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Spoiler-bum diaries part 3: Temporary I switched to aoe farm of snowballs in order to find a way to earn more than spoiling. Tried abandoned camp,ork barracs, near giran and partisans. The results are pure luck - one hour it was 13 snowballs- another it was 1-2. Got 400/hour in average. So I've returned to my small greedy dwarf. Went to ewd+leather spoil near giran. Got about 2 ewd (drop,not spoil) for 3 hours+ some leather and still with the same profit about 300-400k\hour. And finally went to EG for coal and ab spoil. And till 36lvl I got guaranteed 400\hour + some snowballs(dunny why but was lucky for 2-3 snow\hour). Next check will be cbp & cl spoil from lizards + test of sop spoil in hardins academy. Maybe it will be usefull info for some newcomers. *The final update with the answer to my initial question. Spoil on 38lvl lizards (27% of cpb spoil) is giving ~400k\hour (nonstop with se box). So Yes - there is a reason to increase your lvl while Christmass event is going or you are planning to lvling your spoiler to high lvl(for cruma spoil or etc.). And NO when the event is gone.It's 300k\hour at 12lvl(50k of expenses) or 400k\hour at 36-40lvl(time&1.5kk).

Yep. Christmas event+ newbie free top ng helps a lot. Actual online is about 2k+ imho - almost every f*cking hole of the server is full of people.All the time I surprized to see people in God's forgotten places. RB are free to farm if you are melee\bow, and fast aoe lvling if you are a mage. Easy to find a clan with 6-10% exp bonus. After 44lvl you can go for shamans for x2 exp. So the lvling is not a problem at least till ~60lvl (I didn't check what's above 60lvl yet). PKs also help to intertain you till 50(seen em at dion, floran,abandoned camp, hunters valley, forest of mirrors, hardins academy). Only 2 things are frustrating - oe items and that a mages cannot farm rb(at least a lot of ppl told me that). In c4 both mages and melee\bows could do that.

1) Since when people should feel cheated if the things are done in classic (standard + what is good to the server) way?! They should though about SA implementation when they spend adena\$ on their OE demon staffs. And also - people who earn enough adena\$ to have a lanterns - will change their present weapons without a problem in no time. More than that - I'm not sure about epic on this server, but since in the standard classic were implemented SA and aq+baium rings (+15%crit,+15%crit) - every mage changed his staff to the sword+shield setup. 2) ​SoM+3 in pvp 169matk. Equal homa to som+3 is homa +13 (170matk). Not to say about demon staff which doesn't have shield bonus. BTW, yesterday I've seen a blue valhalla. Is it new? EWB is drop only now?

​I already told how. There is no need to invent anything. Just implement standart SA system and A grade (it's already have +5% dmg bonus in pvp). And current owners should not be feel bad because its how it always been.

So I've decided to check the profitability 20-40lvl spoiler for myself.I'll update the topic with actual to my lvl info. IMHO: Best of 20-25lvl is hobgoblins (300-350k\hour). High competition and pk sometimes. 25-30lvl Turak Ork Footman\Senteniel\War hound (coal\as\cbp 250-280k\hour). So far (till 30lvl) I didn't find any better spoil than I had at 13 lvl.

​Bugs which makes possible a tens of 0,00105% possibilities should be closed. Present oe items should became less actual with normal SA system and A grade weapons. It's not a question of a boot on the other foot. It harm the server. People are not attracted to play on the server which is looks like a one-day pvp server. Enchant rate is retail, server is retail what more you want? If ppl really want play they will play, when I started on this server had a lot of over enchanted items and now I have red weapon, it's don't matter. ​Are you a troll? Retail rate is 0,00105% to make a mage weapon +12. Do you really so lazy that didn't google yourself how such a weapons are created? Already told that wtihout bugs with the same "retail" rate it is no possible to have so many oe weapons on the server. And nobody cares that you finally bought/got your red weapon.

​Bugs which makes possible a tens of 0,00105% possibilities should be closed. Present oe items should became less actual with normal SA system and A grade weapons. It's not a question of a boot on the other foot. It harm the server. People are not attracted to play on the server which is looks like a one-day pvp server.

EtoRazEtoDva is right. People who want play/sociolize - will do that. And also - ppl prefere their boxes because it always will allow them to exp solo and have buff/regen for pvp. And I don't think such a things easy to implement.

​Thanks! Dark Lords from Cruma is for a party I suppose? Or it solvable solo?

EWD is the same chance (which is crappy) as ewc. For the mat resouces (coal,ab,varn) - I already do the max profitability from low lvl resources. Top c is not an issue, but for getting B I need to think something more profitable. Which for I'm asking an advice.

Hi all, I'm trying to find any economical reason for lvling my spoiler 19-40. Searched the market and only possible reason is ewc from AI(but as I see a lot of threads about unlucky ewc spoil - afraid to even try). Everything on demand on the market is drop only (top c and top b parts). SoP from windsus - is the same profit ~300k/hour like on 13-19lvl (also there is PK sometimes and a lot of people). But in the case of lvling to 40 I have to invest time for 1) lvling 2)D grade armor quest 3) money top D blunt 4) 1st profession quest. In the case of <20lvl spoil there is only 150k(armor) + 330k(top ng weapon after 7days of free nb weapon). Any advices are appreciated(but i have not enough nerves to do high lvl spoiler)!

​Не спорю. Но есть ли такая возможность? Продавал же за реал НЕ Я, но перс то МОЙ ​Передача данных аккаунта это такое же преступление как и продажа аккаунта. На оффе если администрация узнает о том что аккаунтом пользуется 2 или более лиц то аккаунт блокируется. ​Плз, не надо дезу пускать, тут это разрешено: 2. Players may: 2.4 Give access to their account to other players. BUT by giving your account to anyone, you take on responsibility for everything that may happen to it (scam, ban, password change etc). А по теме- перс уже не твой раз ты его со всеми потрохами(мылом) отдал.

As I remember - mental shield + weapons with SA mental solved fear promlem ones and for all.

It should be 1% loss in the siedge zone as designed(BUT LATER). That's because high lvl need some purpose in the game at last stages(when fully equiped and lvled). It always been that way. After every siedge you should return your % which adds dayly pvp in the game. Otherwise high lvls will be go more and more rare in the game, first on epics and siedges, than only siedges, then never. 176 vs 216 seems pretty equal for me. 22% difference could be tolerated by tactics or lvl\equip differense. Changing the balance to vigi side now (as 1% and respawn delay supposed to do) will actually harm the future of the server. WS side should get some fat for now (lvls&equip). When WS side will have many of members 70+ ( maybe in a couple of months and if the siedge cc(and siedge results) is not changed) - admins should make 1% loss as designed. * Outside view

BTW what is the rate for ewc on Aligator Island?Didn't find that at l2central.

если для денег - то флоран, там кости и кожа падают, паравозы самые лучшие (имхо) в ант несте на мурашах(единственно что - антидоты танку нужны или окно что снимать яд будет)

​i thought there must be some bug as well, but when i saw rizos going +9 bop like nothing, i was convinced its not so hard to do that (tho i failed my first enchant on server, bought emi+4 and 2x ewc, broke it on +5 so i had to sell the second enchant for cheaper price than i bought so i can afford akat :< ) ​Fighter weapons always had better rate. It's nothing wrong with 1 +9 bop on the server. It's only 70%^6= 8,23% flat chance even without fake enchant method. I had +8 myself back in c2 days (with fake ench). I dropped top d bow from a mob yesterday with 1\10000 chance - so it's possible. The problem is we have hundreds of oe above +8, especially magical weapons. Flat chance to have demon staff+12 is 0,00105%. for Homa+10 is 0,655%. For emi+14 is 1,38%. Needless to say that's not normal and should be cured. As I said - it is not a new problem and it has a good solution without taking oe weapons from people. Surely the first thing to do - is to check this bug closed (and possible bugs with 2.0 introduction). Otherwise we will have hundreds of SoM+++. And I have to remind the RULES of the server which is obviously violated in this case: 1.3 Take advantage of the server bugs.

Lol. It is quite naive to think that all these lanterns are because of spoil ewc. Even it would be so - there is no chance to enchant top C in such a quantities cause it's craftable. There were a lot of bugs with overchant and "dupe" items for c1-c3 servers. You can google it if you want. Obviously it was some bug overlooked by admins and probably this hole still is not closed. Surely it could be specifically changed rates for the enchantments( didn't find the info on that). For example - at c4 server I played with thousands of ews(olymp+drop+spoil+epics),bews(from epics), with average 3k online for 3 years - it 1 arcana mace+10,1 +9, 2+8. When I started playing here and seen so many oe top c - "WTF! It's classic?! Or it's pvp one-day server where admins sells oe items?". It rejects a lot of players who want to try classic l2. *About how to fix it - you are not the first one who faced such a problem. The solution is easy - just introduce A grade or classic SA system(or both). Emi and demon staff are not having good SA(focus and acumen). Actuality of these lanterns will be significantly reduced. SoM has pretty high matk and bonus+5% in pvp - it will also help to remove this OE unhealthy situation.

Play mage. Necro was op in c1-c4. Cause C1-C4 was all the range fights most of the time. SpS should be nice with best mag crit rate. Solo farm is quite easy. Mass skills are available. When I played l2 for the 1st time I was a SK. Even been able to kill most of people on arena but it was absolutelly useless in mass pvp. The same for any melee. Oli mabye will be easier but there will be Necro again.

Maybe it will be out of the 2.0 scope but: Lower adm comission on auction from 50% to at least 25%. That will remove 90% of illegal deals so as a result you will make more $ from the more commisions. For example I wanna buy homa+8. The seller want to sell it for 20 eur, but with your commision he has to put 40 eur for it. Which is too much for most of the people for such a stuff. Exceeds psycological limit you know. It's easier to risk 2 deals on the black market or have 2 times better weapon for this amount of money. Especially there is no problem to hide your deal on the black market. I know at least one server where such a problem were solved by lowering the commision. The auction is empty now. Nothing better than +8 homa and no OE jewelry - are you serious guys? There is a lot of deals on the black market where all this OE weapons, jewelry and epic are sold -it's obvious. NO to A grade from only epics. Make it spoil&drop. Cause top alliances defend top spots anyway - there will be enough difficulties without "only epics A grade". More fun with pvp there in addition with pvp on epics. Epic jewelry+scrolls from epics itself gives a huge advantage - there is no point to make this gap bigger between top alliances and the others. YES to a couple of top lvl catacombs. NO to CP and MP pots. +5 Dyes. C4 has that and I see that pretty balanced. Mess on the market - please mark parts for SB, Resources, Craft, Things. Classic l2 augmentation system. Cause this server has abuse of oe. It's understandable when on every server there a lot of oe homas. People just buy dark screamers in giran's shop and oe them with ewc from treasure boxes(>>Mamon change DC to homa). And with online 3-4k they have SEVERAL oe homas within several years. But here? Hundreds of craftable OE top C or homas? Are you serious? To hell all this blue demon staffs and emi bows.