Kure 444 Report post Posted March 24, 2019 On 3/22/2019 at 8:34 PM, Kse said: We see this topic became interesting for players, and some doubted our work, believing theres indeed witch hunt against Chinese players happening around. So we want to show how that case was proceeded from the start till now. We received bot report with few names to be checked. Check confirmed soft usage, bans given. Here is 1 of videos with 5 bots together. (Chat in all presented videos is blurred due to privacy policy. While check, players IPs/HWIDs are being checked, and we can not share this information publicly) Next day. Since trust credit of these people is on 0, connected to them accounts are continued to be checked. Yes, it happens all the time, so if some of your chars got banned for botting, you will be looked after on others as well. What do we find? More bots, of course. Here are 3 of many more videos: We have at least 8 more videos with other bots, connected to that case. (1 of characters name contains HOYO... coinsidence?) The main question: How do those bots connected to our "innocent" players. With a help of amazing thing, such as server logs, we can find a lot of interesting connections (all of them, actually). Some of main ones will be shown, but they are enough to understand, that our "unfairly banned" players has a veeery close connection to those bots, and profiting from them really well. I will show it on example of "unfairly banned" HoyoUP/ATM1/QianQianV Other "unfairly banned" in this case players has their connections as well, but they don't worth the time going through gigabytes of logs and gathering, screening, uploading same info for them as well. Our bots, shown in videos, are constantly sending/trading/dropping botted goods to the char ATM1 1 of the logs records: https://pix.my/8z1RTL Another one: https://pix.my/cZY1aM Third one: https://pix.my/TBp2Wp xiaohao - is the character from the same account as qqqqqppppp from the video 1 1 more with the character from 1st video: https://pix.my/jT8Sde (All you need to understand from these screens is character's interactions and items/Adena transfers between them). Item types are not always what you see in log, but it's too long to explain and you, most likely, are not gonna need it at any point of your life, so just leave it to us So, connection with "unfairly banned" ATM1 found. And it's clear as a morning dew. And now let's see what does ATM1 do: 1. Trading good amounts of botted adena with "unfairly banned" QianQuan and QianQianVhttps://pix.my/2fkIKQ 2. Trading with "unfairly banned" HoyoUPhttps://pix.my/nNK5DH 3. "Unfairly banned" QianQuan's interrogation with HoyoUPhttps://pix.my/EuEPYQ So all, what tens of bots gained, is now spreading between those chars. I will not mention IPs connections, which are all over the place btw, because (again) it's a matter of privacy policy and we are not allowed to open it on public. And now is the main question: Do people, using tens of character on bots for self profit, deserve to play on the project? Is it Ok to let them be, let them spread bots all over the map and turn server into trash? Or someone still thinks it's a witch hunt and all we want is to ban Chinese players? And last, but not least words about topic starter. He is not Chinese, but Russian, or at least Russian speaker, as his CP member confirmed. He is just a member of Chinese CP. What was the reason of pretending being Chinese and accusing us in hunting Chinese players is a mystery. His words "but only one person has used the bot. Bot was used for the first time! You should have unbanned all accounts. Since this is the first time!" are not true. All accounts, banned in this case, were involved in a mass botting operation. None of banned in this case accounts will ever be unbanned. Case closed without right to appeal or any further discussions. This is how you deal with bots! Game. Set. Match. Well played. P.S. @NcWest watch and learn Quote Share this post Link to post
Xipicau 3 Report post Posted March 24, 2019 On 3/23/2019 at 7:51 PM, Koll said: No, sorry. 2.4 Give access to their account to other players. BUT by giving your account to anyone, you take on responsibility for everything that may happen to it (scam, ban, password change etc).https://l2classic.club/forum/topic/2181-project-rules/ Also you asking to Unban ATM1 - who was directly involved in getting profit from bots... Normal and honest players (which no matter people say, are the backbone of any server community, not the minority that are no lifers and want to reach end-game as fast as possible) really appreciate this behavior of "no second chances" on this matter. Keep in mind (and I'm pretty sure everyone noticed) the big increase of new/returning players that came from the official servers failures exactly because the bot issue (and some others like P2W model) was not being handled properly. These players (I'm in that bucket) want to play fair and paying a Premium Account (and help to support the server) is no problem at all, as well as using the Auction system to avoid buying adena illegally with real money. I really think that players have no problem wasting their money (PA/Auction) as long as the service they get is good. Once again I'm in that bucket: in months of play in NCWest I never payed a single € in L2 Store - I was not getting a good service. The first days I came here, I had no problem paying for PA and use Auction system - me and my whole clan actually. Bottom line: keep banning and putting effort in this. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
ChinaChina 0 Report post Posted March 25, 2019 Mr. Koll Unlock other people. They are not guilty. Give them a chance to play on your server. Quote Share this post Link to post
ChinaChina 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2019 We were blocked for the cyclical macro! The whole group. This is not fair. Maybe someone used the bot! But not all the players that you banned! Unlock, please, Mr. Koll. Quote Share this post Link to post
Destabilomaterializacja 158 Report post Posted March 26, 2019 We are buissnessmans Mr.Koll . ? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Sensei 460 Report post Posted March 27, 2019 19 hours ago, ChinaChina said: We were blocked for the cyclical macro! The whole group. This is not fair. Maybe someone used the bot! But not all the players that you banned! Unlock, please, Mr. Koll. Haven't you guys learned not to leave the nephew on pc yet? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post