MoDoy

it felt like tickling even before the changes, ppl saying summons were main source of damage on summoners dont even know how wrong they were (except maybe for ES in mass pvp/ sieges where you can hydro pump many ppl at once, but other way, nop)

wait, what? :<

more range than summoner nuke and fatal still hurts even on light armor, when i say archers are counter to them, trust me they are not saying they are perfect counter, but they are the best counter to summoners right now, because on melees you will just get baned and you are pretty much done

i agree its retarded, but simply people will have to acknowledge that meta has changed (at least for now) with update like it was in past as well with updates, mages, welp, yeah, they will be useless, THO hero mages can still find their role, now yeah, there can be only 3-4 of them on whole server, but that just means you gotta try harder and snatch that spot for yourself, same like in past it worked with daggers, you are not hero dagger? you can say bye to trying to find party/slot for pvp, because everyone will just go for gladi/tyrant/warlord also i somehow missed how archers will be useless, when its main source of fighting against summoners in normal pvp @_@

why tho?

oh come on, dont overreact like its corona virus

well, every update some certain class is a little bit better than others, 1.5 were necros, 2.0 were tyrants, 2.1 lets call it are summoners

yep, time to destroy tyrants boiz

gratz, any1 who played today olympiad realized how retarded this update is, exactly how i said before not to make this mistake and give summoners high lvl dmg nuke, but rather give them some real summoner feature @Lafi this is what happens when summoners get high lvl nuke, absolute crap, they were fine the way they were before, now they will roll OVER EVERYONE ps: plx dont change it, wasted 30kk adena for dyes and xped my new summoner toi to learn new skills, dont let it go in waste after 1 day of fun 2 shotting stacked destros in oly

you will see like rest of server like rizos said, if you thought tyrant setup was op, you will get surprised ;x

dude, you are so wrong that it hurts, when we pvped with summoners, main source of dmg was already from nukes (octo/choseyourside), also mages were fine last update withou koe, sooo just wait and see, hopefully there will be some brave wartags testing out patch this weekend (minimum olympiad)

just wait and see, once video gets out and it wont be lafi posting this test from offi how summoners hit 30% less than mages, you might see changes also adding some oly movie from summoner how you evaporate people may help

dude, mages were more than fine last patch, what happens with summoners right now is over the top but from experience staff works really fast the moment such crap gets exposed in video, cant wait for weekend pvping with summoners to make video so they can see they pretty much allowed rape on server

lf enemies for weekend, gotta make movie how we rape tyrants in 30s if no party ud and how summoners crit over 3k with nukes now

well, their decision, i was willing to smash full tyrant party setup with top kek se with our lolo summoners, but now it will be so easy it wont even be funny anymore once they lose, because its natural also gl killin summoners in oly, they can just stand in corner and blew you with 5 nukes + pony nice update, let the real linemage start, but with summoners twist ?

they are showing on sieges, they were rektin ppl on priests a d zaken, he didnt mention his prime, so why not? sure, they arent the best, but he cannot expect to be best if he wants to be casual also afaik hdm+br are fightin vs china brs, they probably pvp more than eu right now, so who cares, he can try and decide himself

isnt hdm class based rather than cp based? right now i dont think there is another clan which ismt cp based and pvps

nah, there is difference between summoner dmg and nuker dmg, but generally its not that great in long go, consieerin how many pros summoners have compared to mages rather than nukes, i could imagine old buff pets getting back but lvling to high lvl and if you want to ensure ppl wont just log it as box, make buff before pvp and kick, you could do even something as stupid as making duration 60s, so you, as actie summoner would have to resummon different kind of pets during fight to be decent

its ok ordi, dont waste too much breath for someone who thinks skill power is part of FC complecity you will get it fixed for sure, just have in mind how much time they need to fix problems ;x

you can call me crazy but i honestly believe summoners arent gettin nuke boost on next update

i am not in FW and even if i were, i wouldnt be able to play today about them accepting for this pvp at 15, i doubt they will accept (and not because they wouldnt like to try), because of events from yday, they might deny fun from you (you as you, not you as china) but maybe i am wrong and you guys will have nice pvps today

do you smell it as well? its salty and its not axzp oh, its sea! - summer vacations in march

in whole history of L2 thats how it worked, you dont lose enchant value when sealing/unsealing armors, i havent seen any +7/8 A grade set, idk what you are talking about that they are "easier attainable" and honestly, +3 A grade set is much worse than +6/7/8 B grade set, if you change this, you will shut down whole A grade armor idea i dont want whole server to be stuck with B grade armor/weapons when they will be 83 lvl, because at that point trying to overenchant A/S grade will be pain in the ass, let the server go forward

just curious, did you find bishop already? coz without it, its going to be freaking poop pvp