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unless others he at least tried too find some bug i mean with upcomming 2.0 update on our server "soon" he could have known it, but from now on he will know that l2wiki is not 100% proof for something, that u actually need to check patchnotes as well, if it was not changed in 2.0 (same goes for videos, unless it iis from 1.5 off, u have to check if it wasnt changed in patchnotes)

wow, whats up with salty angry kids, give warpole a break he made video of pvps he enjoyed and won, who cares about condition, ofc not everybody will like it and cóuld u all pls stop reporting and banning ppl on forum for random flames? are u kids playing in sandbox trying to pretend u are offended by words "u have never heard"?

https://translate.google.gr/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=el&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fru.4game.com%2Flineage2classic%2Fplay%2Fsaviors%2F&edit-text=&act=url It established a common duration for the following negative effects: u are using l2wiki, which was updated to 2.0 already, and debuff duration was one of the changes in that update, for 1.5 the times are right u can close the topic

considering saymeowwithme liked san0 reply here, i guess he thought maintanence today was update, and he asked about info what was changed however i might be wrong, and its another topic about 2.0, but i think first one is more plausible, its just hard to guess from topic name/first post

while using skill "summoning mass cubic", if u are close enough to the summons, they are getting the effect of cubic as well, despite having any animation of cubic or cubic skill (so the cubic doesnt/shouldnt exists, but it still has the effect from summoner) tested on warlock 58 using "mass storm cubic" while being hit by WC 63, u can see when animation of cubic triggers on character itself (201 dmg), while later on u see 201 dmg out of nowhere (there is in chat that "felline queen dealt 201 dmg to jeremi", which is the dmg from actual cubic)

ok, so i was browsing a bit some summoner videos, was testing a bit pve on this server and conclusion i came into what ppl expect summon will do when he is trying to hit running target: however this is not IL, this is not H5, this is classic and u can see, that unless the guy stopped moving to make skills, the enemy summon was just following him w/o attacking about the summon still searching for mobs back, i dont really understand whats meant by it, so would be nice if actual summoner would show example of what is the summon doing, however by what i saw in game, the summon is taking RANDOM position to attack mob (sometimes it comes from left, sometimes from right, sometimes from back and sometimes from front), and its behaviour looked to me pretty similar to this guys summon

​stun shot never crits and double shot has it in description if u want to know about archer skills also maybe u wanna check FC? i think it should never crit but, but, u know the rest​ FC never crit???? PFFF Once I got dmg from PR 4200 from that skill and I was not nacked..... and sure PR was 100% hp cos I don't even hit him once it was just one shot..... Don't tell me about lvl diffrence I was 70+ as wel as he is probably about 72 and still when i have 650 P def 4200 dmg OMG... gladi don't crit me so much with critical triple sonic slash.... Check pls FC according to the l2wiki it has to have only Overhit nothing about critical hit ​i hope this is sarcastic, but i give u +1 for checking l2wiki and official how it works, it should never crit!

​since when flame topics are supposed to be 1 sided? if u want to flame other side, get ready for counter attack i guess?

I'm not expert here but I think there is no magic spell/nuke description that specifies critic chance neither. I always assumed any skill have a chance of critical by default and skill descriptions were just poorly written. Anyways, it's a bit sad for destroyers, since, I think (I don't play destro), this leaves almost all their skills without critical. Have this been tested in ALL classes? ​mage skills dont have critical in description by default, they never had, and now on classic even DoT debuffs can crit (even if its not in description), but its was showed it works like that on officlal on 90% i am sure i tested all skills on warriors, also archer skills dont crit except double shot (which is right) and FC (which shouldnt), and dagger skills (tested deadly blow, mortal blow, sting) and yeah, atm destroyer doesnt have any skill which crits, but having 3 fast casted skill being able to crit for 3-4k was pretty imba If that's how it's supposed to work ok, but I have to disagree on the destro "balance". Mostly because he is slow and lacks of any ranged attack and, with this change, the only AoE attack it has won't crit anymore... Tyrant, for example, sports the -IWin- Punch of Doom (maybe the highest damage skill?) that can even crit and 2 AoE skills (one ranged ) both with chance of crit... Anyways, I just wanted to know the reason for this changes, not discussing balance... Lineage2 was never a balanced game anyways ​tyrant can be debuffed most of the time (except the time he has zealot), while destro has lion heart (80% resistance to certain debuffs) and guts (60% to all debuffs) and also zealot, if played correctly u can stack 5 mins of debuff resistance on him, which makes him really annoying class on the other hand tyrant was always considered more of assassin than warrior imo, which can burst u down really fast and is more versatile

I'm not expert here but I think there is no magic spell/nuke description that specifies critic chance neither. I always assumed any skill have a chance of critical by default and skill descriptions were just poorly written. Anyways, it's a bit sad for destroyers, since, I think (I don't play destro), this leaves almost all their skills without critical. Have this been tested in ALL classes? ​mage skills dont have critical in description by default, they never had, and now on classic even DoT debuffs can crit (even if its not in description), but its was showed it works like that on officlal on 90% i am sure i tested all skills on warriors, also archer skills dont crit except double shot (which is right) and FC (which shouldnt), and dagger skills (tested deadly blow, mortal blow, sting) and yeah, atm destroyer doesnt have any skill which crits, but having 3 fast casted skill being able to crit for 3-4k was pretty imba

not even taking the bot room, hoho now srsly, are u comparing xp of perfect AoE setup (2x necro, WL, tank, sorceror, OL with full support) vs sws+tyrant+dagger+OL and bish w/o recharger who tries to dekarma (not even xp)? pretty pathetic next time compare your aoe loa vs EV train pls, will be interesting video

​yeah, he had different nick on discord, thats the thing i couldnt really know, if he was there, he knows we actually tested several things

​what half job? i took warrior classes, and tested every single skill they had, where do u see half job? maybe u missed i am just another player, same like u, what i do tho is when i see something suspicious, i take my time, search for videos from official, test things here, compare and report if its bugged, maybe thats why i am also low lvl, but i doubt u know how long something like this can take if u feel like this is half done, u can go research other classes u dont play as well and show us how to do it, i will be just glad (not pun intended) if someone else will try actively find bugs, but proper way, not "QQ this sure cannto work like this, pls nerf"

​stun shot never crits and double shot has it in description if u want to know about archer skills also maybe u wanna check FC? i think it should never crit but, but, u know the rest

​Yeah and some random dumb shit talked about his th/archer the whole time ​were u even there? coz except me, rizos, san0 and one actual summoner (i forgot name on discord, sorry), nobody else showed up, and while rizos spammed on discord about his bullsh1t, we were actually testing things on the test server, and we fixed several things which were actually bugged could give less sh1t about your "bugs", give me actual proof it shouldnt work like that with summon hitting kiting target, oh, u probably wont, because thats how it works on official also, so pls, stop calling >>>>>BUUUUUUUUUGG<<<<<<<< everything u dont find convenient on summoner, or how they worked on previous chronicles, coz this isnt your lovely H5 or something, to stop target which is kiting u, summoners have their cubics, gameplay changed for lot of classes, so either deal with it or shut up with your QQ pls ​It's fun u come here and atack with bla bla bla (this is how we do). But i never had a answer from any GM about what are u talking. So please, just stop with your stupid hate, cause no one have time for it. ​whole quote was for gfbot, not even single sentence was meant to offend u

​You realize the official CLASSIC servers have buff retaining scrolls and noble buff at castle NPC? Why are you spamming "this is CLASSIC" when we are a private server based off the OFFICIAL CLASSIC servers? If you want CLASSIC so much you should be +1 for these real CLASSIC changes ​thing is, wouldnt u consider adding nbls buff scroll to in game shop for CoL as pay2win feature?

​http://l2classic.club/forum/topic/13754-warrior-critical-skills/?page=1 ​more

​Oh boy i cant hold wihtouth quites. Top is 100 people. 100/3 is 33 people. 33 people is 3 parties and 6 ppl. Just wtf bro ? ​3 to 1 the way u count, u need to split it to 4 parts, not 3, but even then when someone says 3 to 1 advantage, he means for every 3 chars u have, we have 1 (idk if its true or not, i dont really care), so for example if u have 30 ppl in top 100, that would mean we have 10 about pvps, i am really sad that someone with 16k HP+CP pool can make dmg with aoe skill much better than my archer, with such a low reuse, but i guess thats game what i can say is that at money room pvp, we were hella boxed ( i guess u noticed and thats why u didnt put it), but we got 2 more active ppl and said "hey, lets try to go pvp with them again", and we managed to kill some of your guys eventho we were rebuffing at that moment, which was our bad, however after that we said "lets try it again, maybe we can do better this time", but we got smashed once again, coz archer were so squishy and this warrior crits hurts a lot, but at least we didnt give up or PRed in those fights ^^ also the later 2 pt vs 2 pt was more enjoyable by me, but i guess that will appear in some of our videos still, keep up posting pvp videos, its always good for server to see different kind of PoVs from different sides, at least its not same class all over again

​it actually works same with mobs here, eventho u see them right behind u where they could possibly attack, they never do, unless u stop running for a second, if u tried to do that in other chronicles, u would get hit every single time

​Yeah and some random dumb shit talked about his th/archer the whole time ​were u even there? coz except me, rizos, san0 and one actual summoner (i forgot name on discord, sorry), nobody else showed up, and while rizos spammed on discord about his bullsh1t, we were actually testing things on the test server, and we fixed several things which were actually bugged could give less sh1t about your "bugs", give me actual proof it shouldnt work like that with summon hitting kiting target, oh, u probably wont, because thats how it works on official also, so pls, stop calling >>>>>BUUUUUUUUUGG<<<<<<<< everything u dont find convenient on summoner, or how they worked on previous chronicles, coz this isnt your lovely H5 or something, to stop target which is kiting u, summoners have their cubics, gameplay changed for lot of classes, so either deal with it or shut up with your QQ pls

all of this is pretty much bullsh1t, but i will comment on the 1. whoever cries this server has no low lvl population clearly didnt go even up to 20, coz in last 4 days i checked EV in the LATE hours (always around midnight-1 AM), every single spot (by every i mean freaking every, even the most deepest thing was taken) by randoms, top spots were taken by random pts and now yes, maybe some were bots, but most of them were live ppl which tried to kill my karma character and i believe its no different in some good spots pre-40 lvl, that u cannot find guys to play with if u try, ppl are just freaking lazy and want everything to be done instantly for free

i dont think first thing is bug, running target is really hard to autoattack (this works even with players, even if u are faster than the running target, if u spam just auto attack it will pretty much never auto attack, or rarely if the speed difference is quite big, u always have to run in to the same place where is target, and then u can use skill / autoattack), however that option is not avaible for summon, to run to some wanted place in front, and thats why it barely hits moving targets

​gotta mix that sealed gloves and helmet with my over enchanted PL set, who needs unsealing

​and as far as i remember, there were some fixes (increase of speed of summons) and some revealed mysteries (a.k.a. summon going back after some distance)

​most of the scrolls have their counter part, so if u get fighter scroll on mage, u can exchange it vampiric rage was working on every auto attack, every skill, be it ranged or melee, so it didnt really need counter scroll for exchange, coz everybody could profit from it, however since the change of it, only melees can profit from it, thus being it totally useless for archers and mages ​"u can exchange it" - Do U mean at Nostalgia? Or sell it on the market? If you mean trading with other ppl - this could bring us to endless unfair things of the l2. ​ofc i mean nostalgia, thaats also in the title of topic