MoDoy

i p;ayed mostly GF servers and those were HB quest exclusive, farming zillions of atods and life forces also cake mechanics were also on RPG and it brought lots of pvp for them on top spots, which at one side was sad if you used cake and then you were pvping for 1h straight instead of exping, but on the other hand you pvped for 1h, which is great

HB zone (not the citadel tho, screw citadel honestly with all the deep corners ppl used to hide) reasons: 1) only 78+ people with quest could enter, so no annoying lvl 1 cameras on every 2 steps monitoring your movement 2) even if you had mobs on you and enemy party came, you could regroup yourself and fight instead of just giving up the opportunity, as you got ported to wasteland and not in town (carebears hate it!) 3) HB grind for dynasty armors - so HB was only place to farm dynasty and especially from start before your party got geared with full S80/vesper with attribute, it was freaking hard so you actually had to go there and grind for looooooong time, people would have to pvp for spots because everyone needed dynasty set and thus everyone concentrated on one place, especially fights for Celtus which is something like hekaton, except that it wasnt "chance" to get something good, you always got something good but you needed many of those items for dynasty Hellbound location back in the time, i would compare it to ToI in 2.0 saviors update, it was only spot where you could get tablets for 3rd class skills (which you needed) and you had to grind for loooong time to gather enough to get them, so people were fighting for ToI and farming it as much as possible, except the fact that in ToI you pretty much had no chance to farm if you were weaker side, but on HB there were several spots you could farm even if you were losing side (chimeras upper/lower spot, green spot, desert spot) i think we are missing something like that right now in game, only thing which matters is xp and you can do that on quite many places and there are many ways to do it (and its kinda fast i would say), too bad tbh because people log for 20 minutes for SV bosses and after that instant log out, because why would you go GC

when you can make up to 400kk xp per rebuff in GC

because summoners got nicely balanced thanks god necros are okay like this, everything like it should be

haha, i am 100% sure @Yomana will like it coz of one piece intro nicely made

ah, coz you know, they have necros in side :d that would hurt too much if this one got nerf

if enemy mages hit you for 800 and take away 50% out of it, then i have no reason to stay behind on summoner so in your eyes this pov is fine, when actual mage crits for double the damage of pre-nerfed summoners?

ah, i forgot i know nothing, at least you are not clueless and reminded me what i actually played dumbo me, thanks a lot

ah, i forgot you played solo in your side on your lovely 80 lvl DA at that time my bad

no, others your side was just too pussy to fight, so i didnt fraps pve with me PW

? as i said, i played also PW in that month, together with like next 4-5 classes

yes i actually did i didnt play only PW, but yes, i played also PW any other questions mr reporter?

yes, and thats only because i built that imagine on my char, how many times you heard "go aggro 1oo1oo or ReactNation or palanos" or w/e pooper dagger there is? coz i personally didnt, because dagger as class is irrelevant, unless you have top equip now if you get top equip on warlord, be hero and idk what else, i am pretty sure it could be quite some caliber of a class which has huge impact in mass pvp (tho i still dont think it would make into top composition, same as PW is not cutting it in top composition, but who is going to tell me i cannot play it?)

and you saw that in bolywood movies? PW is decent damage dealer? in what world? show me 1 PW who is decent damage dealer ps: this is how much fun you can have on dagger, instead of being on 900 range and nuke tanks for 1-2k normals and 5k crits, you can do ping pong style, thats how competitive PW as class is (and thats HERO pw gameplay, if ti was random pw it would be dead before the first aggro even hits him)

yes, i will. Do you think PW has better spot in list than warlord? as being part of competitive CP? if yes, how many CPs have PW in setup? yet you saw me playing PW in pretty competitive CP for quite some time, didnt you? so now i am asking, why do you think same thing cannot be done with WL?

what means competitive CP? just being in pvp? then you can be competitive cp even with warlord. find cp with whatever setup but with activity and sides will fight for you like there is no tomorrow, no matter what kind of sh1t setup you play by competitive i mean you literally have to carry fights, just being there is not good enough if you dont have enough pressure. out of 31 classes, how many do you think can make it into competitive setup in my definition? no many, but that also goes that not every cp tries to be competitive

viva la kiss of eva that people were in AWE from how amazing admins are for implementing this buff and how great it is, yep, thats what ppl recieved

viable? yes. optimal? no. did ppl play summoners pre-boost patch? yes they did. Were summoners optimal pre-boost patch? no they werent. now apply this analogically to warlord and wuala, you can play warlord, its that easy if you like that class

cool, so you had no active buffer who could do all this stuff we were doing, going with 5 DDs setup - i guess thats your definition of classic i can tell you that in pve its not as you might think it is, that hurr durr you have infinite MP like PR with orfen 3 (which nobody cares about btw), we were getting out of mana pretty fast and we had orfens 3 on them

so now its "player" thingie? who cares who played nabao at those times? and so what? now i should tell to all people "yo guys, dont play dagger, because without AQ/baium talisman/orfen3/hero/+8 set its not really worth it, and you know, how many people have actually access to those items? no. people will play what they like if they want to, you wont be stunning for first 2 minutes, and so what? thats why i said you wont be in top compositions, because your addition is very little in those first 2 minutes of the fight also can you tell us who played active WC/OL in your party today during SV pvps? or you want to tell me you didnt play 3 nukers + DA + paladin setup?

i can tell you first pvp vs chinese on summoners we got annihilated like little kids, just because they rushed us and AoEd us like there is no tomorrow in 5s with their mages/DAs and you can forget about such AoE on summoners, sure, summoners were insane on open space field where they had their space to nuke whatever came close, the moment you came close combat and got AoEd by tyrants/mages, that was game over for you on summoner also who told you that you cannot have fun with WL? afaik Nabao was still playing WL after BW implementation, he posted videos, honestly it didnt look AS TERRIBLE as people describe it. Are you going to have same impact as on previous patch? no. is WL going to make it into top comp CPs? no. but who said you cannot have fun with it? also tell me 1 thing why 5% drain on WCs passive is such a terrible thing that it needs to be nerfed tomorrow? afaik they got robbed of everything they had in pvps with puri song, right now they are usually just standing player who rebuffs from time to time - thats why people are even skipping WC/OL and take another DD instead of it - for you thats fun? thats all right? dunno, at least for me, fighting against tyrants/necro while DAs 80 rush me become pretty stale, changes were done and instantly after it nerfes came sooner than lightning before any1 even tried to play something against these summoners

what bug are we talking about? did you guys even read patchnotes or you went clueless into update and now say "we abuse new update"?

this makes me really unhappy, whenever i speak about classic update, i literally say that in this update anything is possible if you put your mind into it, any setup is possible, any char has chances, you just need to have imagination, i thought i sent this message strongly like 3 years ago when i was smashing olympiad with SR when people said its impossible. do you have imagination of rocking horse? that only tyrant/mage/archer should make dmg? who decides that? why? for example i clearly explained you in past that gladiator is perfect example of this. does gladi suck? hell yeah. is it unplayable? hell no. put it in archer setup, make out of him secondary DD frontline who hexes for your PRs and you have unstoppable machine out of that class and party setup, but hey, for that you just need to get over it that its not going to be your casual interlude 1vs1 master anymore but you will be assigned different role also whoever says that archers are pitiful or should be sad in their current state (pre-nerf) also has no imagination, archers were more than fine just people prefer to take the easy way out, why should they tryhard in GC with archers, why should they tryhard in oly with archers, why should they tryhard on bosses with archers, when they can go tyrants and have everything served on silver plate now who said tyrant/mage/archer should be DD? who decides that? what if i make out of DDs my supports and DDs out of my support? did we also make crime back in the time when uchiha CP recruited dajtovillage on necro to be our frontline/debuffer? because we made out of necro do something its not his primary role? pathetic.

haha, remember before zaken update hit server? how i tryharded on my PW to actually get as much M def as possible? i went to 1.7k (used drake armor+7, bugged toi 5, etc. etc.) just to find out sjeks is going to m crit me for 6-7k while i did 2k dmg to him with my dagger because they had pala buff and we didnt lovely, wasnt it?

yeah, we dont speak with facts, us warning them not to give nukes to these summoners was just our imagination, instead lafi spoke with facts, showed test on official how summoners are much weaker than mages welp, mistakes were made and yeah, how many months out of those 12 months you were direct focus of sjeks party? let me hint you: none of them