zorgzor

​are we comparing aoba+5 and lance with 2x epics lvl 3? as i said, i dont know your internal cp politics, but its not me who started this discussion, it was one of your cp members what i can say is that u could talk that out with them, and i bet u would either find solution together or not, but u wouldnt look like noob which leaves cp w/o telling single word with those epics If you read topic you will see what its 3lvl orf and 2 lvl aq and i have say on ts that i leave, just thay dont wana hear maby it. but like i say, def on forum uselles, cose thay can say all what thay want. and the same tipitapi (mrprophet) was also stop play month two ago... cose was unactive cp... and now he say abaut me... who never was stoped play but all time was looking for ppl for cp. and abaut mrprophet nobody can say the same. cose he dont find any player... you are forgot abaut it mrpropnet? when you come you see me on ol/wl and taduliz for example and you say no dd,ok i go off... or on siege when we fight all and deff you say fuck i dont need it, yours tactic is useles, and we was withoud any heal.... i can remember lots situation like that... so dont post nothink....

​I think you need go back to primary school and learn to count people and epics.4/9 is not 90 or 99% and Taduliz has only Core 3 lvl but has done much more work for that epic than you did. So than more epics you have than i know.. tadu core, you core, dee orfen and aq. ancord aq and some more 2 and 1 lvl in bank..... its not change nothink guys... if you play abaut items go play, like you say on ts if i dont give back you leave clan... gl i have say true why i leave and i dont see reason why i must give back. if it was when we play all, yes i will give back for cp. but not now when you dont looking for nev ppl, i was speak with lots and take lots, not all can play lots also lots stop play, but still i have do somethink to try hellp this situation in cp from 3+ month to play as team.

​ Defend self on this forum is usseles. you never cry modoy abaut me, when i stop post, and you all time want that i stop post, so i stop now, and like i see you still need me, to spam there self shit posts intresting.... ban is for stole items from acc or some persons, ban for rmt items or some like that. i dont scam or rmt nothink, i dont see reazon for ban ppl who leave party, cose hard to say cp, when there are 3 ppl. like i see nobody intresting why ppl who play 1 year leave... maby cose cp are unactive 3 month. and i dont see any reazon why i must give back epic, which was on me all this time. i dont think i get it cose i have lots posts on forum.... maby cose i have do more than others... but like we know in l2 nobody who leave party / clan is good member... all time this ppl are idiots... cose nobody care how much this person make for clan/cp and how much he get from tham... all like dramas.... ​i have never asked for punishment in form of ban, because as u said, u contributed to those epics as well, however i would still consider them as cp property, but anyway we even wouldnt have proofs for that, however community bashing u for what u did is perfectly fine, and it makes this kind of things happen less, because person who does this will not be able to play normally on this server anymore if everybody knows the truth leaving clan/cp is perfectly fine because of whatever reason, and saying that nobody is good member who leaves clan/cp is pure bullsh1t, i left uchiha cp in september, but i told him directly that i am going to leave your cp, and even stayed with them for 1-2 weeks more until they could find another archer to replace me, and now i am on friendly terms with that cp (they invite me for pvp/pve sometimes, if i need some help with adena/equip they are willing to borrow me and i can be in their TS channel when i want) Так почему же у удалить нить http://l2classic.club/forum/topic/13674-sensational-story-of-zorgzor-scammer~~HEAD=dobj ? Заблокированные - ок, удален - почему? Because the theme - it's continuous insults one person. But insults are prohibited on the forum. ​this happened numerous times on this forum, topic made just to bash 1 person, i dont see problem in that as long as he can say something in that topic as well for his defense ​its ok, i dont want to ban him, but want ppl to be aware that if they invite him into CP, they give him some item, next day he might ignore them and leave with it, and thats perfectly fine to say i bet btw, with that logic i have no idea why uchiha cp considered that xxxGrossxxx scammed them of emi++, didnt the cp give it to him? i think yes, it was his character and he left, he didnt scam anybody, so i guess instead of trolling me, u became delusional hypocrite ^^ From cp i get 1% from items cose all items i buy self. not first but maby secound avadon on server was buyed buy my self for 23eab + 20kk. homk +12 i have buy for self adena, also 2x aobas on over was my which i make for +5, when i was on xwarx i have buy lance, and other chars what i have all items was buy by me. so still if i will be in any other cp i dont need items from that.... cose i make all by self, from spoil, craft sell, and farm.

Phoenix, no, abaut this post looking for cp i dont post, its not my style.... now see guys.... lots of ppl get somethink from cp.. dont forget imxo cp story and epics on imxo char... cose your logic is... if ppl leave party he must give back for who ? for party bank ? We dont have bank who play lots and do lots get it. and what then ? if 90 or 99% members stop play ? one person stay with 10 epics and cant join other cp ? cose he will be scamer ? where is logic ? taduliz have more than 6-7 epics more for 3 ppl.... or you think i take all epics ? no, just what was on me from long time.

​You are just coward lier and thief. Orfen was not always on you it was transmitted between you and Ancord or Dee sometimes Taduliz. You could talk to us for a week time about your opinion, but you just ran away with it, nothing said to any CP member. If i dont ansver you its my decision... i dont see any reason why in forum i must ansver question abaut "why i dont pm you when i leave"... on ts last day i have to say "i dont play with you anymore,play with self"... its was for taduliz(unreal)(misha) cose like all time it was 3 ppl online... if wana personal ansver from me to you, you can all time pm me.

Defend self on this forum is usseles. you never cry modoy abaut me, when i stop post, and you all time want that i stop post, so i stop now, and like i see you still need me, to spam there self shit posts intresting.... ban is for stole items from acc or some persons, ban for rmt items or some like that. i dont scam or rmt nothink, i dont see reazon for ban ppl who leave party, cose hard to say cp, when there are 3 ppl. like i see nobody intresting why ppl who play 1 year leave... maby cose cp are unactive 3 month. and i dont see any reazon why i must give back epic, which was on me all this time. i dont think i get it cose i have lots posts on forum.... maby cose i have do more than others... but like we know in l2 nobody who leave party / clan is good member... all time this ppl are idiots... cose nobody care how much this person make for clan/cp and how much he get from tham... all like dramas....

We dont have bufs there...

​PK more sorcs on aq noob Ofcorss bro like i say we will take aq. And we do it. Gl next time.. bugagagag

​its simple, who has good online all day long. interesting when people will understand that vig ally all the time have more online then perkunas. the last sentence made me laugh quite a bit, especially when u see them dying at ABG against even party numbers, and then coming back with full ally and some more. priceless don't worry thou, even if they won't get epics, at least they will always have their beloved zerg of minions for sieges. i hope that they leveled up a bit from the last giran bridge carnage siege thou, since this weekend there might be some funny surprises :v ​i dont even know if there is sense to prove u something. everyday in abg vig ally are more then perkunas, its a fact. just now vig ally took orfen and aq because were 3-4 times more then us. we dont cry, we play. yestarday was good pvp. dont know who u are, but stop talking bullsh1t like a little child. Cose your ppl pray in aden church every day. All server see tham in aden all day. Cose no exp for enemy.

Someone dont have what to do..

​i thought there must be some bug as well, but when i saw rizos going +9 bop like nothing, i was convinced its not so hard to do that (tho i failed my first enchant on server, bought emi+4 and 2x ewc, broke it on +5 so i had to sell the second enchant for cheaper price than i bought so i can afford akat :< ) ​Fighter weapons always had better rate. It's nothing wrong with 1 +9 bop on the server. It's only 70%^6= 8,23% flat chance even without fake enchant method. I had +8 myself back in c2 days (with fake ench). I dropped top d bow from a mob yesterday with 1\10000 chance - so it's possible. The problem is we have hundreds of oe above +8, especially magical weapons. Flat chance to have demon staff+12 is 0,00105%. for Homa+10 is 0,655%. For emi+14 is 1,38%. Needless to say that's not normal and should be cured. As I said - it is not a new problem and it has a good solution without taking oe weapons from people. Surely the first thing to do - is to check this bug closed (and possible bugs with 2.0 introduction). Otherwise we will have hundreds of SoM+++. And I have to remind the RULES of the server which is obviously violated in this case: 1.3 Take advantage of the server bugs. ​+1 And yes, some classes are getting more advantaje of the overenchanted weapons. Wizzards are range and his m.atk, his damage on hits is afected by the weapon m.atk so higher damage if they have +++ weapon. ​Exactly, I'm not even that much surprised when I see red fighter weapons because even on old servers there's always been that one guy with +16 duals, it's just the way the L2 is. But the problem is how many deep blue mage weapons there are. It's just insane. +11s, +12s, that's a product of mid rate or PvP servers, I would've never expected it on a server that has 'classic' in name and runs the slowest chronicle in Lineage history. There must have been some horrible error along the way, however as for now there's no way to justify taking away these weapons for players. It needs to be solved some other way. I stand by my previous suggestion, as to pimp up the upcoming A grade weapons so the top players eventually move on to them (because the way they are set right now, the +12 top C will stay a better deal). And mind you I'm not member of any large clan so I have 0 chance of laying my hands on A equip so I'm not being biased here. Ask Some admin how Azcc person make 7+ weapons on +12 /+13 and this 7 just we know cose lots ppl buy from him. And how much we dont know its just question for administration.

​its simple, the official servers have such thing as update. u must understand that we play x3 and its more easy to farm and boost, i think its normal that 75 lvl is with C gr weapon +10++. c gr is for 40-51. Wronk. Oficial server is more eassy than this. We dont have exp buster, bufs, enchants in shop and other things which increas stats or rates. We have jist 3x than official. Its not 3x exp. Like i remember oficial was 0,6 exp rate long time ago. And 3x of 0,6 was 1.8 exp. With all busts from off ypu can make the same exp like we.

I dont think nothink. But if you think somethink, you can come with your cp and prove somethink. If we lose v soil cp i will be very happy, cose cp members will have some lesson from fight. Cose now we jusy see pr from all server steal 2 cp v us one cp. Yesterday Es archer full cp with 4 archers come on spot amd try kill us. I was with 300k karmy and still we kill tham all. Just one person die from us.... thay try... maby you will try someday come.....

​Soil's cp !! Oh you are ally P.S You all too serious Ach you say that, cose you wana see my ansver i think we will make one day 9v9 in coloseum just for fan for test skills. ​i think that day will be day when u will disappear from forum for like week, and then appear again like a hero with big talks Why i shut disappear ? Non logic in your ansver...

​on normal server like it was C4 clans who was 40/50+ lvl dont go on siege, cose all lose %, and castle was for strongers ppl, not like we how now, Bizz inv all Meat from server, and thay just rush and take mana from us. thay die and rush more and more times.... no tactic, nothink, just stupid rash, ppl dont care abaut %, if it will be -1 % all will think twise to be like meat... ​I like how half of people think of this is a good thing and the other half think it's a bad thing ​cose 50+ % of zergunas not to go to siege, in daily pvp all they PR.... cose thay enter zergunas with low lvl and dont know what mean war, and just pr, on siege thay not pr cose no % lose,,,, thay cry abaut %.... simply. if we have -1 % on siege low clans stay in towns... cose thay lose 1+ lvl on sieges. and clans with tactic do more than now, cose mp end and nothink posible to do, just inv more ppl to clan, and server win who have more ppl, but not better ppl. ​if we are not at least 200vs250 it doesnt mean we are more. and dont tell sh1t, you are not better, but you are higher lvl. Find cp v cp who win versus us ​Soil's cp !! Oh you are ally P.S You all too serious Ach you say that, cose you wana see my ansver i think we will make one day 9v9 in coloseum just for fan for test skills.

​on normal server like it was C4 clans who was 40/50+ lvl dont go on siege, cose all lose %, and castle was for strongers ppl, not like we how now, Bizz inv all Meat from server, and thay just rush and take mana from us. thay die and rush more and more times.... no tactic, nothink, just stupid rash, ppl dont care abaut %, if it will be -1 % all will think twise to be like meat... ​I like how half of people think of this is a good thing and the other half think it's a bad thing ​cose 50+ % of zergunas not to go to siege, in daily pvp all they PR.... cose thay enter zergunas with low lvl and dont know what mean war, and just pr, on siege thay not pr cose no % lose,,,, thay cry abaut %.... simply. if we have -1 % on siege low clans stay in towns... cose thay lose 1+ lvl on sieges. and clans with tactic do more than now, cose mp end and nothink posible to do, just inv more ppl to clan, and server win who have more ppl, but not better ppl. ​if we are not at least 200vs250 it doesnt mean we are more. and dont tell sh1t, you are not better, but you are higher lvl. Find cp v cp who win versus us

​on normal server like it was C4 clans who was 40/50+ lvl dont go on siege, cose all lose %, and castle was for strongers ppl, not like we how now, Bizz inv all Meat from server, and thay just rush and take mana from us. thay die and rush more and more times.... no tactic, nothink, just stupid rash, ppl dont care abaut %, if it will be -1 % all will think twise to be like meat... ​It's not C4 monkey. At aden u didnt pass to siege zone, u we're diying like a shit. And also u're always talking about pr, but u only one side that pr even in cs, so stfu ​But they didnt betray theire clan to make some epics ​cose pro players make PR for regroup and regen, not like pis of shit die and rush cow... Show me any proofs when i was diying like a shit? Pro players in your opinion doesnt pr in any situation. But u are so many times PRing, so I think u got around 50k mp pull on every your char and u always come with 15mp into pvp ​i dont looking for prove, if wana prove go look movi from some last sieges. when ppl rush on 2 x pots, cose no regroup no buffs. just meat. "Pro players in your opinion doesnt pr in any situation" i think you dont anderstand me, cose i say that pro ppl must pr for regroup or regen. ​yeyeye u need always to regen i got it. And u always dont have any proofs, just lying in every topic. how much we need it not your biznes.

​on normal server like it was C4 clans who was 40/50+ lvl dont go on siege, cose all lose %, and castle was for strongers ppl, not like we how now, Bizz inv all Meat from server, and thay just rush and take mana from us. thay die and rush more and more times.... no tactic, nothink, just stupid rash, ppl dont care abaut %, if it will be -1 % all will think twise to be like meat... ​It's not C4 monkey. At aden u didnt pass to siege zone, u we're diying like a shit. And also u're always talking about pr, but u only one side that pr even in cs, so stfu ​But they didnt betray theire clan to make some epics ​cose pro players make PR for regroup and regen, not like pis of shit die and rush cow... Show me any proofs when i was diying like a shit? Pro players in your opinion doesnt pr in any situation. But u are so many times PRing, so I think u got around 50k mp pull on every your char and u always come with 15mp into pvp ​i dont looking for prove, if wana prove go look movi from some last sieges. when ppl rush on 2 x pots, cose no regroup no buffs. just meat. "Pro players in your opinion doesnt pr in any situation" i think you dont anderstand me, cose i say that pro ppl must pr for regroup or regen.

​thats problem what there is no CD for Resp on flag, and low lvl, its can be 40+ die from 70, resp in 1 sec and run, die and run.... 70 lvl have low mp and cant fight.... he can not die but he cant fight, and its mean that there better have 3 person 50+ than one 75 on siege. in daily pvp this 75 kill 5x 50 lvls and go farm... but on siege thay all time resp. Main mission on siege is take castle, and now think logic. how take castle if two sides put flags near and just resp and run other flag... siege can be 24/7 h and nobody win

​on normal server like it was C4 clans who was 40/50+ lvl dont go on siege, cose all lose %, and castle was for strongers ppl, not like we how now, Bizz inv all Meat from server, and thay just rush and take mana from us. thay die and rush more and more times.... no tactic, nothink, just stupid rash, ppl dont care abaut %, if it will be -1 % all will think twise to be like meat... ​It's not C4 monkey. At aden u didnt pass to siege zone, u we're diying like a shit. And also u're always talking about pr, but u only one side that pr even in cs, so stfu ​But they didnt betray theire clan to make some epics ​cose pro players make PR for regroup and regen, not like pis of shit die and rush cow...

​on normal server like it was C4 clans who was 40/50+ lvl dont go on siege, cose all lose %, and castle was for strongers ppl, not like we how now, Bizz inv all Meat from server, and thay just rush and take mana from us. thay die and rush more and more times.... no tactic, nothink, just stupid rash, ppl dont care abaut %, if it will be -1 % all will think twise to be like meat... ​I like how half of people think of this is a good thing and the other half think it's a bad thing ​cose 50+ % of zergunas not to go to siege, in daily pvp all they PR.... cose thay enter zergunas with low lvl and dont know what mean war, and just pr, on siege thay not pr cose no % lose,,,, thay cry abaut %.... simply. if we have -1 % on siege low clans stay in towns... cose thay lose 1+ lvl on sieges. and clans with tactic do more than now, cose mp end and nothink posible to do, just inv more ppl to clan, and server win who have more ppl, but not better ppl. ​if we are not at least 200vs250 it doesnt mean we are more. and dont tell sh1t, you are not better, but you are higher lvl. ​hight lvl = also better, cose its mean we fight more than you for spots and we win all spots for exp, cose why we can exp more than you

​on normal server like it was C4 clans who was 40/50+ lvl dont go on siege, cose all lose %, and castle was for strongers ppl, not like we how now, Bizz inv all Meat from server, and thay just rush and take mana from us. thay die and rush more and more times.... no tactic, nothink, just stupid rash, ppl dont care abaut %, if it will be -1 % all will think twise to be like meat... ​I like how half of people think of this is a good thing and the other half think it's a bad thing ​cose 50+ % of zergunas not to go to siege, in daily pvp all they PR.... cose thay enter zergunas with low lvl and dont know what mean war, and just pr, on siege thay not pr cose no % lose,,,, thay cry abaut %.... simply. if we have -1 % on siege low clans stay in towns... cose thay lose 1+ lvl on sieges. and clans with tactic do more than now, cose mp end and nothink posible to do, just inv more ppl to clan, and server win who have more ppl, but not better ppl.

​on normal server like it was C4 clans who was 40/50+ lvl dont go on siege, cose all lose %, and castle was for strongers ppl, not like we how now, Bizz inv all Meat from server, and thay just rush and take mana from us. thay die and rush more and more times.... no tactic, nothink, just stupid rash, ppl dont care abaut %, if it will be -1 % all will think twise to be like meat...

​ ​:DD. EtoRaz is Nostradamus? ​like all time rizos post anderstand just he ..... post for shit.. One skill master...

Common bro.. It's not true at all I can not say for all ally but. In our clan was not so manny death and at this siege at Aden vig never killed a lot off us...maybe 5 from our clan on each mass pvp ​​you have long tanque on forum bro... but in game you are piss of shit..... i say for you 100 times. wana some proves or wana show movi how you are pro ? go 9 v 9 or shut up forever