changeclass

[FTMT 0]

Where can I read about this feature? I can't seem to find it. And a poll should be made

[Koll 1230]

that groups just really make no sense, koll, you guys cant put it like that, mage >> archer, nah

on GOD NAserver thay put some service like that, but this service still depends on your race/class, you just coudnt make your mage become a archer, its just not good, pls change, 

​Mages need books, need more money on shots. 

​

Even though I am going to change class, I don't think this was a good idea for the server. And, if it had to happen, I don't think the groups make sense.

 

Mages should all be in 1 category, including summoners. Physical DDs should all be in same category. Dwarves should not be able to change, or be changed into (who tf is going to choose to level a Warsmith now? Might as well level something else and change into it, which makes Warsmith much less rare because you can get high level one easily).

 

Buffer group I think makes sense. I think buffer group should include SWS, though, since they should be difficult to level. People will just raise another class to 49 and then change to SWS now.

 

I think the worst thing about it is the fact that now you can level something easy and change class to something at later level which is usually difficult to level. It's like cheat leveling by $ in a way.

 

Idk, just doesn't seem very authentic. But, if the groups are changed like how I said, I don't mind it so much.

​About sws and bd - they still can exp solo, that PP or SE can't do so quick as they. Summoners can't exp quick after 2nd class, cause of no shots for summons

​​Lets be realistic:
1. 99% of people will not change their class between levels 1-40, only after 2nd profession.
​2. No one levels SWS or BD killing mobs solo, especially when there is a lack of tanks.
​3. Server team should have made a poll asking players if they want such feature. "A lot of people asking for class transfer" is not an argument. This change was made to make more profit out if this server.
​4. If you made that decision, at least you had to put mages and archers into seperate groups. You are comparing leveling sws/bd against pp/se. Try to compare leveling mage with aoe in cruma then dv against leveling archer. You dont even need full party to aoe with mage. Hell, you only need se+acu pot to aoe in cruma with mage.
​5. Getting all skills except those, who need book after class transfer is also a fail. Lets assume I level SE, which is the most demanded and easiest support to level. It doesnt need any rare spellboks to go to level 50+. And after that I can change to OL, which SP demand is absolutely ridiculous. My party more than a month ago had SE 52 and OL 52. OL could barely level his buffs while SE learned everything she needed.

All in all, this server is starting to become pay2win.

​You can't change to OL.

[DickyCheung 1]

I am very happy because all ppls agree with my opinion about changeclass :))  thanks all, we are the customer and the one who donate, so we should have your voice on this, I am a donator also :)) never play any server that has change class service

[San0 2408]

Where can I read about this feature? I can't seem to find it. And a poll should be made

​http://l2classic.club/forum/index.php?/topic/7439-class-change/

[DickyCheung 1]

Where can I read about this feature? I can't seem to find it. And a poll should be made

​http://l2classic.club/forum/index.php?/topic/7439-class-change/

​Thanks SAn0 this is more good for us, nice that you guys still listen to player voice, guys at least my topic can help us

[FTMT 0]

Where can I read about this feature? I can't seem to find it. And a poll should be made

​http://l2classic.club/forum/index.php?/topic/7439-class-change/

​Ty for the link. Guess I'll pass on the class change, I like playing prophet

[eruditas 1]

that groups just really make no sense, koll, you guys cant put it like that, mage >> archer, nah

on GOD NAserver thay put some service like that, but this service still depends on your race/class, you just coudnt make your mage become a archer, its just not good, pls change, 

​Mages need books, need more money on shots. 

​

Even though I am going to change class, I don't think this was a good idea for the server. And, if it had to happen, I don't think the groups make sense.

 

Mages should all be in 1 category, including summoners. Physical DDs should all be in same category. Dwarves should not be able to change, or be changed into (who tf is going to choose to level a Warsmith now? Might as well level something else and change into it, which makes Warsmith much less rare because you can get high level one easily).

 

Buffer group I think makes sense. I think buffer group should include SWS, though, since they should be difficult to level. People will just raise another class to 49 and then change to SWS now.

 

I think the worst thing about it is the fact that now you can level something easy and change class to something at later level which is usually difficult to level. It's like cheat leveling by $ in a way.

 

Idk, just doesn't seem very authentic. But, if the groups are changed like how I said, I don't mind it so much.

​About sws and bd - they still can exp solo, that PP or SE can't do so quick as they. Summoners can't exp quick after 2nd class, cause of no shots for summons

​​Lets be realistic:
1. 99% of people will not change their class between levels 1-40, only after 2nd profession.
​2. No one levels SWS or BD killing mobs solo, especially when there is a lack of tanks.
​3. Server team should have made a poll asking players if they want such feature. "A lot of people asking for class transfer" is not an argument. This change was made to make more profit out if this server.
​4. If you made that decision, at least you had to put mages and archers into seperate groups. You are comparing leveling sws/bd against pp/se. Try to compare leveling mage with aoe in cruma then dv against leveling archer. You dont even need full party to aoe with mage. Hell, you only need se+acu pot to aoe in cruma with mage.
​5. Getting all skills except those, who need book after class transfer is also a fail. Lets assume I level SE, which is the most demanded and easiest support to level. It doesnt need any rare spellboks to go to level 50+. And after that I can change to OL, which SP demand is absolutely ridiculous. My party more than a month ago had SE 52 and OL 52. OL could barely level his buffs while SE learned everything she needed.

All in all, this server is starting to become pay2win.

​You can't change to OL.

​​Yes, you are right. I'm chaing my 5th argument:
​Leveling any tank against leveling SE/WC/PP. With tank you cant go afk, you constantly must pull trains. You need items to be usefull as a tank in all stages of the game. I can level any support to lvl 50+ with devotion and no grade weapon.

So why should I level a tank now, when all I can do is level wc, do buffs for 20min and watch a movie?
 

[vSpecter 12]

1st: Next 3 classes will be deleted from option to change class, so you if you one of this classes you can change class on another, but you can't change class on one of this classes. ( Overlord/Bounty Hunter/Warsmith ).

2nd: DickyCheung char was asking you price, you asked euros for items. That's why you get banned cause of trying to sell items with euros.

 

​1) Good change, these classes are unique enough.

[Trample 62]

once again i think people just makes a fuk ton of mess for something so minimal...
i think most of you are only looking at it from your point of view and not seeing the bigger picture, as na exemple ill give you 3 of my friends who were allways gladiator fans but decided to do something diferente here, they made 2 dagers and a tank, 2 months later they decided they wanted to go back to gladiator and they ended up quiting cus no one wanted to level second char from 0 when they were already level 45+. this is their chance to come back to server and most likely they will since they can just get the chars they had and made them gladiator as they wanted to roll into.

 

second exemple, you are the prophet of a CP that for some reason stops playing and you are left alone, with a damn PP. well now this ppl have the chance to turn that PP char where they invested so much time into something more confurtable for him.

 

third exemple, you are a good player but you have a swordsinger, theres a good CP who you would like to join looking for a bd imnstead of sws, now you can change your char to bd and join that CP and have more fun without having to waste another month making a char from scratch and eventual loosing the CP slot while doing it.

 

and the list goes on and on, try to stand away from the painting and see the bigger picture guys. is not so bad as you guys are making it, i would say its even good and you guys are just not understanding it completely.

 

about the fact you can pay only in euros, nothing against it, this way ppl wont abuse on it and if they do they give Money to server so all fine.

[DickyCheung 1]

Really good change, i will notify my country players in our website topic about your server, so they would not be disspointed

[DickyCheung 1]

once again i think people just makes a fuk ton of mess for something so minimal...
i think most of you are only looking at it from your point of view and not seeing the bigger picture, as na exemple ill give you 3 of my friends who were allways gladiator fans but decided to do something diferente here, they made 2 dagers and a tank, 2 months later they decided they wanted to go back to gladiator and they ended up quiting cus no one wanted to level second char from 0 when they were already level 45+. this is their chance to come back to server and most likely they will since they can just get the chars they had and made them gladiator as they wanted to roll into.

 

second exemple, you are the prophet of a CP that for some reason stops playing and you are left alone, with a damn PP. well now this ppl have the chance to turn that PP char where they invested so much time into something more confurtable for him.

 

third exemple, you are a good player but you have a swordsinger, theres a good CP who you would like to join looking for a bd imnstead of sws, now you can change your char to bd and join that CP and have more fun without having to waste another month making a char from scratch and eventual loosing the CP slot while doing it.

 

and the list goes on and on, try to stand away from the painting and see the bigger picture guys. is not so bad as you guys are making it, i would say its even good and you guys are just not understanding it completely.

 

about the fact you can pay only in euros, nothing against it, this way ppl wont abuse on it and if they do they give Money to server so all fine.

​Now they can change their class, we just have problem with mage and fighter, if u used to play bow lv 5x and mage lv 5x you will know the problem there due to SP to learn skills

[qloc01 207]

once again i think people just makes a fuk ton of mess for something so minimal...
i think most of you are only looking at it from your point of view and not seeing the bigger picture, as na exemple ill give you 3 of my friends who were allways gladiator fans but decided to do something diferente here, they made 2 dagers and a tank, 2 months later they decided they wanted to go back to gladiator and they ended up quiting cus no one wanted to level second char from 0 when they were already level 45+. this is their chance to come back to server and most likely they will since they can just get the chars they had and made them gladiator as they wanted to roll into.

 

second exemple, you are the prophet of a CP that for some reason stops playing and you are left alone, with a damn PP. well now this ppl have the chance to turn that PP char where they invested so much time into something more confurtable for him.

 

third exemple, you are a good player but you have a swordsinger, theres a good CP who you would like to join looking for a bd imnstead of sws, now you can change your char to bd and join that CP and have more fun without having to waste another month making a char from scratch and eventual loosing the CP slot while doing it.

 

and the list goes on and on, try to stand away from the painting and see the bigger picture guys. is not so bad as you guys are making it, i would say its even good and you guys are just not understanding it completely.

 

about the fact you can pay only in euros, nothing against it, this way ppl wont abuse on it and if they do they give Money to server so all fine.

​my argument for your post is just simple: think carefully before picking a class

but nah, you made a good point

[eruditas 1]

once again i think people just makes a fuk ton of mess for something so minimal...
i think most of you are only looking at it from your point of view and not seeing the bigger picture, as na exemple ill give you 3 of my friends who were allways gladiator fans but decided to do something diferente here, they made 2 dagers and a tank, 2 months later they decided they wanted to go back to gladiator and they ended up quiting cus no one wanted to level second char from 0 when they were already level 45+. this is their chance to come back to server and most likely they will since they can just get the chars they had and made them gladiator as they wanted to roll into.

 

second exemple, you are the prophet of a CP that for some reason stops playing and you are left alone, with a damn PP. well now this ppl have the chance to turn that PP char where they invested so much time into something more confurtable for him.

 

third exemple, you are a good player but you have a swordsinger, theres a good CP who you would like to join looking for a bd imnstead of sws, now you can change your char to bd and join that CP and have more fun without having to waste another month making a char from scratch and eventual loosing the CP slot while doing it.

 

and the list goes on and on, try to stand away from the painting and see the bigger picture guys. is not so bad as you guys are making it, i would say its even good and you guys are just not understanding it completely.

 

about the fact you can pay only in euros, nothing against it, this way ppl wont abuse on it and if they do they give Money to server so all fine.

​

once again i think people just makes a fuk ton of mess for something so minimal...
i think most of you are only looking at it from your point of view and not seeing the bigger picture, as na exemple ill give you 3 of my friends who were allways gladiator fans but decided to do something diferente here, they made 2 dagers and a tank, 2 months later they decided they wanted to go back to gladiator and they ended up quiting cus no one wanted to level second char from 0 when they were already level 45+. this is their chance to come back to server and most likely they will since they can just get the chars they had and made them gladiator as they wanted to roll into.

 

second exemple, you are the prophet of a CP that for some reason stops playing and you are left alone, with a damn PP. well now this ppl have the chance to turn that PP char where they invested so much time into something more confurtable for him.

 

third exemple, you are a good player but you have a swordsinger, theres a good CP who you would like to join looking for a bd imnstead of sws, now you can change your char to bd and join that CP and have more fun without having to waste another month making a char from scratch and eventual loosing the CP slot while doing it.

 

and the list goes on and on, try to stand away from the painting and see the bigger picture guys. is not so bad as you guys are making it, i would say its even good and you guys are just not understanding it completely.

 

about the fact you can pay only in euros, nothing against it, this way ppl wont abuse on it and if they do they give Money to server so all fine.

​

once again i think people just makes a fuk ton of mess for something so minimal...
i think most of you are only looking at it from your point of view and not seeing the bigger picture, as na exemple ill give you 3 of my friends who were allways gladiator fans but decided to do something diferente here, they made 2 dagers and a tank, 2 months later they decided they wanted to go back to gladiator and they ended up quiting cus no one wanted to level second char from 0 when they were already level 45+. this is their chance to come back to server and most likely they will since they can just get the chars they had and made them gladiator as they wanted to roll into.

 

second exemple, you are the prophet of a CP that for some reason stops playing and you are left alone, with a damn PP. well now this ppl have the chance to turn that PP char where they invested so much time into something more confurtable for him.

 

third exemple, you are a good player but you have a swordsinger, theres a good CP who you would like to join looking for a bd imnstead of sws, now you can change your char to bd and join that CP and have more fun without having to waste another month making a char from scratch and eventual loosing the CP slot while doing it.

 

and the list goes on and on, try to stand away from the painting and see the bigger picture guys. is not so bad as you guys are making it, i would say its even good and you guys are just not understanding it completely.

 

about the fact you can pay only in euros, nothing against it, this way ppl wont abuse on it and if they do they give Money to server so all fine.

​​You are right. I also agree on changing class only with euros, so it wouldn't be abused. I do agree that lowest Group should be mages, then summoners, then archers, then melees. But then it gets tricky.
​Allthough I am support, I think it is way easier to level one than tank/bd or sws.

My opinion is that highest Group should be tanks/bd+sws followed by support and all the damage dealers in a way I described before.

[Pinko 23]

The reasons for implementing this are stupid. Not knowing about the game is not an excuse to cry for everything - you want to be as close to official as possible then again you make some changes that are clearly for proft - the PK scroll is sold for 500adena in towns. Here it`s donation only - i don`t care that does not have such a big impact on the game  and will make kids think twice b4 goin on a killing spree. Then again if you farm properly you won`t really care if you loose a set part or a weapon after a certain point.
I`m still vouching for the idea we`ll level a char to lvl 40 with both proffesions learned for X (said amount of CoL). It looks like it`ll stay like this so if it stays at least limit it to one class change per character. 

Checked the topic it`s still stupid this way - limit the change to the group you`re in at the moment - for example a buffer will stay a buffer, bd/sws should be able to change to bd/sws summoners shoul be able to change to other summoners , archers should either be able to change to their respective race dagger class or to other archer classes.  Tanks should be able to switch to other tanks, tyrant/destro to other melees and etc. Your groups are not solving the problem by allowing change between groups - again better add - level a char to 40 with 2nd profession for X CoL.

The excuse that someone does not want to play a summoner because they don`t have shots here is ... why the hell did you start that char? I`m wondering why are there summoners on the 1.0 since the day I started and now they`re crying? Come on, grow up and make your decisions more carefully , browsing the trade forum it`s scary enough with the ridiculously low adena amount - people are selling +5,6,7 weapons for 20-80kk - that only shows that there is donation that affects the gameplay and no one wants that. You need to decide if you want to be really as close to retail as possible or you`ll just turn this into a pay2win(play) server. Guess what will happen at/after the first sieges or boss fights ? 

[San0 2408]

The reasons for implementing this are stupid. Not knowing about the game is not an excuse to cry for everything - you want to be as close to official as possible then again you make some changes that are clearly for proft - the PK scroll is sold for 500adena in towns. Here it`s donation only - i don`t care that does not have such a big impact on the game  and will make kids think twice b4 goin on a killing spree. Then again if you farm properly you won`t really care if you loose a set part or a weapon after a certain point.
I`m still vouching for the idea we`ll level a char to lvl 40 with both proffesions learned for X (said amount of CoL). It looks like it`ll stay like this so if it stays at least limit it to one class change per character. 

​pk scrolls are nor for donation only, they can be bought on dark judge as it is on official.

 

[qloc01 207]

The reasons for implementing this are stupid. Not knowing about the game is not an excuse to cry for everything - you want to be as close to official as possible then again you make some changes that are clearly for proft - the PK scroll is sold for 500adena in towns. Here it`s donation only - i don`t care that does not have such a big impact on the game  and will make kids think twice b4 goin on a killing spree. Then again if you farm properly you won`t really care if you loose a set part or a weapon after a certain point.
I`m still vouching for the idea we`ll level a char to lvl 40 with both proffesions learned for X (said amount of CoL). It looks like it`ll stay like this so if it stays at least limit it to one class change per character. 

​wait, dark judge in floran sells pk scroll 9k each for c-grade, youi dont need to donate to get it, we just made 9pk on cruma, nah, it feels so good

[Pinko 23]

The reasons for implementing this are stupid. Not knowing about the game is not an excuse to cry for everything - you want to be as close to official as possible then again you make some changes that are clearly for proft - the PK scroll is sold for 500adena in towns. Here it`s donation only - i don`t care that does not have such a big impact on the game  and will make kids think twice b4 goin on a killing spree. Then again if you farm properly you won`t really care if you loose a set part or a weapon after a certain point.
I`m still vouching for the idea we`ll level a char to lvl 40 with both proffesions learned for X (said amount of CoL). It looks like it`ll stay like this so if it stays at least limit it to one class change per character. 

​pk scrolls are nor for donation only, they can be bought on dark judge as it is on official.

 

Okay we can scratch that still 9k and 500a is quite a difference for the adena drop we have  here but that`s also a strategy to make ppl donate and use the in-game gold sellers . As I said earlier - I do not care much about that If you make PK`s you should be ready for the consequences or pay. TBH i prefer to get the 1.5 update b4 bringing anything like this that was obviously not t​hought of so well.​

[Koll 1230]

The reasons for implementing this are stupid. Not knowing about the game is not an excuse to cry for everything - you want to be as close to official as possible then again you make some changes that are clearly for proft - the PK scroll is sold for 500adena in towns. Here it`s donation only - i don`t care that does not have such a big impact on the game  and will make kids think twice b4 goin on a killing spree. Then again if you farm properly you won`t really care if you loose a set part or a weapon after a certain point.
I`m still vouching for the idea we`ll level a char to lvl 40 with both proffesions learned for X (said amount of CoL). It looks like it`ll stay like this so if it stays at least limit it to one class change per character. 

​pk scrolls are nor for donation only, they can be bought on dark judge as it is on official.

 

Okay we can scratch that still 9k and 500a is quite a difference for the adena drop we have  here but that`s also a strategy to make ppl donate and use the in-game gold sellers . As I said earlier - I do not care much about that If you make PK`s you should be ready for the consequences or pay. TBH i prefer to get the 1.5 update b4 bringing anything like this that was obviously not t​hought of so well.​

​We take price from Classic Ruoff that is x1 and doesn't increase it even based on rates. 

[Pinko 23]

On EU it was 500a - still that`s not the point of the thread. The class change is the thing we`re commenting on here. I`d be happy if you share your thoughts on the matter - limiting class change between groups and making the groups stricter. 

[Koll 1230]

On EU it was 500a - still that`s not the point of the thread. The class change is the thing we`re commenting on here. I`d be happy if you share your thoughts on the matter - limiting class change between groups and making the groups stricter. 

​I don't actually understand your position with p2win server.

[Synextasia 1]

LOL, awesome classic feature, class change... What's next? 50€ for lvl 70 character??

 

What a joke of a server...

[Koll 1230]

LOL, awesome classic feature, class change... What's next? 50€ for lvl 70 character??

 

What a joke of a server...

​Your post doesn't have any info in it.

[qloc01 207]

stricter woul be better, less profit but more sanity and more stablity for server, just your choice, server's staff

i know you are trying to make more comfortable for those player choose support class to play, espeacilly who got left behind by their cp/clan and they just had to leave as well since they didnt know to do anymore and literrally they couldnt go solo farmming

but this matter is so huge, its worth all discussions going around here

[Pinko 23]

The idea is that someone cried and you`re adding a feature that is normally not available in the game - the pay2win is regarding the CoL, adena traders ingame and etc. If you open the trade section you`ll see offers for  from 20 to 80kk and that is a 2 months old (or 3) server with x3 rates and absurdly low adena drop amount. The decision that ppl/new user will come to is that if you pay you`ll have everything and you`ll win. After the 1st siege or a bigger world boss when 1 party of ppl with glowing weapons shows up it`ll ruin it for everyone. The way for people to make more adena by paying affects the balance simply because if someone that does not donate will have to do it hadcore as you want the server to be - no shots, lots of rest, slow leveling, no money for gear. Then again if he donates he`ll have money for shots, will level up faster, will have money for items and in general. This will be an unfair advantage, actually this is an unfair advantage. If something could be done it should`ve been postponing the donation system for a month or two or making CoL untradable for the first 3 months or so. 

Still you can`t do anything about that now. You can however take your time and implement the class change in the best way possible. And for me there is only 1 way that i explained earlier. I`ll do it again if needed.

[Synextasia 1]

LOL, awesome classic feature, class change... What's next? 50€ for lvl 70 character??

 

What a joke of a server...

​Your post doesn't have any info in it.

​But it has the most important thing of all time: sarcasm.