Debuffs

[SOiL]

Hey tell your opinion about debuffs. Necros fear silence anchor, stuns even my LS. Everything landing so easily

[Phoenix]

This is Classic. It is as it should be. Why create one more stupid topic?

[TaraMora]

OMG another vote? This is the game as it is why all the voting? 

[SOiL]

So you telling me that in normal classic you can paralyze a raid boss?

[MamaPomogiMne]

make ur own server!! great idea! 

[Phoenix]

So you telling me that in normal classic you can paralyze a raid boss?

This is a separate problem. Her needs to be discussed with the admin. But do not create unnecessary polling.

[SOiL]

Hm the debuffs should be like that? Land every skill you use? Even warriors on lionheart getting 6/6 sleeps anchor paralyzes etc. That's not normal

[Phoenix]

Hm the debuffs should be like that? Land every skill you use? Even warriors on lionheart getting 6/6 sleeps anchor paralyzes etc. That's not normal

​All claims send Koreans. 

[Osito2Dancer]

Innate (non-buffed) debuff resistance in Classic is like that, depends more on level difference than resistances per se. If you are 50, all 50+ debuffs will land almost 100%, and all 50- will miss frequently. There is nothing to fix (IIRC)

[qloc01]

your tears is delicous, lordeson =))

[SOiL]

I love how you dying jerry =) But i'm not here just for you. I know it's about lvl difference. But i'm talking about same lvls and wanted to hear opinions that's why it says general discussion

[Phoenix]

Innate (non-buffed) debuff resistance in Classic is like that, depends more on level difference than resistances per se. If you are 50, all 50+ debuffs will land almost 100%, and all 50- will miss frequently. There is nothing to fix (IIRC)

​Exactly.

[Karito]

So... nerf LS,too.LS Cooldown, cast time, success almost 97% while your lvl lower 2-3lvl  than enemy? 

Stupid topic. =…=

[qloc01]

im not jerry =))

[HellHound]

Anchor 99% !!! nerf the shit... not comparable with stun chance and mage can kill you 5x faster than fighter... thats damn unblaance..

[Rinzler]

In my opinion, NEVER, NEVER can cogitate on a server NERF any feature. This was, is and will be the reason for the closure of many servers.
What has to be done it consists of a careful analysis of debuffs and compare the results with a reliable and adequate database with chronic move on the server. In case there is any irregularity, correct it.
There has never been a chronic in Lineage 2 that reached 100% approval by the players and I believe that will never exist. I disagree with many features that I look at the Classic, but I believe it is the best Lineage 2 existing platform.
I would like to share some thoughts that I thought made interesting by a known player (DVP) about Lineage 2 Classic and even agreeing with him on some points, disagree with some corrective measures such as basic char status changes.

Hello, guys.
I am "dvp" - old Lineage 2 C1-C5 player.
Also I have been playing RU Classic La2 Server for 8 monthes, and I am playing here nowadays.
But, in general, what i want to say - Classic it's just the best thing that happened with Lineage 2 after Interlude.
But there are some serious troubles. People who didn't played Classic on high levels (60+) couldn't imagine some of them.
I spent a lot of time thinking about main problems and ways to solve them.
Here is short list.

1. AN INSANE DROP WHEN YOU ARE KILLED BY THE MOB
- The chances of drop like from PK in old chronicles – it is not normal.
- The people are afraid of PVP because of losing their items after killing by the mob.
- The new players often leave the server after losing their weapon.
- The people are forced to use the second window for “Force Relog”.
- Permanent “undressing” during solo game or game in squad of mini parties.
SOLUTION: Remove drop of equipped items.

2. THE ATTRIBUTE SYSTEM IS PRACTICALLY NOT WORKING
- Dark Resist lvl 3 + Song of Invocation = -7% dmg.
During C4-C5 Chronicles was ~50% dark resistance
- Other elemental D/S = -3% dmg. In an old chronicles was ~25%.
- As a result we can see necro-parties which couldn’t be resisted.
SOLUTION: To increase an attribute values of buffs and D/S and reach almost 20% resist from one buff. Near 40% from two buffs (Now Dark only).

3. UNBALANCED +12 TATOO
- Bonuses of all sets were developed for +5 max. Many sets are losing their value.
- Giving a great advantage to mages, which can make +12 CON without losing anything. The Physics don’t have nothing like it, even no +MEN.
- The mages are reaching a great DPS increasing from +12 WIT, losing a minimum stats value from –MEN. Not a circumstance to physics victims.
SOLUTION: Making max value +5 as it was always.

4. MELEE CLASSES IS PRACTICALLY UNPLAYEBLE
- Except Warlords and Tanks
- There are no catacombs – primordially comfortable locations for melee classes.
- Nerf Vampiric Rage
- Problems with mana in PVP, in addition to other problems.
SOLUTION: Making VR as it was before.
Decrease the mana cost for some melee skills. Allow making + MEN to fighters.

THE DETAILS AND CONSEQUENCES

5. The huge size of War Icon
- The view of the "Field of War" is decreasing very much.
SOLUTION: Make “Fists” back or make this icon less.

6. Playing Lineage 2 Classic: Age of Necromancers
- Not all people want to play in Necromancers game, but unfortunately, they it is very unbalanced.
- The necromancer on set of DPS/Survival/speed of level up was certainly the best class.
- Earlier we could make a dark resist near 50% from mass-necro parties, but not now.
- 12 tattoo is giving too much to nukers.
- Huge "Fear" land rate and casting speed
- The Top Single-Target exping using CDL.
- Top AOE exping using Corpse Blast (no target limit)
SOLUTION: p.2-p.3 autofixes necro-problem enought.

7. Very cheap BSOE at CH (20k)
- On set p.1 making PVP even less possible.
SOLUTION: Increase the value of BSOE to 150-300k.

8. Transformations
- Another blurry picture of the battle.
- It is unnecessary innovation.
- The way to “Star Wars”.
SOLUTION: Cut of this BS.

9. The redicilous reflect – 40%, which is working on range attacks
- Freezing/ Blazing Skin 20%.
- Chant of Revenge 20%.
- Song of Vengeance 20%.
SOLUTION: Decreasing from 10-20% to 5-10% in all cases.

10. Scrolls of noble buffs in the castle, +2k CP from the castle.
- The way to make immortal parties.
SOLUTION: Removing the noble scroll, decreasing CP bonus to 1k.

[chosen]

It's Classic, Not Interlude.

Anjoy your stay 

[HellHound]

In my opinion, NEVER, NEVER can cogitate on a server NERF any feature. This was, is and will be the reason for the closure of many servers.
What has to be done it consists of a careful analysis of debuffs and compare the results with a reliable and adequate database with chronic move on the server. In case there is any irregularity, correct it.
There has never been a chronic in Lineage 2 that reached 100% approval by the players and I believe that will never exist. I disagree with many features that I look at the Classic, but I believe it is the best Lineage 2 existing platform.
I would like to share some thoughts that I thought made interesting by a known player (DVP) about Lineage 2 Classic and even agreeing with him on some points, disagree with some corrective measures such as basic char status changes.

Hello, guys.
I am "dvp" - old Lineage 2 C1-C5 player.
Also I have been playing RU Classic La2 Server for 8 monthes, and I am playing here nowadays.
But, in general, what i want to say - Classic it's just the best thing that happened with Lineage 2 after Interlude.
But there are some serious troubles. People who didn't played Classic on high levels (60+) couldn't imagine some of them.
I spent a lot of time thinking about main problems and ways to solve them.
Here is short list.

1. AN INSANE DROP WHEN YOU ARE KILLED BY THE MOB
- The chances of drop like from PK in old chronicles – it is not normal.
- The people are afraid of PVP because of losing their items after killing by the mob.
- The new players often leave the server after losing their weapon.
- The people are forced to use the second window for “Force Relog”.
- Permanent “undressing” during solo game or game in squad of mini parties.
SOLUTION: Remove drop of equipped items.

2. THE ATTRIBUTE SYSTEM IS PRACTICALLY NOT WORKING
- Dark Resist lvl 3 + Song of Invocation = -7% dmg.
During C4-C5 Chronicles was ~50% dark resistance
- Other elemental D/S = -3% dmg. In an old chronicles was ~25%.
- As a result we can see necro-parties which couldn’t be resisted.
SOLUTION: To increase an attribute values of buffs and D/S and reach almost 20% resist from one buff. Near 40% from two buffs (Now Dark only).

3. UNBALANCED +12 TATOO
- Bonuses of all sets were developed for +5 max. Many sets are losing their value.
- Giving a great advantage to mages, which can make +12 CON without losing anything. The Physics don’t have nothing like it, even no +MEN.
- The mages are reaching a great DPS increasing from +12 WIT, losing a minimum stats value from –MEN. Not a circumstance to physics victims.
SOLUTION: Making max value +5 as it was always.

4. MELEE CLASSES IS PRACTICALLY UNPLAYEBLE
- Except Warlords and Tanks
- There are no catacombs – primordially comfortable locations for melee classes.
- Nerf Vampiric Rage
- Problems with mana in PVP, in addition to other problems.
SOLUTION: Making VR as it was before.
Decrease the mana cost for some melee skills. Allow making + MEN to fighters.

THE DETAILS AND CONSEQUENCES

5. The huge size of War Icon
- The view of the "Field of War" is decreasing very much.
SOLUTION: Make “Fists” back or make this icon less.

6. Playing Lineage 2 Classic: Age of Necromancers
- Not all people want to play in Necromancers game, but unfortunately, they it is very unbalanced.
- The necromancer on set of DPS/Survival/speed of level up was certainly the best class.
- Earlier we could make a dark resist near 50% from mass-necro parties, but not now.
- 12 tattoo is giving too much to nukers.
- Huge "Fear" land rate and casting speed
- The Top Single-Target exping using CDL.
- Top AOE exping using Corpse Blast (no target limit)
SOLUTION: p.2-p.3 autofixes necro-problem enought.

7. Very cheap BSOE at CH (20k)
- On set p.1 making PVP even less possible.
SOLUTION: Increase the value of BSOE to 150-300k.

8. Transformations
- Another blurry picture of the battle.
- It is unnecessary innovation.
- The way to “Star Wars”.
SOLUTION: Cut of this BS.

9. The redicilous reflect – 40%, which is working on range attacks
- Freezing/ Blazing Skin 20%.
- Chant of Revenge 20%.
- Song of Vengeance 20%.
SOLUTION: Decreasing from 10-20% to 5-10% in all cases.

10. Scrolls of noble buffs in the castle, +2k CP from the castle.
- The way to make immortal parties.
SOLUTION: Removing the noble scroll, decreasing CP bonus to 1k.

​+1 apply those solutions... read them and i agree, agree, agree.. do that so

[qloc01]

In my opinion, NEVER, NEVER can cogitate on a server NERF any feature. This was, is and will be the reason for the closure of many servers.
What has to be done it consists of a careful analysis of debuffs and compare the results with a reliable and adequate database with chronic move on the server. In case there is any irregularity, correct it.
There has never been a chronic in Lineage 2 that reached 100% approval by the players and I believe that will never exist. I disagree with many features that I look at the Classic, but I believe it is the best Lineage 2 existing platform.
I would like to share some thoughts that I thought made interesting by a known player (DVP) about Lineage 2 Classic and even agreeing with him on some points, disagree with some corrective measures such as basic char status changes.

Hello, guys.
I am "dvp" - old Lineage 2 C1-C5 player.
Also I have been playing RU Classic La2 Server for 8 monthes, and I am playing here nowadays.
But, in general, what i want to say - Classic it's just the best thing that happened with Lineage 2 after Interlude.
But there are some serious troubles. People who didn't played Classic on high levels (60+) couldn't imagine some of them.
I spent a lot of time thinking about main problems and ways to solve them.
Here is short list.

1. AN INSANE DROP WHEN YOU ARE KILLED BY THE MOB
- The chances of drop like from PK in old chronicles – it is not normal.
- The people are afraid of PVP because of losing their items after killing by the mob.
- The new players often leave the server after losing their weapon.
- The people are forced to use the second window for “Force Relog”.
- Permanent “undressing” during solo game or game in squad of mini parties.
SOLUTION: Remove drop of equipped items.

2. THE ATTRIBUTE SYSTEM IS PRACTICALLY NOT WORKING
- Dark Resist lvl 3 + Song of Invocation = -7% dmg.
During C4-C5 Chronicles was ~50% dark resistance
- Other elemental D/S = -3% dmg. In an old chronicles was ~25%.
- As a result we can see necro-parties which couldn’t be resisted.
SOLUTION: To increase an attribute values of buffs and D/S and reach almost 20% resist from one buff. Near 40% from two buffs (Now Dark only).

3. UNBALANCED +12 TATOO
- Bonuses of all sets were developed for +5 max. Many sets are losing their value.
- Giving a great advantage to mages, which can make +12 CON without losing anything. The Physics don’t have nothing like it, even no +MEN.
- The mages are reaching a great DPS increasing from +12 WIT, losing a minimum stats value from –MEN. Not a circumstance to physics victims.
SOLUTION: Making max value +5 as it was always.

4. MELEE CLASSES IS PRACTICALLY UNPLAYEBLE
- Except Warlords and Tanks
- There are no catacombs – primordially comfortable locations for melee classes.
- Nerf Vampiric Rage
- Problems with mana in PVP, in addition to other problems.
SOLUTION: Making VR as it was before.
Decrease the mana cost for some melee skills. Allow making + MEN to fighters.

THE DETAILS AND CONSEQUENCES

5. The huge size of War Icon
- The view of the "Field of War" is decreasing very much.
SOLUTION: Make “Fists” back or make this icon less.

6. Playing Lineage 2 Classic: Age of Necromancers
- Not all people want to play in Necromancers game, but unfortunately, they it is very unbalanced.
- The necromancer on set of DPS/Survival/speed of level up was certainly the best class.
- Earlier we could make a dark resist near 50% from mass-necro parties, but not now.
- 12 tattoo is giving too much to nukers.
- Huge "Fear" land rate and casting speed
- The Top Single-Target exping using CDL.
- Top AOE exping using Corpse Blast (no target limit)
SOLUTION: p.2-p.3 autofixes necro-problem enought.

7. Very cheap BSOE at CH (20k)
- On set p.1 making PVP even less possible.
SOLUTION: Increase the value of BSOE to 150-300k.

8. Transformations
- Another blurry picture of the battle.
- It is unnecessary innovation.
- The way to “Star Wars”.
SOLUTION: Cut of this BS.

9. The redicilous reflect – 40%, which is working on range attacks
- Freezing/ Blazing Skin 20%.
- Chant of Revenge 20%.
- Song of Vengeance 20%.
SOLUTION: Decreasing from 10-20% to 5-10% in all cases.

10. Scrolls of noble buffs in the castle, +2k CP from the castle.
- The way to make immortal parties.
SOLUTION: Removing the noble scroll, decreasing CP bonus to 1k.

​you post this thread late 3 months