There is a saying in my country, something like "Don't say 'hop' until you jump" or "until you land safely ". EDIT: "Don't count your chicken untill the eggs hatch" is the english version. I'd suggest you try that again, but without soulshots and with novice weapon (or something really cheap, like a grade and a half below your level). Sett, I'd suggest you stop suggesting, lol, no one will listen until it happens. First of all, Orcs didnt truly start showing up until around C3. Simply because they were one of the worst character types to level. At least for L2 NA. What Sett was trying to say, was when you hit level 25, make sure you are using a 50K NG weapon and maybe a wooden set, maximum of a bronze. With only self buffs, then go level wherever you were. All the orcs I see running around now are twinks. Meaning they are being buffed by higher level buffers and have store bought top grade D. Oh, sorry im not an expert at trying to figure out what's typed with google translate, his post was kinda confusing lol. And yeah orcs never were popular simply because they are not really good in mass pvp (and mass pvp was a huge part of L2 back then to get control of a zone or a room), and simply because archers/mages party always were the best for both when it comes to pve+pvp put together. melees were too easily killed in mass pvp by any range assisting each other. but to say destro is bad for exping? you're completly out of your mind, im not saying it's the best, im saying for a MELEE character its pretty decent. And about C3, i dont know what server you played on, but i would see a ton of orc players even before C3, atleast on Lionna and Bartz there were alot of them.