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Oh sorry all, didnt know FC 5sec not 3. That was very approx calculation based on my personal impressions. I did some tests. Sps can do ~90 hits\min (bd+acu+bers+12wit). ES doesnt matter - you just will cast more powerfull skills with es(cast speed cap). ~33% of casts are low dmg skills like frost and ice dagger. With ES it will be ~66% hydra+solar. BTW I made a mistake in my own calculation(initial calculations gave not 90k but 45k), with 90 hits\per minute the dmg will be ~100k(25% m.crits, 2\3 hydra\solar, 1\3 frost\icedagger, 3 long-delay skills+ QA ring modificator). Calculated possible dpm of PR to robes (with full HP) - got ~ same 100k with max buffs. Initial calculations were totally incorrect - cause PR dont just stand between FC, u do double shots and usual shots(which have all modificators). If we try to calculate maximum dpm (with low hp) the result will be ~150k approx. I will test it later to have exact numbers. Many of u dont understand that I'm (and the majority as well) not against FC usage as Rizo (with full HP, sometimes in FP set). Even from your movie we can see 5-9k FC to robes, (18k to not buffed target) with full HP. Even you lower HP a little bit - you will have already not 5-6k but 7-8k which makes all mages exept of necro 1-shot. Your personal example "Oh look how low damage with FC I make" is nothing more than terrible use of PR and castle. FC as a skill should be balanced the same way Rizo playing it- 4-5k dmg every 5sec is more than enough. No need to give a free ability to 1-shot mages. Modoy: Ok, tnx for the info on modificatiors (nevertheless I have a doubts that cat will give only 6% of real crit chance). But you are not right about "9k per FC, u realize thats the dmg u make when u are 10% HP" . Noope. 9k to robe u will get with ~50% hp. With 10% u will see 12-15k.

U missing : QA+10% crit* Blessing of Queen +25% crit dmg* +4 str. Try it and test skills on bw robe with buff(without earth song). Also I repeat - it was damage not from usual crit but from ability. U hit buffstation for 3375 and gorgol for 2533 with usual crits. Assume u dont have QA+Cat, with them it should be 4640 and 3483. Its low dmg? Or what did u try to show? Also u forgetting that usual shots cost nothing but mage shots cost mp (~35 shots with bts 5lvl) With your calculation you so conveniently forgetting about cat buff which gives +25% crit chance so 61% respectively. Yes mages can hit 2 times faster than archers but we dot have high dmg skills with 3s cooldown. Look on Rizo 6 sec movie - its ~800dmg from mages all hits. And it's with homa+12, " need nerf m crit chance and dmg in general" - yea, 800dmg its soo OP. Also - its nonsence when archer trying to complain about low dmg without cat buff and qa. Kure: "mages dps >>>>>> archers dps (even with FC).... cut that crap already." Lets take average FC dmg ~9k and multiply it to 20 (time\per minute) =180k dmg. Lets take average dmg from hydra ~800 and multiply to 34(usual hits) + 1600(m.crit dmg)*11(m.crits) = 90400. Plus we can add ~ dmg from 2 150 power skills and 1 200 power skill. Should not be >5k. So ~flat comparison 180k vs 95k. I dont mention that the majority of 70+ population have BO+4-6\analogs and it really helps against mages, and FC dont fcing care what enchant your set is, it will hit 1k less and sorc\sps\sph will die anyway.

What did you show us? How you've got assist from 4 ppl(kktnxbye,InfinityWL,JerryZ,KaKar) and died?

1) Who the fck cares if it skill problem or not if it changes the balance? QHP spam or FC is same disbalanced shit. 2) "went for 1h wep+shield, things would be different" obviously you have no idea what are u talking about. Shield+one handed and max lvl ee buffs will not save u from FC. Trashy archer parties? Tell me how ppl always played archers before classic?Without disbalanced stun land rate (9sec stuns) and FC? Even in C4 with x4 m.crit dmg, hero scepters and valakas necls archer parties were> mage parties. In the past every archer party used bd+sws+cat and assist to have decent dps , now u dont need anything - solo PR just spaming 1 button to robes and its enough. 3-4 days ago 74\75 SR hit me 5k - is it low dmg? PR will hit even more with max buffs. And thats was in addition to 9sec stunlock. Stop telling bullshit, you fully realize that current FC skill is created without thinking about castle CP bonus. You perfectly realize that 900range 9sec stuns with current landing rates are OP. Same necros with all controlling skills, dark resists, cdl and TP. As you said - all classes should have a chance to win or be usefull. Now it doesnt so why to keep the disbalance? Ppl(administration as well) are not idiots to broke the skills\classes completely, you are trying to exaggerate the skills change.

There is no balance now. And you cant garantee anything. All fcking 15 years NCSoft making crappy balance. Skills, proffs etc. You are like a cowardly person who instist to keep shitty goverment with the argument "the next one will be only worse!!!". Here we finally can help admins to make a real balance. Not the crappy offi with cp pots,self d\s, 1-shot FC etc.

Exaggerated, but some points are valid. About some debuff landing rates and FC. 2 FC for tank - no (it's for bards) but 3 - yes. It would not be any problem but we have +2k CP from castles and that changes all. Sneaky elf, I'm tired to repeat - we should not appeal to offi cause it has crappy balance and a lot of shit. Next time u have a think "It is(has to be) like on offi" - please go hit your head into the wall. Its evidently for any sane person

"How to die in 1 pvp 4 times for dummies" I tired to res myself)

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lol whaat? Are u sure he doest cancel the trade and put stem on second trade? Cause if not - its sql injection and that means that the server defence is sh1tty af. Any comments from administration?

yep, but if u already wasting time for mmo, solo till 25 then aoe only, partizan>ai>ev>abg. Look for rb as healer using party matching button as well (since 25). weapon - any 1-handed+shield, u dont need good weapon, better to invest to bw set and jewels. Tatoo I suggest +4wit+4con+1wit cause we will have 2.0 soon (check info if we will have +5 tatoo cap).

I didnt say you broke any rule "Its greeks brain so i can understand and I forgove him" is nothing racist" - it is. Please google on the subject about legal prosecution when they say something similain in internet, u will be surpised.

Modoy, forum rules < legal rules. For example you can say "greek monkey" but cannot say "Its greeks brain so i can understand and I forgove him ". For the 2nd the person could be legaly prosecuted. BTW its not the first time on this forum where some nazi abuses. I suppose there should be possibility to report such things to forum admin.

Immposible to look how one canned is poking another) But the wet shirt competition is hillarious.

No consequences? Its still some money and time. What is the reason to PK chars on low abg\ev spot with your main? They will res with bp\ee and got their 1-2% back with 1 train. This measure is effective only if not only your party PK war untagged party. Also you think from NEcro 76 POV with ++equip. Sure you can PK anything with 5-10 lvls less without consequences. If its epic - almost everytime we have PKs with >3 - with drop. You cant just PK non stop to clear the spot - you need to waste ~20min (road from spot and back,clearing,rebuff). Current system defends lower lvls from PKing by high lvls - they have no reason waste time and money. And still allow ppl to PK for a little (to clear spot\kill war's untagged support). If ppl(not war) stronly willing to stay on the spot - you actually cant do much. Isnt a balance? Why to ruin what is works fine and make new system needed serious tweaking?

Okay lets imagine the situation, you go to abg, see a party of 65-70 untagged war(9-10 chars), what you will do with them? You will lvl 3-4 PK PR 70+ lvl only for this case?Do you realize that PR with ng\d\c jews is 1-shot for the same lvl mage?They will kill PK and will kill flagged high lvl support after. Or you can go PK them with main chars 1 time and they will peacefully farm next 12 hours(+time to clear PK, remember maybe you will need to kill 2100 mobs to clear 3 PK and spend 1.125kk for that). Do you realize how many time you will need to waste for several PRs 60lvl and delvled it only for epics?And what can they do anyway?They will be same 1 shot for any CDL and they are many. Do you realize that 345k-1.125kk is a little bit pricy and time-consuming for low lvl PK? Do you realize that before everyone who see bot party could PK it and now ppl just leave bots to farm? This new PK system is another example why this server should not look to the official one. In the past (c1-c2) we didnt have PK clearing system and used PK parties with PK archers but it worked always for lesser levels and not organized parties. All serious PK of wartags without wars were carried out with main characters with clearing in clan halls through death(and loosing same % as PKed wars). Right now its balanced. You can remove ppl from spot by PKing them (it's pricy as well cause sometimes ppl need to clear 3 pk 2-3 times a day).And at same time its too pricy and time-consuming to just PK for fun.

Nope, so the era of PKing with CDL mages on epics is gone there, era of deleveled pk bows in ng is back. Ppl are shocked, now it's a problem to remove untagged war\bots from the spots or kill untagged war's support. Also the system is bugged now, a lot of ppl complaining that quest items are not collecting. Also currently you cannot relogin during killing mobs or the counter will start from 0 again(quest items are every 100 mobs). 1-3 randomly\per 12hours. I hope San0 is sane enough to not implement this sh1t here.

1) Take quest 2)bring 30 B gems to black judge to create the collar(1-time use) 3) Use it - it gives 5-hour buff (cooldown 12h) 4) Kill 700 mobs to got 7 quest items 5) Black Judge will remove 1-3 PK. btw Kure, it's Scions of Destiny(C4), not Interlude.

9vs9 I know, obviously i'm talking about 70+ party.

Thats not a surprice, anathema this days usually have better parties (live bards, bishop). Also top anatema 3-5 lvls higher. I participated in a lot of fights, yes we've lost more in same quantities but it's about boxes in parties (or even dont have boxed bards\healers). Not cause one side have claws instead of hands. Live party vs live party - that would be interesting to see who is tougher. And you have excellent conditions to make gvg in colliseum - both clans are not chickens to participate and loose, both clans will not make dirty trics (like LETS BRING ALL ALLY's 3lvl EPIC\++ FOR GVG!). Community will enjoy this as well as clans themselves.

The main current problem with your clan - if you go to abg to kill party of toxics\their subs I meet 2 options: 1)they PR from 1 sps 4-5lvls above 2)mobs already killing them cause of some fckup. All we know rosenberg - he is never fight back even he has 3 support boxes and can kill 1-shot any mage. Thats really annoying. For comparison we can take Anathema(65-68 party) - they think firts, and PR if only they are loosing or incoming force is too many. Sorry for offtopic

Delay for 2 sec will do the job. Retards will still buy qhp by good memory and use it with 3rd party software(good for server owners $). But if cp pots will be implemented - we will have a hundreds of clicker-warriors. About yday pvp - I wonder why AD didnt ask 5th party to help.Obviously yday's 4 parties could not compite with 4 ws parties. NF party was half-boxed, manifest cp is 62-68.

Even easier clicker can handle cp\qhp clicking, it could be any, even 12year old programs could do that. To check if the person was using the clicker\bot we can check: 1)How many qhp he use in a sec(max qnty) - if a real person can click same second ~10qhp and skills as well 2) If qhp spam is stopping at same HP (within ~300hp tolerance) in every moment 3) If qhp spam is starting at same HP level. Like if HP dropped less than some value - it starts qhp spam.

Can anyone with castle to test that?

Is it possible to use qhp with full hp? If yes - these videos is obvious proof of auto-cp clicker. If you check video - qhp usage is instantly stopped every time his hp is full.