Yomana

​thats how the classes work, at close terrain range like LOA mages are at disadvantage. That has nothing to do with a skill thats supposed to work for ALL classes. Why nerf VR effect then? Answer me this.

its not about dying! Yes its difficult to die from it BUT nukers (archers/mages) lose all cp + some health without taking a single hit. In mass pvp everyone has this buff. Its not like reflect skills that work for some seconds on certain classes, those skills make pvp interesting yes. Imagine a tank with reflect buff + song , i will die on my sorc without him needing to hit me at all. The buff change from old versions was supposed to work together with VR. From the moment VR changed i dont understand why reflect remains the same.

From the moment you changed vampiric rage , i propose to change reflect dmg too. Some days ago i almost died from reflect damage (left with 1000 hp) hitting a bishop who has healing himself until i killed him. He didnt even touch me and i lost 3k hp + cp. If that is balance for you people then ok i dont have a problem. edit: he had freezing skin from the sps he was farming with And im a sorcerer. (just for the info)

no delays today , its fixed

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it doesnt mean much , most of the people that can kill them already have war with them.

Also a lot of people from my clan have lag these days. It happens both on europe and german proxies and random hours.

+16 bow but no necklace , lol

Ok rizos we propably will never agree cause you cant understand what im saying. So forget it. Modoy exactly , thats why i say test first. My point was NCSoft thinks someone should get something doesnt mean you have to implement it. Otherwise why dont we become like Korean server in the first place?

its not every class nerfed and i will give you a small example , a warlord with +12 con in my current lvl 68 can kill me with 2 skills , max 3. Tell me now , is it more important for him the -7 con difference or is it more important for me the -7 wit that im gonna lose? Im not saying nerf Warlords or gladi or tyrant , im saying TEST the changes and if needed change skills for balance. I wont decide whats balanced and whats not from theory. EDIT : Again , i dont understand why you think i said nerf TYRANT. I never talked about tyrant spesifically. I even said im not against adding rush. So idk whats your problem.

​My friend , did you see me suggesting to remove rush from tyrant? I said changes might needed to some skills , CHANGES , not removal. So please stop with your delirium about how nerfed are/will be the classes you play.

Koll you say that tyrants must get it based on Ncsoft logic but, based on Ncsoft logic dyes dont change back to +5. So from the moment that you decided to change the pvp classic system (which dyes obviously play a HUGE role) you propably will have to change some other things too. Now im not against adding rush to tyrant or destro at this time cause i always believe you need to test things to see how they work before claiming that something is bad or overpowered. I just want to point out that more changes might be needed on skills or characters. edit : Add back fear to Sorcerer , all sorc united

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Thanks all we found what we wanted.

Lets not go around asking gms/admin to punish people on forum. They know their job and their rules , they are active and can punish someone if they think its needed. As someone said above, they are the best admins i have seen in my l2 servers all those years. Continue the good work guys.

you don got brain my friend. im Happy, we lost casttle by the perkus and the god hand of vigilance... i saw clearly. they(vigi) finish us and take Soe. leave perkunas alone in giran. so... dont talk me about naranjas when im talking about bananas!. we are not QQ... the cryes here are you.... or in this case, perkunas ... but dont understand why they need vigi help.´... always 120+ ppl on siege.. as vigilance too... we are the side with low ppl log. so..... you have to know little things,, and first of all, look stream, its clearly the movement...What perkunas start in fight, Vigilance Finish, to leave him cast alone. so we dont cry. no need to cry. we are happy, cause 2 side got to be together te beat us,,, while (i repeat) we were 50 ppl. so.... i cant put in word what it's on a video man... and if u are Blind, and dont wanna belive that realitty show on the video.... i dont know what to do... than this post.... and i dont see what you see , and bytheway, Who are you ?? edit: and maybe you as "yomona" (nice elder ) you dont know nothing, and follow orders. from Main Brain. they know all the movements... so you work as a peon so... peon dont talk. only do. good work by the way little peon.. I will start from the bottom. First idk what yomona means in your language but my name is Yomana. Second you can see me on the vid clearly, i was the one with karma when vig attacked you at the start. I was one of the leading members of the only MagicGuild party that was on this Siege. If you wanna believe i was following orders you are free to do it but we acted only as our party wished to do cause we arent even in an alliance with Vigi anymore. Now lets break another lie you say on this post. Vigi side with biggest active than you? Are you serious ? We never had more than 55 people including buffers in CC with Vigi and korea. Now tell me how many you had last siege. Btw where were your korean friends Hwarang this time? We came giran to kill people , soed to rbf and attack again but until we finish you already lost the castle. Kol video show us on gate preparing to leave when UQ return to giran. After that you decided you wanted to attack gludio so we had to leave giran and tp gludio to defend it. I guess we had an agreement with perkunas thats why tried to take dion for Rok and almost succeded in having 2 castles. But nevermind thank god haibara is here to open my eyes , cause i was a peon in a bigger plot that Vig and perkunas agreed to take out UQ. At least im laughing with you people right now , so it was worth it.

My party didnt care who gets giran , we just wanted to kill people and we moved from castle to castle hitting all wars. But now that i see posts like this im happy Uq lost it cause you are delusional and cry babies. You would lose your castle anyway but if that makes you happy blame us for your incopetence. edit: like we need to side with perkunas to kill you, did you see what happened to gludio bridge?

i agree it was good move for servers health , but perkunas take it as betrayal cause they wanted the same thing as they try to do now and that is to recruit many people to own server. There are 3 sides , 2 of them have 50-60 people and perkunas has 100.

give me the money you owe me guys , Taduliz knows you payed us to help you :DDDD BIGGEST cry baby on server. You go around blaming others and gms when you fail.

Εχεις δικιο , το community ειναι ιδιαιτερο. Βεβαια εισαι και εσυ part αυτου οπως ολοι μας. Προφανως και μπορω να πω την γνωμη μου πανω στο θεμα ετσι? Αν εσυ με θεωρεις γλυφτη , μαλακα , ωραιο , η οτιδηποτε δεν με ενδιαφερει κιολας. Το name μου ειναι το ιδιο ingame με εδω και ο καθενας μπορει να βγαλει τα συμπερασματα του για μενα. Καλα να περνας στον σερβερ.

Δεν εβρισες κανεναν η εβρισες αυτον που σε εβρισε? Δηλαδη αν καποιος σκοτωσει μπορω να τον σκοτωσω και ειναι ολα καλα? Οταν σου κανουν κατι το οποιο θεωρεις οτι ειναι ασχημο δεν πας να το κανεις και εσυ. Και πιστεψε με δεν εχω την αναγκη να τους γλειψω καθολου. Δυστηχως για σενα πεφτεις πολυ εξω.

Δεν καταλαβαινω τι κακο σου ειπε. Δεν ειμαι καν μελος τον vigilance αλλα κανεις σαν 5χρονο οντως. Το παιδι σου λεει δεν ξερει τι εγινε , προσπαθει να σε helparei και λεει θα ρωτησει και εσυ καθεσαι και του κλαιγεσαι οτι σε διωξανε. Ασε που λες οτι δεν γουσταρεις παιδακια που μιλανε ετσι και μπαινεις στο φορυμ και βριζεις κανοντας το ιδιο πραγμα ακριβως. Αυτοαναιρεισαι μεσα σε 10 γραμμες Τελος καλο θα ηταν να αφηνεις τον καθενα να διαμορφωνει την δικια του αποψη και οχι να δημιουργεις αρνητικο κλιμα εναντι οποιασδηποτε clan μεσω φορυμ. Αλλο να παρουσιαζεις το τι εγινε σε σενα (οπως και το κανεις) και αλλο να "ενημερωσεις τους νεους player οτι οι vigilance ειναι κακοι". Πιστεψε με καλητερα ο καθενας να βλεπει με τα ματακια του και να ζει τις καταστασεις απο μεσα.

Yes im pretty sure dee never uses bsoe lol..... "dont have ch" , nice excuse but you cant fool people that pvp with you. Maybe newcomers.

You didnt mention this in your previous post. You just made up a new thing to say cause you cant say anything else about the "expensive disadvantage"

​yes, they gonna add mana pots for u ​ I guess it will not be applied for this server + its just another disadvantage if fighters must buy another items to play...just enough that glad/tyrant must buy damn energy stones.. its very heavy (easily you get penalities) and quite expensive... ​rofl man you talk about tyrant/gladi and stones , mages need the same thing to do aoe. Necro needs CB , and others need Spirit ore. I need to leave town with 2k spirit ore if i want to do good aoe on my sorc. Now go and check prices and tell me if its expensive or not......