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i have nothing against ppl wanting to go to play in innova server, its everyone's choice, the only thing that pisses me is the ones that acording to them already quited this server long ago cus its so bad and so terrible, but instead of just getting tha fuk out, they keep comming here everyday to drop their garbage on the fórum. if you dont want to play here its your choice, no one forces you to stay, but just let the ones who want to play, do it in peace without having to read all the trash talk everyday. ppl still playing here its either ppl who enjoy it (fully functional or not) and believe on the server and believe stuff will get fixed and will have fun here. the ones who left, good ridance and good luck where ever you go. but if you left, or if you dont want to play here, then just dont spit garbage all over.

Introducing an auction house to promote / allow the legal bartering of in game stuff for real money is extremely smart. It is an intelligent way to combat botting and the illegal sale of adena for money, while still allowing people to purchase things for money if they want. This will develop a legal, third-party economy that will help the server grow. People who want to farm for profit are now able to legally, and this farming will in turn help saturate the market with much needed materials and equipment. "This is just gonna make this server even more pay2win!11!!11." Cmon people, L2 is probably one of the least p2w games out there, and getting to the point of really being p2w would cost a person an insane amount of money to the point where I doubt anyone would invest enough to become imba. Let's do a quick calculation: Based on the onslaught of spam I get from adena sellers, it seems like the current rate is $5 per 1kk of adena. Let's say we are looking to OE an Akat Bow so we can p2w many nubs. An Akat is approximately 5kk in today's market, which equates to $25 for an unenchanted Akat. To get it to the safe +3 you'd need 3 EWC. Each one of these is ~1.5kk. 3 of these would cost another $25, roughly. To get a +3'd Akat would cost $50 in money in today's market. Every + beyond that has a 60% chance of success, which means a 40% chance of failure (afaik, if enchanting is the same now as it was back in the day). So, with each enchant, you are risking your entire monetary investment. If you fail, you just wasted a minimum of $50, and every time you succeed, that value increases. You could easily spend $1,000 and end up with nothing but a bunch of crystals from broken weapons. You may also end up with a really nice weapon if you're lucky -- but even so, there is only so much that one player can do in Lineage 2. A +10 Akat is scary, but counts for significantly less in the chaos of sieges or group clan wars. The real threat is not that the game is p2w, but that botters acquire things for free, and so they can acquire imba equipment by paying nothing; THOSE are the people who threaten the server by being imba, NOT people who pay for currency and donations. So, even though I definitely support the idea of the auction house, and definitely don't think it will result in a p2w situation for the server, there are a few things that I would definitely adjust. 1) 50% commission is absurdly high. People are not going to accept selling their items for half the value of the item. At this rate, people will probably still try to back-alley sell their stuff so they don't have to pay such an insanely high commission. The whole usefulness of the auction house, in my opinion, is to open accessibility to items for players, and to combat the third-party economy run by bots; in order for it to actually do this, the commission needs to be lower. I feel like 25% commission is a sensible point, at least for now. 50% commission screams "I want money" at the player base, and that is not the kind of culture that should be embedded in the server. 2) What safeguards are in place to ensure that nothing gets stolen? Right off the bat, I was scared that the page would somehow get hacked and that I would pay money but would receive nothing in return, effectively having someone steal my money. What assurances do the admin provide to ensure that this won't happen? Will I get reimbursed if my money somehow got stolen? There are a few other things that I am skeptical about with regard to the Auction House, but I really gotta take a shi t, so I'll stop here. Overall am definitely excited to see this being introduced. I love L2, but I don't have time like I used to to grind out materials and stuff, so, if executed properly, this will really make my experience on this server much more positive.

guys, just as a reminder, i think when the topic started made this topic was not to know about innova server (he actualy seems well informed about it), but to know whats the plans for development in OUR server. So plz keep it that away or ill be forced to lock the topic. @Richie : We said it before the server started the idea is to follow up the development on Russian classic and study the effect those changes have on players, see how players feel about it and from there take a decision on what we will add here with future updates.

​better wait and play on a proper server with no bugs than play at all. i join this server with excitement with my cp 9 ppl. and we did play as 7+2. my friends quit cause of that. admins said that they will fix and every time they find an excuse to delay it. they made 2-3 announcements that said they will fix it, last date was about 20-21 of november. my friends quit cause of that. 80% of my friendlist quit and will go to innova. i like this server but what do you expect me to do? play solo? no thanks. ​Have fun in Necroworld and get rolled by all russian nolifer clans and plz stop acting like if this server is full of +16 stuff. there is ONE player with a +16 weapon..the rest dont even have +7

Hello. Yes its 1 hour max level.

Las razas están bastante equilibradas, los dagueros y demas melees como Tyrants, Gladis, tiene un daño espectacular, lo q complica en esta versión es que la mayoría farmea en modo Aoe y las partys Warrior escasean pero no quiere decir q no vayas conseguir.! De todas formas estos últimos pueden solear tranquilamente con un arma relativamente decente.- Vas a tener el beneficio de conseguir buenos precios en el mercado ya que el server tiene 2 meses aprox.! Mucha suerte y drops.! Saludos.!

Auction Auction - a system of trade for real money between players. You can buy an item that you recently tried to get but didn't succeeded. Or you can sell all not needed stuff for real money, or put to auction an expensive thing for you, because of a greedy dwarf sitting inside of you. To participate in the bidding at the auction you should have Euro on the balance of your MA. How to get Euro: http://l2classic.club/forum/index.php?/topic/2955-how-to-donate Conditions of participation in the auction Restrictions on trading Detailed instructions how to use the auction Buying lots Selling lots

​Se eu doasse 5 mil não queria ter só uma arma +16... seria o set todo +16 mais joias boss (mesmo nao tendo eu queria ter :P) Ou seja se o cara fez essa ajuda monstro para o server é justo ter no minimo uma arma +16.

- Fixed Queen Ant's drop list and drop groups. Now the list of items dropped per boss should look more like this:   - Fixed Core's drop list and drop groups. Now the list of items dropped per boss should look more like this:   - Fixed Orfen's drop list and drop groups. Now the list of items dropped per boss should look more like this:

Innova/4games is a huge pay-to-win company, just look at their L2/Aion servers, it's fucking trash, so you can expect a shitload of retarded things added on their server, i think it's funny people who say they want to play ''classic'' but will go to Innova Innova won't be anywhere near classic experience. Admins here listen to the community, usually when they try to add something that people dont like they get mass posts on forums and they end up changing things for the better, so i highly doubt we will see these kind of shits here

​1. No es necesario. Yo he subido un tank y a lvl 32 estaba full D. Lo mismo con mi arquera. Los dageros son un mundo aparte, están algo flojos en esta versión de Classic (1.0) 2. Los magos son los que mas rinden en esta versión de L2. Los arqueros mas de lo mismo. Los melees pues bueno, los tyrant no están nada mal, los tanques para PvE son necesarios en muchas ocaciones, etc. En general los melees están algo flojos, pero no quiere decir que sean inútiles o no tengan su funcion en ciertas situaciones. 3. No, ninguna quest es primordial excepto la de cambio de clase (que alguien me corrija si estoy equivocada) 4. No todos donamos obviamente. No se sabe con exactitud cuantos jugadores hay, pero nunca he tenido problema en encontrar party con ninguno de mis personajes y se ven bastantes tiendas en las ciudades principales. Saludos.

Thank you really much for you words. Admins are working hardly in the server for people like you who show his gratitude. Welcome and enjoy the server.

​People are complaining mostly about the party bug, because it is a pain in the ass to lvl in high lvl areas. Aside from that, this is the best server I've played in my life.

ты чем то гордишся?) не вижу ничего. У меня лайф кп, и все одеты по возможности) нормально все и дружно. К чему ты стремишся бегая как шлюшка от одних к другим я не пойму.

​We doing everything that we can do to fix it and trying to fix it as fast as we can. I already gave info why it can't be made faster. ​uve said that 8 player party already works well...u could apply this update atleast since its already a big help

Угроз нету, топик создан лишь для того что б услышать от администрации хоть что нибудь прозрачное. Видимо зря, изменений не будет.

Hola que tal Soy Giancarlo Milano juego desde C1, estoy interesado en jugar con Ustedes recientemente empece y bueno mi pj es un Warrior lvl 20 se que estoy pollo pero Juego full Dedicado tengo TS aviseneme cualquier cosa para estar en contacto Gracias.

No comprendo tanto revuelo para una iniciativa tan buena .

​- Nombre del clan: Argentos ​- Nivel del clan: LVL 3 - Nick del líder: Pompon ​- Jugadores activos integrantes del clan (No se cuenta segundos personajes): 1) Pompon 2) Khaleesi 3) DarkSun 4) Rakim 5) Mels 6) Ale 7) Charla 8) Kaspita 9) Joutte 10) Ria7su 11) Kanario 12) Ragnarok 13) Arenillo 14) India 15) 4 16) ArgCoco 17) Luciernaga 18) AcidoLisergico 19) jeez 20) 2 21) Engelier 22) FuseR 23) Cyane 24) PUPINCHUS 25) Bizcochito 26) Earthquake 27) Slagathor 28) Tirijillo 29) Elixir ​- Reglas básicas: Básicamente ser buena onda, jugamos de forma muy informal. Unico requisito ser argentino, por una cuestión de que nos entendamos perfecto y tengamos más o menos los mismos horarios para jugar. Por ahora da muy buenos resultados, todos los días hacemos party entre casi todos los del clan.