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i am still waiting for the nicknames of retired PS players from guy, who thinks L2 is anime and "friendship and love" will win in the end i guess its hard to swallow pill for him that simply said, better olympiad player wins hero, not the one who loves the class more there was already this PS player on this server who said exactly his words on top of "maybe i will log PW and take your hero", well, as i said, next month he ended without hero on his PS, what was his name? half4kill? kill4fun? or something with this style :d

and who are those retired pro players? :p duh, last time someone said "try to play my class and you will see, or maybe i will play yours and steal your hero", that guy ended without hero next month i dont even know who is PS hero right now, i am pretty confident if i really wanted to take it, i could just take it

never said you have to agree its not like summon will magically start hitting other summoner in doom robe just coz of this 10% speed, usually its just running around, waiting who lands the CC sooner and having more dps on non moving target was better, not like you could burst people by just useing skill once per 30 seconds anyway (maybe now with boost of summoner you could actually do some nice dmg with slice and dice when enemy hp drops to like 70-80% from poison, but other way, not really you didnt even play here when i was playing on PS :d so i wonder how would you know who is better than me or not :d

1x ES, 2x warlock, 3x PS hero so once you will need some tips on PS, feel free to pm me @Robbin92 mr. PRO :p (also i know, weird flex)

yeah dude, i probably dont know anything about summoners :p just probably i know about PS more than you, but thats a detail ps: assassin servitor is never better than final servitor, 10% speed on pet is never worth it over all the other stats final servitor gives

for him its probably clicking that one more button with spark cubic once it procs, you know, so much harder than other classes

maybe the newest content, MAYBE, but maybe you noticed, that with each update, they make everything accessible to randoms and solo players pretty much, every zone gets nerfed to point where solo ppl farm it with few boxes, etc., l2 was never party oriented eventho they wanted it to look like that, "find friends and play with them", naah, everyone ended playing 3-4 people boxed farming party areas in the end, thats not party gameplay to me also if its so important, then its not "stopping your main activity", you simply choose whats more important

yeah, same like with for example zaken cloak, you dont go to DI with full party to farm quest (which i think also works like this, that you get 1 item per party, not 1 per party member), simply said, L2 is sadly not revolving around CPs in general, but main fuel for servers are randoms, hard to get over this fact but it is how it is

idk, back in the days, SV was popping that you could barely find any spot to farm, because it was such a good xp and adena (on top of full top B weapons), after reworked special aggro and idk what else, its fully dead if i am new solo player, thats exactly what i would be looking for, if its CP, they get extra boost while farming GC already and they can make this quest solo when CP is offline and like 2 members are on or something to not waste time at all

20 coins, 3 pirate fruits, high xp scroll and 3 buff scrolls sungs suggestion doesnt seem bad, but on other hand rizos had very good point on discord, that this was made to make bracelets more accessible to new players, in which case if you dedicate yourself to SV farm, you can do it several times a day now and complete your bracelet much sooner on the other hand, i guess its just extra cookie for farming in GC, its not like you need to finish it in a day or anything, you just get some boost for what you already do nowadays

but it is. actually. easy. you say its unfair for some classes to have several win conditions, PS has more than 1 win condition - kill enemy with DoT damage, kill enemy with pet while you run, stun lock enemy with cubic how is that fair to you? also you say you dont like people talk about your class when they didnt even play it, how they say "its sooo easy" so which of those classes you mentioned and said are easier than summoner you actually played? coz i am pretty damn sure you didnt even play half of them in olympiad, yet claiming they are easier than PS

no, it trully is not different story its somewhere in the middle to master it in olympiad, maybe even in the easier half as well

thats average PS gameplay is it harder than average other class gameplay? no its not sorry, even mastering PS in olympiad is much easier than many classes, hell its even easier than DA and thats like only example i gave which is easier on average than summoner

no you dont, literally only thing you do is guard+bene -> bane enemy twice -> send pet to auto attack -> run how is that harder than any other class?

you know you could just change the 75+ lvl quest, right? the problem was the quest is repeatable and since lower level quests are 1 time a day, 3 scrolls a day arent that big of a deal (and i guess that was whole point of these quests for low lvls to actually catch up to 75+ to start participating in end game content) i mean, this change was step towards better direction, but i think it still needs some tweaking

so if you agree with it, whats the point of this topic? maybe you missed the whole part of that paragraph

yeah, thats what i am talking about as well average summoner player has much easier gameplay than average player of classes you mentioned, no matter if you like it or not, it is how it is, summoner is freaking damn easy class to play (in olympiad, outside of olympiad its different story where i consider PS to be the hardest class to master, but you speak about olympiad, so lets stick with it) playing olympiad on summoner were one of the easiest times of my life

if the 2) will actually happen, i would consider lowering MP consumption on all those skills you mentioned (servitor heal, remove root/anchor, remove bleed/poison), right now the amount of MP you need to spend on 1 heal for servitor is too freaking much (its comparable with fully resummoning pet)

well, i mean, sure if you want to say "you are useless, you can just go and lose while doing nothing", those classes trully are easier to play if you actually try to win something, nop, sorry, all those classes are actually much harder than what you need to be average summoner player

take any class without fear and its already harder than PS actually, even some fear classes are harder to play than PS (aka destro/necro) so which classes are actually easier to play than summoner (i put all summoners into same list, coz they are pretty much same gameplay wise) except DA?

no there are not, the quest is repeatable, that means you can make it as many times as you want right now since you get 3 scrolls, that means it lasts for 1h, so in 1h, you need to kill 600 mobs to replenish 100% boost, thats 200 mobs in buff round or 10 mobs a minute, which is easily doable and even if it wasnt, lets say it takes you 4 rebuffs to complete quest and not 3 this is literally saying "you are playing on x6 server from now on"

1) stuns were already balanced with introduction of BW set and MJ being more available, second of all, stun can be cored, and stun can be taken down when you take damage, i honestly dont get stunlocked at all lately even in olympiad, if you add this one more condition, i dont think stun will be even worth to be casted 2) interesting change, but cannot over do it, maybe 1, max 2 seconds increase in cast, other way they will be again useless, i would be very careful about this, because summoners are good only in olympiad currently 3) this panther of DA is stupid by its own, it having cancel and actually damage on top of whole DA kit, resummoning it is already breeze with robe set and +12 wit dyes (you need just 1 fear or stun and you easy recast), it shouldnt really be tankier

but summoner truly is easy class to play, so what are you trying to say?

ok, that doesnt solve much either, coz people will be just popping them like crazy whole day when you farm GC i dont see why this server should change into x6 server rate on top of some other boosts you have, trust me, the last thing you want on classic is people reaching end game goals fast (do you remember 2.0 saviors? how much people had to farm toi to buy 1x 3rd class skill? thats the moment people had to go out and farm farm farm for month to get 1 skill, and you needed like freaking 20 of them in party, right now there is no such thing to do, except xp, why make it so much easier?)