Dagger Mastery

[Gambits 2]

With an auto attack, the knives do not crash (trigger) the dagger master which allows you to use skills with a lower chance for 2-3 seconds, while the dwarves have the skill blunt of the master, swinging the dagger with another healer would not say that it is easy skills in a monster and mp 0, to beat only with a hand for 50-70 damage .. this is very difficult, can this skill be added?

Edited January 20, 2020 by Gambits

[MoDoy 1769]

it cant, it was here in before and it was removed coz its not classic, and i doubt any1 would encourage this idea now when daggers got some powerlevel and are not trash tier anymore

[Gambits 2]

This is strange, I can hit 8 times and I don’t have mana for skills, the dwarf beats with the same force while stunning me, and even with a blunt master does not spend 70 mana on it but 15 ... it's terrible

[Anytime 556]

but dwarfs dosent have hide ^^

Edited January 21, 2020 by Anytime

[MoDoy 1769]

3 minutes ago, Anytime said:

but dwarfs dosent have hide ^^

but daggers dont have cancel or summon (whats kind of argument is that :d)

[Gambits 2]

You understand that the damage from an auto attack of a bow of a gnome destroyer goes to 700-3500 damage.
My damage with a dagger from my hand goes to 50-70 crit damage 250-300 and with a dagger master I can give skill for 800 damage, is it so bad *?

[MoDoy 1769]

34 minutes ago, Gambits said:

You understand that the damage from an auto attack of a bow of a gnome destroyer goes to 700-3500 damage.
My damage with a dagger from my hand goes to 50-70 crit damage 250-300 and with a dagger master I can give skill for 800 damage, is it so bad *?

yes, just because you can give skill for 800 damage does not mean other daggers cannot give skill for 5000

also i would also like to play this gnome destroyer which specialises in bow usage, any idea how to get that class change?

[YipMan 319]

8 minutes ago, MoDoy said:

yes, just because you can give skill for 800 damage does not mean other daggers cannot give skill for 5000

also i would also like to play this gnome destroyer which specialises in bow usage, any idea how to get that class change?

WTB hawkranger with shield mastery

[Gambits 2]

In order for the dagger to give damage to 5.000, as you put it, there should be an epic ring 13 super odd and level 78-80 ... only where does the dagger master, it does not give you any bonus to damage

[Gambits 2]

10 minutes ago, MoDoy said:

да, только то, что вы можете дать навык за 800 урона, не означает, что другие кинжалы не могут дать навык за 5000

также я хотел бы сыграть в этого  разрушителя гномов, который специализируется на  использовании лука , есть идеи, как добиться такого изменения класса?

I just listed the classes
That there are 15-18 classes in which the basic damage from an auto attack is greater than that of a dagger and it sways easier for them.

[Gambits 2]

2 minutes ago, YipMan said:

WTB Hawkranger с мастерством щита

I can write in Russian if you learned this language, then my phrases will be more literate

[Gambits 2]

Did you know that the knife as a weapon has the lowest auto attack rate from the hand, and when wearing light armor and close combat, it is very difficult for them to swing.

[Gambits 2]

And yes, since you affected pvp
let's get my level 60 dagger
And I'll take any other physical class
Gladiator
Destroyer
Turant
Gnome
Tank
Warlord
ANYWHERE ... and I'm ready to bet on anything; for a dagger you lose to me all 10\10 fights

[YipMan 319]

6 minutes ago, Gambits said:

In order for the dagger to give damage to 5.000, as you put it, there should be an epic ring 13 super odd and level 78-80 ... only where does the dagger master, it does not give you any bonus to damage

nop then they can make 10k on stab easy xd 

#Daggerstoweak

[MoDoy 1769]

5 minutes ago, Gambits said:

Did you know that the knife as a weapon has the lowest auto attack rate from the hand, and when wearing light armor and close combat, it is very difficult for them to swing.

did you know that dagger has actually the best general DPS of all weapons? the more you know  

1 minute ago, Gambits said:

And yes, since you affected pvp
let's get my level 60 dagger
And I'll take any other physical class
Gladiator
Destroyer
Turant
Gnome
Tank
Warlord
ANYWHERE ... and I'm ready to bet on anything; for a dagger you lose to me all 10\10 fights

make it as olympiad match and i am in for it, i am pretty sure i will win more fights as dagger vs any of those classes you mentioned  wouldnt be first time doing something people considered impossible (i am looking at you myrciu, stating archer cannot win gladiator in closed space area :d )

[Reddish 258]

25 minutes ago, Gambits said:

And yes, since you affected pvp
let's get my level 60 dagger
And I'll take any other physical class
Gladiator
Destroyer
Turant
Gnome
Tank
Warlord
ANYWHERE ... and I'm ready to bet on anything; for a dagger you lose to me all 10\10 fights

Я год играю на ТХ здесь, еще 4 месяца назад этот класс реально был бессмысленным, меня выносили вперед рогами любые другие. Но сейчас, на этой версии патча был получен приличный буст в дамаге и работе скиллов и я тебе скажу.. Все реально. Просто даггер требует чуть больше мастерства в среднем, нежели любые другие классы. Он имеет смои осбенности, нельзя к примеру получать контроль от врага (стан или рут считай 100% смерть), но если научиться их избегать - ты будешь побеждать.
Удачи и терпения тебе в этом непростом пути;)

Edited January 21, 2020 by Reddish

[Rizos 1487]

1 hour ago, Reddish said:

Я год играю на ТХ здесь, еще 4 месяца назад этот класс реально был бессмысленным, меня выносили вперед рогами любые другие. Но сейчас, на этой версии патча был получен приличный буст в дамаге и работе скиллов и я тебе скажу.. Все реально. Просто даггер требует чуть больше мастерства в среднем, нежели любые другие классы. Он имеет смои осбенности, нельзя к примеру получать контроль от врага (стан или рут считай 100% смерть), но если научиться их избегать - ты будешь побеждать.
Удачи и терпения тебе в этом непростом пути;)

Also important to note 60 dagger is garbage, daggers get strong after 3rd class. Just exp, get focus death or othel super rune and full bufki and it will be much better

[Gambits 2]

I know this, but a person says that at levels 40-65 he will kill something there)

[Reddish 258]

This person talks mainly about olympiad strategies, and yes - it's doable there, so I totally agree, at any lvl he can outkill gladiator or any class with any dagger, but he talks knowing he perfectly uses talics, he has any kind of equipment boosts he needs...Daily is daily, totally different story where u aint prepared, and it's aint chess already cuz of many factors..

And as Rizos mentioned, get the balls end exp hard - this is the only way to success here, even I can kill ppl barely knowing how to, just becuz I have lvl and decent buff.

[MoDoy 1769]

1 hour ago, Reddish said:

This person talks mainly about olympiad strategies, and yes - it's doable there, so I totally agree, at any lvl he can outkill gladiator or any class with any dagger, but he talks knowing he perfectly uses talics, he has any kind of equipment boosts he needs...Daily is daily, totally different story where u aint prepared, and it's aint chess already cuz of many factors..

And as Rizos mentioned, get the balls end exp hard - this is the only way to success here, even I can kill ppl barely knowing how to, just becuz I have lvl and decent buff.

yes, thats true, but the creator of this topic also talks about exact scenario he made up

fully undergeared, solo and poopy levels

i am pretty sure dagger is doing just fine if you play in party, have decent gear and you fight vs same lvl

i am sorry guys to burst your bubble guys, but daggers are no longer solo classes like back in the interlude, when you rolled TH and went to have fun 1vs3, if you decide to go solo you will get wrecked by any reasonable class which is played by person with at least 1 hand, dagger needs full support to be at least slightly efficient, so if you want to play dagger, you either deal with it or you just buy tons of bsoes and do it nrolla style to kill 1 afk box and then fast bsoe

[Anytime 556]

8 hours ago, MoDoy said:

but daggers dont have cancel or summon (whats kind of argument is that :d)

obviously i was trolling ...

[Destabilomaterializacja 158]

7 hours ago, YipMan said:

WTB hawkranger with shield mastery

WHAT? WHAT? They dont have ?  WTF if i'll ever play haŁkrendżer shield+ all time!!!

[Gambits 2]

3 часа назад Модой сказал:

это правда, но он создал

полностью прокачанные, сольные и корявые уровни

Я почти уверен, что все в порядке, если вы играете на вечеринке.

Я думаю, ребята, что у меня есть все, что нужно, чтобы уйти в одиночку, когда вы решите пойти в одиночку. И если бы у вас была возможность сыграть с ним, то вы просто хотите купить тонны и сделать это в стиле nrolla, чтобы убить 1 ящик. афка. а потом быстро бсое

Лид кидать в пример пати фишера, когда его пати было 45-50 а у врагов пати 38-42лвл это успех)

 

 

at high levels we can all

Edited January 21, 2020 by Gambits

[MoDoy 1769]

1 hour ago, Gambits said:

Лид кидать в пример пати фишера, когда его пати было 45-50 а у врагов пати 38-42лвл это успех)

at high levels we can all

yeah, right, his enemies are 38-42 for sure, especially when every nuker has 2nd class nuke (prominence/hydro blast), necro hasving death spike which means they are 44+, they land slow from nuker on him all the time when he is 47 and he also gets root 100%, which means even their SE is high lvl

please, get head out of your ass, those nuker parties were 45+ same like fisher party, i dont even know what you wanted to prove with that weird ass interlude+h5 mix eglobal you linked, its relevance to classic is very huge i can tell

[Reddish 258]

WTB BSOE