 74 hp x6

Blue Wolf Breastplate Part

1

7.69231%

Blue Wolf Gaiter Material

1

11.1111%

• Ancient Gargoyle HP3,992 lvl 69 hp x1

• Blue Wolf Gaiter Material

  1

  1.151%

 Its full drop key, even not a spoil

=======================================================================================

Weapon top B expensive full drop

Evil Spirit Head

• Karik HP28,520 x7 lvl 75

• Evil Spirit Head

  1

  1/200

• Soldier of Ancient Times hp HP6,466
•  

  Evil Spirit Head

  1

  1/200

   With demon dagger, aboba the same.
• So time time and difficulty of getting Top B weapons of pieces and armor in toi loa, difference
  7.6% /
• 1/200 = 15 times
• And its have logic armor key should be more easy to get, not the same x1 x1 x1 as weapon key, even if weapon key need more to craft then armor

Hello. Finally finished urgent tasks and had time to check. You right about x15 difference ( but it's hard to compair to Karik for example, because it was level buffed few times which also affected his stats because mobs level affects stats calculation ), but what about this: https://l2db.club/?show=npc_info&id=21116&tab=1 , it's shows that inside of a same mob drop difference is x2. At same time Full weapon have same drop chance as Full Armor.

[CraftForVodka 4]

14 hours ago, Koll said:

Hello. Finally finished urgent tasks and had time to check. You right about x15 difference ( but it's hard to compair to Karik for example, because it was level buffed few times which also affected his stats because mobs level affects stats calculation ), but what about this: https://l2db.club/?show=npc_info&id=21116&tab=1 , it's shows that inside of a same mob drop difference is x2. At same time Full weapon have same drop chance as Full Armor.

yes with B top armor have mobs with the same % +- drop key armor/weapon, but have with more xtimes difference

But with A armor/ weapons all equal now, maybe it's for the best, harder to get, more interesting
but what about the champions, the res from these monsters?

 Varka Silenos Warrior, Varka Silenos Medium, Varka Silenos Priest mobs Doesnt resp Varka Champions for 3 hours around.  

[CraftForVodka 4]

Champion mobs:
- Champion monsters will now have increased chance to spawn.

those x5- x7 mobs still doesnt not spawn champions even in Varka spots

Edited Sunday at 02:37 PM by CraftForVodka

[Koll 1237]

7 hours ago, CraftForVodka said:

yes with B top armor have mobs with the same % +- drop key armor/weapon, but have with more xtimes difference

But with A armor/ weapons all equal now, maybe it's for the best, harder to get, more interesting
but what about the champions, the res from these monsters?

 Varka Silenos Warrior, Varka Silenos Medium, Varka Silenos Priest mobs Doesnt resp Varka Champions for 3 hours around.  

1) I will take a look into drop/spoil again a bit later after I finish current tasks.
2) Regarding spawn:
TI Varka Silenos Warrior:

Dion Varka Silenos Warrior:

TI Varka Silenos Medium:

Dion Varka Silenos Medium:

TI Varka Silenos Priest: 

Dion Varka Silenos Priest: 

[CraftForVodka 4]

1 hour ago, Koll said:

1) I will take a look into drop/spoil again a bit later after I finish current tasks.
2) Regarding spawn:
TI Varka Silenos Warrior:

Dion Varka Silenos Warrior:

TI Varka Silenos Medium:

Dion Varka Silenos Medium:

TI Varka Silenos Priest: 

Dion Varka Silenos Priest: 

good job, thanks

[CraftForVodka 4]

On 1/20/2025 at 12:32 AM, Koll said:

1) I will take a look into drop/spoil again a bit later after I finish current tasks.
2) Regarding spawn:
TI Varka Silenos Warrior:

Dion Varka Silenos Warrior:

TI Varka Silenos Medium:

Dion Varka Silenos Medium:

TI Varka Silenos Priest: 

Dion Varka Silenos Priest: 

Still not resping champions on spot, Dion server, cheak it please. i killed 2000 mobs+-  0 champ((

[CraftForVodka 4]

Still not resping champions on  this spot, Dion server, cheak it please. i killed 2000 mobs+-  0 champ, did updated clien a few times.

and spoil from all mobs 1 mj heavy key lol, 2 drop.  nice  1/175% spoilers looks useles still...

but in toi tablet  DROP  5.9%  from easy 75 mobs 5.5kk adena on traders aden

so price for mj heavy armor key should be? from x5-x7 mobs 81 lvl. with x10 times less. 55kk adena?/  x17 key for crtaft need  + 60% create. .(varka 6-9 characters in party + active spoil, toi 3-4 enough +)

you can say /here is high lvl and you exp/ spoil/drop together, but i know many more better way to exp, farm adena instead of varka.

and can just w8 for drop its whole  top A armor from Castle, epic farm auctions. So its ruined varka just with those settings for now.

i remember you wanted to make some change for spoil+ craft instead of waiting of full drop from Raids, its doesnt work strategy still.

its spot doesnt worth time still, even that mobs here more weak, then ketra for example less p def 60%/ p atack /x.1.2- 1.8

p.s

i understand, that you have a many anothers work, its just my observations of a player with a good online and average understanding of the game

 

Edited yesterday at 09:11 AM by CraftForVodka

[Koll 1237]

10 hours ago, CraftForVodka said:

Still not resping champions on  this spot, Dion server, cheak it please. i killed 2000 mobs+-  0 champ, did updated clien a few times.

and spoil from all mobs 1 mj heavy key lol, 2 drop.  nice  1/175% spoilers looks useles still...

but in toi tablet  DROP  5.9%  from easy 75 mobs 5.5kk adena on traders aden

so price for mj heavy armor key should be? from x5-x7 mobs 81 lvl. with x10 times less. 55kk adena?/  x17 key for crtaft need  + 60% create. .(varka 6-9 characters in party + active spoil, toi 3-4 enough +)

you can say /here is high lvl and you exp/ spoil/drop together, but i know many more better way to exp, farm adena instead of varka.

and can just w8 for drop its whole  top A armor from Castle, epic farm auctions. So its ruined varka just with those settings for now.

i remember you wanted to make some change for spoil+ craft instead of waiting of full drop from Raids, its doesnt work strategy still.

its spot doesnt worth time still, even that mobs here more weak, then ketra for example less p def 60%/ p atack /x.1.2- 1.8

p.s

i understand, that you have a many anothers work, its just my observations of a player with a good online and average understanding of the game

 

Hello. Checking Champions with scripter. Can you please give me full drop information. You are focusing on MJ Heavy as I see, but from screen Priest doesn't have drop/Medium have Robes and Warrior have MJ Heavy, so 2000/3 = ~650 if we think that you killed same amount of mobs per type.

[CraftForVodka 4]

• Varka Silenos Warrior

• 	Adena	14298 - 48246	70%
  	Animal Bone	1 - 3	50%
  	Animal Skin	1 - 3	33.3333%
  	Coarse Bone Powder	1	10%
  	Soldier's Badge	1	5%
  	Sealed Dark Crystal Gaiter Pattern	1	2%
  	Ancient Relic	1	1%
  	Sealed Dark Crystal Breastplate Pattern	1	1/150
  	Sealed Tallum Plate Armor Pattern	1	1/200
  	Sealed Armor of Nightmare Pattern	1	1/350
  	Sealed Majestic Plate Armor Pattern	1	1/350
  	Sealed Dark Crystal Gaiters	1	1/3000
  	Sealed Dark Crystal breastplate	1	1/12005
  	Sealed Tallum Plate Armor	1	1/14993
  	Sealed Armor of Nightmare	1	1/34965
  	Sealed Majestic Plate Armor 1 1/34965

  
  

  spoil ===

  Seale

  Iron Ore

  2 - 6

  79.4514%

   

  Silver Nugget

  2

  63.5611%

   

  Sealed Tallum Plate Armor Pattern

  1

  1%

   

  Sealed Armor of Nightmare Pattern

  1

  1/175

  Sealed Majestic Plate Armor Pattern1/175

   

                                                                 

   

[CraftForVodka 4]

Varka silenos medium=

Adena	12304 - 40394	70%  DROP===
	Coal	1	50%
	Oriharukon Ore	1	5.55556%
	Soldier's Badge	1	5%
	Sealed Tallum Stocking Fabric	1	1.25%
	Ancient Relic	1	1%
	Sealed Tallum Tunic Texture	1	1/120
	Sealed Dark Crystal Robe Fabric	1	1/180
	Sealed Majestic Robe Fabric	1	1/250
	Sealed Robe of Nightmare Fabric	1	1/250
	Sealed Tallum Stockings	1	1/3000
	Sealed Tallum Tunic	1	1/12005
	Sealed Dark Crystal Robe	1	1/14993
	Sealed Majestic Robe	1	1/40000
	Sealed Robe of Nightmare	1	1/40000

 

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[CraftForVodka 4]

Spoil (rates x1)

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	Item name	Amount	Chance
	Animal Bone	2 - 14	75.8739%
	Animal Skin	2 - 14	75.8739%
	Coarse Bone Powder	1	60.3496%
	Asofe	1	15.0874%
	Sealed Tallum Stocking Fabric	1	2.5%
	Sealed Tallum Tunic Texture	1	1.6%
	Sealed Dark Crystal Robe Fabric	1	1.1%
	Sealed Majestic Robe Fabric	1	1/125
	Sealed Robe of Nightmare Fabric	1	1/125

[CraftForVodka 4]

55 minutes ago, Koll said:

Hello. Checking Champions with scripter. Can you please give me full drop information. You are focusing on MJ Heavy as I see, but from screen Priest doesn't have drop/Medium have Robes and Warrior have MJ Heavy, so 2000/3 = ~650 if we think that you killed same amount of mobs per type.

yes priest only adena drop, so there only 2 mob with drop spoil and even without champions and bad % to spoil 

Edited 16 hours ago by CraftForVodka