kktnxbye 215 Report post Posted May 17, 2017 48 minutes ago, BlackJack said: I like it, makes having pk chars useful again. Okay lets imagine the situation, you go to abg, see a party of 65-70 untagged war(9-10 chars), what you will do with them? You will lvl 3-4 PK PR 70+ lvl only for this case?Do you realize that PR with ng\d\c jews is 1-shot for the same lvl mage?They will kill PK and will kill flagged high lvl support after. Or you can go PK them with main chars 1 time and they will peacefully farm next 12 hours(+time to clear PK, remember maybe you will need to kill 2100 mobs to clear 3 PK and spend 1.125kk for that). Do you realize how many time you will need to waste for several PRs 60lvl and delvled it only for epics?And what can they do anyway?They will be same 1 shot for any CDL and they are many. Do you realize that 345k-1.125kk is a little bit pricy and time-consuming for low lvl PK? Do you realize that before everyone who see bot party could PK it and now ppl just leave bots to farm? This new PK system is another example why this server should not look to the official one. In the past (c1-c2) we didnt have PK clearing system and used PK parties with PK archers but it worked always for lesser levels and not organized parties. All serious PK of wartags without wars were carried out with main characters with clearing in clan halls through death(and loosing same % as PKed wars). Right now its balanced. You can remove ppl from spot by PKing them (it's pricy as well cause sometimes ppl need to clear 3 pk 2-3 times a day).And at same time its too pricy and time-consuming to just PK for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post
BlackJack 574 Report post Posted May 17, 2017 10 minutes ago, kktnxbye said: Okay lets imagine the situation, you go to abg, see a party of 65-70 untagged war(9-10 chars), what you will do with them? You will lvl 3-4 PK PR 70+ lvl only for this case?Do you realize that PR with ng\d\c jews is 1-shot for the same lvl mage?They will kill PK and will kill flagged high lvl support after. Or you can go PK them with main chars 1 time and they will peacefully farm next 12 hours(+time to clear PK, remember maybe you will need to kill 2100 mobs to clear 3 PK and spend 1.125kk for that). Do you realize how many time you will need to waste for several PRs 60lvl and delvled it only for epics?And what can they do anyway?They will be same 1 shot for any CDL and they are many. Do you realize that 345k-1.125kk is a little bit pricy and time-consuming for low lvl PK? Do you realize that before everyone who see bot party could PK it and now ppl just leave bots to farm? This new PK system is another example why this server should not look to the official one. In the past (c1-c2) we didnt have PK clearing system and used PK parties with PK archers but it worked always for lesser levels and not organized parties. All serious PK of wartags without wars were carried out with main characters with clearing in clan halls through death(and loosing same % as PKed wars). Right now its balanced. You can remove ppl from spot by PKing them (it's pricy as well cause sometimes ppl need to clear 3 pk 2-3 times a day).And at same time its too pricy and time-consuming to just PK for fun. Right now its balanced? If you are not 76 pking has no consequences at all. Yes the new official system numbers might need tweeking, but with the right numbers it could work well. Quote Share this post Link to post
Arcanum 312 Report post Posted May 17, 2017 not sure how i feel about this. the old Sin Eater quest was ok, but this new one seems a bit too much time/money consuming. people will still be able to grief botters or untagged wars anyway, the quest was probably introduced just to lower the amount of people going around with high levels to PK lowbies with no serious consequences for them. increasing the price of PK scrolls would be another alternative, but even in that case it wouldn't be fair to those who just PK untagged wars when necessary. to be honest, they should have introduced the old Sin Eater quest just like it was before: you get the collar, you kill mobs while giving all your EXP to the Sin Eater, when it's full you go back to the Black Judge, he removes 1~3 PKs and that's it. Quote Share this post Link to post
Rizos 1487 Report post Posted May 17, 2017 I like current system. This antharas update pk system is BIG BULLSHIT. Quote Share this post Link to post
kktnxbye 215 Report post Posted May 17, 2017 5 hours ago, BlackJack said: Right now its balanced? If you are not 76 pking has no consequences at all. Yes the new official system numbers might need tweeking, but with the right numbers it could work well. No consequences? Its still some money and time. What is the reason to PK chars on low abg\ev spot with your main? They will res with bp\ee and got their 1-2% back with 1 train. This measure is effective only if not only your party PK war untagged party. Also you think from NEcro 76 POV with ++equip. Sure you can PK anything with 5-10 lvls less without consequences. If its epic - almost everytime we have PKs with >3 - with drop. You cant just PK non stop to clear the spot - you need to waste ~20min (road from spot and back,clearing,rebuff). Current system defends lower lvls from PKing by high lvls - they have no reason waste time and money. And still allow ppl to PK for a little (to clear spot\kill war's untagged support). If ppl(not war) stronly willing to stay on the spot - you actually cant do much. Isnt a balance? Why to ruin what is works fine and make new system needed serious tweaking? Quote Share this post Link to post
gfbot 207 Report post Posted May 17, 2017 Ncsoft finally admits their pk system is awful. Only took them 2 years. Quote Share this post Link to post