BeNicePls
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idk how it works after lvl 60, but both daggers and spoil/warsmith have dagger/blunt mastery, which pretty much allows them to spam kills during farming, so idk if their xp is that extremely slower, i wonder if someone tried to solo xp dagger with stigma on his back, maybe he could pull nice xp/buff, definitely worth testing
With all my respect Modoy, dont feel offense.
if you died a bit because "archer can go/is wellcome in aoe xp farm",i completely rofl for some minuts with this. Na, kidding, no problem, just for the fun.
all comments/info are wellcome, thanks for saying this, but it doesnt worth.
Reasons, you have to wait for dagger mastery spam, and anyway the bonus is crap.
you spam 7 skills and u get no mana. and the xp bost is from getting 52k xp, to get 56k xp, if you could check, you could see that isnt working.
You say about stigma each mob, you are old player with high lvl char, you know about how many mobs we have to kill to make lvl 70+.
Lets talk about 1 DD + 1 buffer box.
Are we comparing debuff stigma on each mob(imagine if you just have 1 pc and you have SE on other client ...), not talking about SE doesnt have haste, berseker
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just pp buffs on archer each 20 minuts
and how fast xp each one of them?
muahahhahahahahahWe keep talking.
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I think rogues should stay in the same group (Archer/dagger) but the aoe fighers like tyrant,gladi etc have their own group
(I go to say my opinion, no problem fishfood)
Ok, so i make an Archer and after i change to dagger. do you think this is fair?
Archer:
900 Range, bow passive, rapid shot lvl 2.
You can solo easy with a prophet,
You dont have to move continuosly to hit mobs like a dagger because u have 900 range.
Mobs dont touch you or almost dont touch, so with few hp pots u can farm easy. You can go pl set, +12str-15con dyes, low p.def from pl set no matters so much since u wont take many hits from mobs.
Archer is wellcome in AOE parties, since he can hit with AOE Skill, isnt a big machine of AOE Xp but is helpfull, more than daggers.
Dagger:
700 Range, bow passive till lvl 35 ( crap ), rapid shot lvl 1. to much worse than archer.
If you go Melee set up, u need VR buff or tons of hp pots, (If you go with SE Buffer, u dont have Berseker, you can get haste from pots but u need $$. Not like Archer + PP). If you go with SE + PP, you are needing 1 more buffer box than Archer + pp.
Very Hardly can farm with pl set at higher lvls, u need heavy set (so you loose +4str from pl set, archer doesnt).
If you go +12 str -15 con dyes to kill faster and go same xp dyes set up to try get so faster xp like archer can get, well, tell me when game arrive the moment when you visite Doom Knights or some mobs than stun, debuff like this ones. You are continuosly getting hits from mobs since ur first hit since you are on melee set up, so you are exposed to debuffs like stun faster than archer, so to much exposed to get delay of stun/debuffs, more chance of dead, slower xp.
So +str -con dyes set up + melee = slower xp than archer.
And most important of all, these lines from here up that can seem little thing, are translated in tons of hours / days / ... of difference in the game with respect to an archer to get same lvl.
Irony ON. Ok, lets try build a fair world with these fair choices. Archer and daggers in same group. Irony OFF
@fishfood you can discuss, i am waiting ur argues, if u say something, thats based in some facts, thoughts, reasons, ...
Can you tell us ?
Sorry for my english.
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To be 100% fair, dagger should be not able to roll from any class. Why? Bcoz daggers dont farm aoe parties, and any other class does, so thereotically even 1st or 2nd tier should be not able to roll to dagger, bcoz they farm faster.
Other side, why warrior cant roll into tank/sws/bd they farm the same way, in same parties.
About mages it should be clear, they re aoe queens, even way easier soloers than warriors, even if they lose mana. U pick easy way - u deal with it.
Yet Rizos idea is worth to take look at. But it would work till like 65 lvl, past 65 lvl farm is starting to be pain, and i doubt anybody for example lvl 70 will sacrifice 2-7 lvl to roll. But i like this idea anyway.+1
Imo Daggers class should stay in a solo group, not even with archers, archers can solo xp to much better than daggers and archers can go inside AOE parties helping with aoe hits skill, Daggers can not.
Daggers should be like Spoiler/Warmisth, you can change to other classes but u can not change to dagger from other classes. Because any other class (besides spoiler/crafter) is easier or to much easier to xp than dagger.
+1 for the idea of changing class from group 6 to 5, 5 to 4, ...
I like that idea about jumping from lvl 6 group to lvl 5 with a XP Cost, but the xp cost should be not low. Should be very big and maybe with some caps that Admins should study to make the best way.
I wish the best to Admins, they have the luck, the knownledge, the fairplay, ... all the needed to choose the best option/s about this suggestion we are discussing.GL, HF.
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ALWAYS SAME QUESTION, ALWAYS SAME ANSWER
WHAT CLASS PLAY? THE CLASS U MOST LIKE
END OF HISTORY.
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Hey, how about a X-Mas tree with xp buff?
for everyone to take in giran harbor for exampleWith 5% xp bonus for lvls 1-45
3% xp bonus for lvls 46-65
1.5% xp bonus for lvl 66-76
or something like that, is christmas, relatively soon we will have 2.0 and lvl cap will be 80 or more, so still will need lot of farm to get lvl 77, 78, 79, 80, ....
So i think isnt so big problem getting a small xp bonus.
I am high lvl and old player and i am asking for higher xp bonus for newcomers to make server even bigger or keep being so good like it is.
See you.
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I offer Eminence +13 + 150kk for Emi +14, send me private message here in forum. thanks.
This goes for anyone, not only for Haxor.
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Its actually easier to level up an archer/dagger now than any other class, cause you can just spam raid bosses.
lel
Talking crap is free, thanks for proving it, but we already knew it.
How many Raids did you see between lvls 63-76? How many of them killable in a reasonable time? well, yes, now you get that you didnt think much before opening that mouth or shoting these fingers on the keyboard.
No problem, we are humans.
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Soil, littel kid, can you get it now ?
Being so proud of the people you kill and your videos when isnt about your skill, it is about how your char is, with the stun and the huge damage, hp, cp, 1 minut resist shock, debuffs, 30 secs dash/30 secs reuse, ue, ...
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MoDoy where did you get these drugs? are realy good. Share please.
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Hello. This post is about Class change system
At the moment, the fourth group is formed as follows
Fourth group classes:
Warlord
Gladiator
Treasure Hunter
Hawkeye
Plainswalker
Silver Ranger
Abyss Walker
Phantom Ranger
Destroyer
TyrantBut i think that is unfair for archers, and specially for daggers.
Their capabilities for AoE, which is the most efficient system for leveling we know, are inferior or non-existent when compared to warriors.The clearest cases are Phantom Ranger and dagger classes, since they dont have ANY Aoe skills. Hawkeye and Silver ranger have, but are less efficient than Warriors.
This means that those dd classes that cant offer a decent or any aoe damage, are not required on cps, or less accepted on groups/clans. I havent seen any post recruiting dagger classes because of this, and no random group that requires them for AoE pve.
So they have to solo, or look for parties that kills mobs 1 by 1. And thats a big disadvantage in this chronicle. Specially for daggers, since they are fragile meles, and the fact that evasion sucks doesnt help anything. They require, more than any other fighter, someone else to absorb damage for them or a healer. But still, they are the least efficient fighters for soloing. Even less efficient than archers.
I suggest that the groups should be as follows:Fourth group (only rogues)
Treasure Hunter
Hawkeye
Plainswalker
Silver Ranger
Abbys Walker
Phantom RangerFifth group classes: (only warriors)
Warlord
Gladiator
Destroyer
TyrantSixth group:
Spellhowler
Sorcerer
Necromancer
SpellsingerI ask you to consider the following
1) Do you think it is fair that a dagger, who has broke his ass soloing all this time and that has been rejected from pve parties because of not having anything to offer, can be in the same category off a Warlord, Destroyer, Gladiator? I dont think so...
2) Do you think that all dagger classes should change to warrior to lvl up faster? You can not doubt about warriors having an advantage in this matter.If we dont change the system, the most logic step would be to change to warrior (if you are a dagger) to lvl up much faster. Im against it, because it affects even more the variety of classes, the extremly low population of dagger classes. But most of all, im against it because i think it is unfair that warrior classes, with all this advantages they had until now, will endup being more leveled daggers on olympiads than the real daggers of classic: those who have played and learned to accept them with all the limitations they had on pvp all the way through since 1.0.
Thks
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I wanna see how many people with reroll to dagger after 2.0 when they will have shadow step. Biggest unfair of class change service ever , having warlords and gladis in same tier as daggers...............
yes, +1, xp dagger is harder than xp warlord, tyrant, archer, tank ...
they should stay in diferent group, 1 more group to class change between the 2nd and 3rd with all the daggers there.
Like it is now is NOT fair.
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kids fighting in forum and offtopic-ing post. Forum need an or more administrator/s.
shame at ur years guys!
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Doom set +6
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Aaaaah, Ty Modoy, ty Rizos for the explication.
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Doom set +6
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GL
No need people wishing me luck on this. If you have 1 bil you buy it, if you don't have it's fine, if you think you can make a set +6 with 1 bil try for it. Im not looking for spammers.
But guy, 1 billion = 1.000.000.000.000 adena lol muahahahhahaha
If 1.000.000.000 = 1.000 kk is already a good amount of adena, u are asking 1.000 times that amount
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nothing to fix, it works just fine
on video u showed olympiad movie, u will be able to de-hide dagger like that even here, and its because its "combat" zone, where u dont have to be flagged to fight
to put simply, u cannot aoe dagger in hide in normal pvp because he is not flagged, thus he cannot get AoE-ed, same like most of WL skills dont affect unflagged ppl, ANY AoE works like that, and since dagger is in hide, there is no way u could do target AoE on him
+1 well said
time 2.25 look plz
what? He did aura flash to do dmg on him, but its not said he interrupted his Hide, bcoz he used backstab so he interupted that himself.
+1 well said
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What i suggest, implement both systems, old and new one. Old gives more rewards than new one.
We want fishing. Definite yes on that. I need something to do while waiting for party finder to complete the party.
I also find this idea for both fishing systems very nice.
- New one would be auto with some small rewards (i.e: little XP and less pocf)
- Old one would give more rewards (i.e: decent XP for lvl 60 or lower and full rewards like pocf,recipes,consumables)
If to implement both systems is hard/impossible, then I would have to go for automatic one (sadly) so i can exp while at work or sleeping to catch up top lvls.
No no omg, no decent xp by old fishiing way. If u want xp, make party or go solo out of ur cave, this is a game about war, clans, fight, ... isnt a fishing game or stayintown game.
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- Adjusted drop from the monster in Forest of Evil location.
- Adjusted adena drop for Lava Wyrm.
- Fixed drop from Raid Boss Pan Dryad.
- Refined Orfen Earring mana drain effect slightly tuned down. It shall not interfere with the AOE farming process tho it will provide less advantages to the solo players killing monsters 1 by 1.
Hi guys,
Well, that it had been "slightly tuned down" and that it doesnt interfere with "Aoe farming process", not means that it works like it should works.
I mean, if it gives 100% chance of 3% mp recover from hitting on 1 target, thats not working like it should if i am not wrong. Because description says "has chance".
So the question is, is it working like it should ? like it works on retail? is diferent? what is diferent? what chance + - ?
Thanks.
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How you wana make balance pp v glad for example guys ? Lineage never will be balanced cose its team play game not sollo. And in some situation glad is better for 1 v1 in other wl is better cose glad cant come to close of enemy, but wl can stun i range and than glad will rush. When admins chance one of this chars all system for team pvp is broken.For ppl who say delete orfen, i can say delete l2 and think what you say. Clans fight for it one year and you say delete it. Or maby you wana play on server with 100 online ?
Still didnt see anyone had said "delete orfen", i said delete or take out of game orfen lvl 3, or his bonus if it is working like it should and it is so unbalance and is giving some people so big advantage. U still can farm it and keep them, make them lvl 2, and keep them till they work like they must work. I think it is more fine.
and about your comment "clans fight for orfen and maybe you wanna play on server with 100 online".
Do u realy think what u say before opening that mouth? or u just bam bam, shoot what from ur heart go out?
Why do u think server would go 100 people on if they would take out the bugged orfen lvl 3 bonus from the game?Clans fight for it one year, can you explain it a bit better? u get war on the 100% of the orfens? or just 90% ? 50% ? 1/4 ? (I think ur war isnt caring/fighting epics so much like it looks u say) and even if u are getting war on the 100% of the orfens, can you tell us why u says like being 100% sure, server would go 100 people online if orfen lvl 3 bonus was take out? anyone would still care about orfen because it will be very good jewlery when it would be fixed, so i dont see ur comment has any kind of sense.
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benicepls...
Did u take in consideration that just 1 out of 5 mobs are turning blue (and that's me being generous) and just 1 out of 10 of those blue mobs are actually giving something?
Thank you for wasting your time with those equations.... but it is what it is: a total waste of time. What you think is not what actually happens in reality. If you want facts, get out there and start spoiling. You will see that I'm right. So the spoil is broken.
And no, I didn't kill only 490 mobs. You might as well triple that.
Mob turns blue at the end when mob was succesfully spoiled and the chance of getting some item from the spoil list was succesfull too. Or this is how it should work.
Like chance to get bone arrrow recipe is 0,3%, this means u should get 1 blue mob each 3 +-.
Well, u can get 2 blue mobs in a row or more and after a row of 0 mobs in 5-6. because this is how luck works is a chance, it is random.
Other thing is, spoiler learn spoil lvl 4 at lvl 36 if i am not wrong.
Well, if u are spoiling lvl 35-36 mobs or similar still with lvl 3 spoil skill from lvl 28, ofc, u have more chances of failing spoil skill success.
I am in a hurry, we keep talking.
see you after.
Turak Bugbear is lvl 31 so it's within the ideal limits for spoiling.
Nevermind.You can (copy paste from other sites) throw numbers all day but you still can't prove nothing. Mathematics got nothing to do in this case.
I'm still hoping for someone from the dev team to take a look into this.
What we are talking about isnt only mathematics, is "statistic".
Do u have some idea about it? do you have study it ?
And one more thing, isnt like we have to prove nothing,
U must prove that it doesnt work, if u are telling it doesnt. You, not dev team.
and another small point, ofc if skill is from lvl 28 and u are using it on lvl 31, it can fail with a bit bigger chance.
I am not sure 100% but i guess and for me is very logic, that dev team can not stay working, wasting time in showing to people, prove to people like u, that they are mistaken.
I think they can not stay showing others they are mistaken on each small or big thing they say it is not working like it should.
Is logic think that people, saying something is not working like it should work, should show videos and show tests to prove what they say.
muahahhahahahahah
Suggestion: Separating the fourth group into two different groups
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Why ? why it would be too much if we split in more groups? Whats the problem? can you tell me? And tell me why it isnt more fair if we split in groups with a reasonable splitting by how hard XP are the classes.
Quoted Baluu and changed a bit like i think it should be, by how hard xp is each class.
I gave in this thread many logical and reasonable reasons to separate the group.
I am still waiting for reasonable reasons to dont do it.