Khavali 0 Report post Posted October 28, 2018 I've been looking at this server for awhile, and have played off and on at various low rate servers over the past decade. Played retail from OB until C5 when I started to sense the game shifting away from its original feel, and life had me going in other directions as well. I'm looking to play Tyrant, my typical go-to, and box it with an SE. Regardless of min/max or what is "best" I'll play the class because of all the nostalgia anyway. Any experienced Orcs here who care to provide their thoughts? Thanks in advance for any comments. Quote Share this post Link to post
Missavrora 3 Report post Posted October 30, 2018 Im new too this sever as well, as I can see know, where is a lot of tyrants, they can do great solo with box buffer and everyone AOE random party will take them as well. They are comfortable to play. idk about se actually, I think PP would be much more better... haste lvl 2, bers.. vampiric rage as I know sucks in classic. Quote Share this post Link to post
driver 247 Report post Posted October 30, 2018 30 minutes ago, Missavrora said: Im new too this sever as well, as I can see know, where is a lot of tyrants, they can do great solo with box buffer and everyone AOE random party will take them as well. They are comfortable to play. idk about se actually, I think PP would be much more better... haste lvl 2, bers.. vampiric rage as I know sucks in classic. dunno why, but i think SE buffs are better if you will farm sometimes in random aoe party. you dont have only haste for all attack buffs and ofc no gmight. at low lvl you can easy use 1lvl haste from shop. Quote Share this post Link to post
BlackJack 574 Report post Posted October 30, 2018 45 minutes ago, driver said: dunno why, but i think SE buffs are better if you will farm sometimes in random aoe party. you dont have only haste for all attack buffs and ofc no gmight. at low lvl you can easy use 1lvl haste from shop. SE is cool also cuze u can solo aoe on some spots. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Khavali 0 Report post Posted October 31, 2018 Thanks for the responses. It appears a Prophet may be the ticket. I think having haste will outweigh the ability to recharge in the long run. And also, I think you're right about VR on classic not being OP like it was in later patches. Quote Share this post Link to post
Black Sails 43 Report post Posted October 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Khavali said: I think you're right about VR on classic not being OP like it was in later patches. ....aaaand you can get it from fish stews Quote Share this post Link to post
Rizos 1487 Report post Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) On 10/28/2018 at 8:46 PM, Khavali said: I've been looking at this server for awhile, and have played off and on at various low rate servers over the past decade. Played retail from OB until C5 when I started to sense the game shifting away from its original feel, and life had me going in other directions as well. I'm looking to play Tyrant, my typical go-to, and box it with an SE. Regardless of min/max or what is "best" I'll play the class because of all the nostalgia anyway. Any experienced Orcs here who care to provide their thoughts? Thanks in advance for any comments. This orc is BEAST here bro. Probably the best chronicle for tyrant since many years. Its usefull everywhere and for everything. PvP, mass pvp, aoe, farm 1 by 1, rbs. Its best at everything ;d. Take a look AND HAVE FUN: Edited October 31, 2018 by Rizos 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
kevilicious 17 Report post Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) On 10/31/2018 at 1:46 AM, Rizos said: This orc is BEAST here bro. Probably the best chronicle for tyrant since many years. Its usefull everywhere and for everything. PvP, mass pvp, aoe, farm 1 by 1, rbs. Its best at everything ;d. Take a look AND HAVE FUN: It's definitely not the best of AoE farm..... mages greatly outshine them. But they are still good! Just not best. Edit: What..... you attack like a mage. XD XD XD XD Wow Tyrants OP! Edited November 4, 2018 by kevilicious Quote Share this post Link to post
Kure 444 Report post Posted November 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, kevilicious said: On 10/31/2018 at 9:46 AM, Rizos said: It's definitely not the best of AoE farm It is, if you know how to use it propperly. Quote Share this post Link to post
kevilicious 17 Report post Posted November 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Kure said: It is, if you know how to use it propperly. Well for large scale ABG pulls that we do, our tyrant can't kill nearly as fast or as well as I can on my mage. His AoE has limitations while mine doesn't. Small pulls, sure they can do fine. Quote Share this post Link to post
Kure 444 Report post Posted November 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, kevilicious said: Well for large scale ABG pulls that we do, our tyrant can't kill nearly as fast or as well as I can on my mage. His AoE has limitations while mine doesn't. Small pulls, sure they can do fine. only necro has aoe without target limitations I was speaking more MP-wise than target-wise tho... since tyrants aoe skills depends much more on P.atk rather than power of skill itself its good to have aoe skills on low lvl so you can cast much more of them in same mp pool Quote Share this post Link to post
kevilicious 17 Report post Posted November 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Kure said: only necro has aoe without target limitations I was speaking more MP-wise than target-wise tho... since tyrants aoe skills depends much more on P.atk rather than power of skill itself its good to have aoe skills on low lvl so you can cast much more of them in same mp pool oh didn't know that! Cool. Well all mages have an AoE without limitations. Mages get Aura Flash which has no limitations. So does corpse burst from Necros. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Rizos 1487 Report post Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, kevilicious said: It's definitely not the best of AoE farm..... mages greatly outshine them. But they are still good! Just not best. Edit: What..... you attack like a mage. XD XD XD XD Wow Tyrants OP! gues u dont know what aoe farm tyrant is capable of. maybe @MoDoy has some video of our latest AOE farms. I can tell you some days ago we farmed TOI aoe and we were kiling faster than hero mage pt Edit: tyrant aoe scales VERY WELL with p atk. You get 2x more p atk, you hit almost 2x stronger with AOE. So if you have low geared tyrant and low geared mage then mage kills faster, but if you compare some fully stacked tyrant with fully stacked mage then i think sorc>tyrant>rest in aoe, except necro is best for very huge trains. Edited November 4, 2018 by Rizos Quote Share this post Link to post
Kure 444 Report post Posted November 4, 2018 24 minutes ago, Rizos said: gues u dont know what aoe farm tyrant is capable of. maybe @MoDoy has some video of our latest AOE farms. I can tell you some days ago we farmed TOI aoe and we were kiling faster than hero mage pt Edit: tyrant aoe scales VERY WELL with p atk. You get 2x more p atk, you hit almost 2x stronger with AOE. So if you have low geared tyrant and low geared mage then mage kills faster, but if you compare some fully stacked tyrant with fully stacked mage then i think sorc>tyrant>rest in aoe, except necro is best for very huge trains. honestly i would love to see comparassion with my old party when we had pipiska hero and warpole with that sweet shock blast as a guest. Quote Share this post Link to post
MoDoy 1772 Report post Posted November 6, 2018 On 11/4/2018 at 10:27 PM, Rizos said: gues u dont know what aoe farm tyrant is capable of. maybe @MoDoy has some video of our latest AOE farms. I can tell you some days ago we farmed TOI aoe and we were kiling faster than hero mage pt Edit: tyrant aoe scales VERY WELL with p atk. You get 2x more p atk, you hit almost 2x stronger with AOE. So if you have low geared tyrant and low geared mage then mage kills faster, but if you compare some fully stacked tyrant with fully stacked mage then i think sorc>tyrant>rest in aoe, except necro is best for very huge trains. y, i have both toi AoE (9/10) and ABG AoE frapsed with tyrants, eventho the ABG one is kinda like using cheat codes with the end game gear since the AoE scales with p atk (resulting into 1.7kkk xp splitted for 2 guys in party in like 2h time, pretty good powerleveling considering it was made on ~50-60 lvl chars), in ToI clearing of 1 train takes like 50s and takes like 30% of mp from each tyrant without downtime as you can train 9 -> train 10 -> train 9 and mobs are all the time respawned and as cyane said, over-hit for the win Quote Share this post Link to post
driver 247 Report post Posted November 6, 2018 On 11/4/2018 at 11:27 PM, Rizos said: gues u dont know what aoe farm tyrant is capable of. maybe @MoDoy has some video of our latest AOE farms. I can tell you some days ago we farmed TOI aoe and we were kiling faster than hero mage pt Edit: tyrant aoe scales VERY WELL with p atk. You get 2x more p atk, you hit almost 2x stronger with AOE. So if you have low geared tyrant and low geared mage then mage kills faster, but if you compare some fully stacked tyrant with fully stacked mage then i think sorc>tyrant>rest in aoe, except necro is best for very huge trains. i think if you want to know what is better at aoe, you must compare it at all levels/typs of trains etc and make an avarage. i think mages are much better. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post