Sensei

You can chat after lv 21. This was to slow down rmt spammers.

@Sneaks I'll speedrun this. - It's going to be impossible by normal grinding to make adena/gear unless super lucky. Either you donate a tiny bit at start (premium account/auction gear) or you make spoiler (Dwarf Scavenger) and spend a few days on it until you are financially comfortable. Focus on a good weapon whenever u hit a new mastery checkpoint (D-grade at lv.20 / C-grade at lv.40 / B-grade at lv.52 / A-grade at lv.61), armor can be less of an issue in most cases. General tip: try to farm mobs that you see white, as that means they are in your lvl range. - Quick farming classes can pick up the pace from there (once u get weapon) and u can forget the spoil cancer after that. Atm those classes are Tyrants/Destroyers but I guess melee DDs get the job done as well. Tanks are viable for that too, but def. slower. - Start from any clan with xp bonuses/skills if you can find one, there's plenty actually. The ones with war are only end-game anyway, you will meet them at 76+. - There are no instances, just raid bosses and grinding mobs. - Very few but good quests (25 lvl Moon Knight quest is a must almost) for decent armor set. - Don't be too trusting of ppl you see around, classic has the mechanic that you can drop items if you die to mobs, and others might stun you or sabotage you in any way they can, so be alerted. -It's not going to be very exciting until you are 60 or so because nowadays ppl grind pretty fast, so don't expect to find parties unless it's for Raid bosses. Even so you can always click Alt X -> Party to check if some party is to your tastes. - Finally, my personal tip: if you have a friend or meet someone in game that can give you some basic info, this will ease things a lot. You don't wanna waste your youth trying to figure out how to do class quests as a newbie. Google l2wiki classic when its time for quests (you will get pop-ups at the bottom right of your screen when the time comes) if that friend never shows up and you will eventually get it done. Cheers!

You guys nowadays, have the knowledge to xp and make adena fast from lv.1, and even if you don't, the forum/discord pros will tell you everything you need to know. Still this isn't enough for y'all. You want to farm 100kk your first day, log out 40 lvl with quest, and have A set+6 in 1 month. In the end what were your criteria when you chose this server? Some newbie asked me a few days ago all those how-to's, saying he does not like the idea of donating (respectable). But when I suggested him to make a spoiler and sell mats he felt almost insulted. I lowkey hope he is playing some lolo x5000 right now. (If you want to grind with RBs alone, this will not be a fun experience for you.)

congrats to fl00r .

that like does not exist anymore! What did you do to her??!

@DrunkAngel you know the saying "you are the sum of the 5 ppl you spend most of your time with". Now the word "puppet" coming out of your m--keyboard is giving shivers even to a Huge player like me.

great speech Biz. next topic pls.

^ "besides memes" includes this guy spamming ruski like anyone is going to translate

What was the point of this post besides memes? What did you want to suggest exactly? You already farm all the RBs, no?

There is a char called laxzp in one of my accounts but the only mail I will probably receive is one with death threats

Angel on the right shoulder: If someone makes such a post, it implies good intention to return items. Devil on the left shoulder: If someone makes such a post, they probably want to either humiliate the other player for making a -lets all admit- dumb mistake or is simply a call for attention, it's hard to stay lowkey every time epics are lost. They don't have war since over a year afaik, so I don't know if I buy that "war excuse", and as I wait for confirmation on that, let's just say your asscrack of an ex-leader had beef with them and that influences your thought process. Asking cuz you need opinions on a public forum? Fk yeah hommie, an ancient player like you really needs and depends on the opinions of 50 random forum masters to make an ethics decision. Wait, what char was this mail sent to? No way I want to assume you made nicknames similar to your old enemies hoping for a day like this, aye? You guessed right, I want to side with the right shoulder guy!

Merry early Christmas!

That's a good one. If you are a newcomer you can forget about clan hall. I've seen servers where clan halls would be up for re-bid after long periods and also re-contesting of clan halls through clan Hall "sieges"

This is going to be as long as your morning poop + newspaper read. Conclusions & Suggestions after exploring the latest patch, here we go: Classes and skills - Remove from Insane Crusher the ability to crit or reduce the unreasonably high base damage or both. Not only it makes DA the most forgiving class in olympiad, but it also kills him (reflect) on mass pvp. - Nerf the % of debuff resistance Purification Song gives. It's been discussed a lot, damage-only meta is a thing and makes the game less fun. - Nerf Shield Bash of Eva's Templar. Way too high landrate, it seems to be ignoring stun related epics/any armor and buff resistances. I would also increase the cooldown, 2 sec just makes it spamable, nearly a stun lock in many cases as its almost instant, and wins all stun vs stun situations because its simply way faster. - Make Vortexes unresisted. Just like Stigma/Raging Force etc. We don't see any nukers using Vortex in pvp becuz its simply not gonna land through Puri. Shame to not be able to use Vortex and Crusher/Buster/Slug, which are all cool 76+ skills and draw ppl to play elemental nukers... who are doomed to die anyway with the addition of 82 Forgotten Scrolls. Which is the next big one. - Forgotten scrolls of lv.82. While, for example, the +15% M.Def of Protection of Rune is not that insane by itself, the +1k M.Def trigger IS. This is going to be the end of all Mage/Summoner parties, but deep in the future, since the books are not so ez to drop, luckily. There's a few ways to go about this. Obviously, one would be to add 1 more book that gives similar benefits, but for P.Def. Other would be to decrease how often it can trigger (for example counter critical can re-trigger every 15 sec). It's a good concept overall becuz it can result in longer fights, which is always desirable. - Summoners are about to get nerfed finally, thank you very much, god bless, nothing to add. huehue trollface Forgotten Island - Primeval Talisman and requirements. With the current drop rate of required items we are not about to see a complete talisman soon. At the bare minimum I would increase Carbonemys shells from 2% to 5% and Pterosaur Talon from 3% to 5% as well. Also 1 T-rex Fang is enough instead of 5 from stage "Escort" to "Commander". - Tyrannosaurus, the Dominator of the Wild. Few pros and cons here. 20% chance for Fang - good. 2h+2 window - good. Stronger T-rex - cool. Now... The message does indeed bring pvp, but as primes are family-friendly and peaceful, that's pretty rare. I don't see why we need all those messages like T-rex spawn (it's not even a raid boss), Devil Isle box, Hekaton death announcement etc. For style points I would replace the message with a Roar that can be heard all over the island (yep it's not bad to play with l2 music) if you guys rly can't go without some sort of a warning. Ppl can be just chilling doing nothing and they will just see the msg from a camera to take action, while others might be farming inside, so why those 2 should have the same chance at it, right? Next, T-rex spawn was limited only to solo area, which is mind blowing almost. It can literaly 2-3 shot solo farmers if it spawns next to them. Afaik T-rex was supposed to be a predator that was relying on hiding and sneak attacks to catch prey, so wth is he doing out in the open? Wasn't it fine when he could also spawn inside the jungle? Why make the search so easy? - Sailren. It can literaly die to 2 chars. Which makes it less frustrating considering I was seeing only runes dropping sometimes, but still... I would increase the drop chance of at least weapons by a little and increase its difficulty so more chars are required. On OBT it once did a cool meteor aoe but never saw it on live server. Right now it offers huge profit to those who can farm it regularly. The inside area has no time limit, but if chars disconnect they get kicked out and need new entry items (ouch). Also anyone can enter to sabotage/steal at any given moment you are in which is... interesting. We've seen servers were the party leader would decide when the party goes in and noone else could enter after, but I leave this open to discussion. Baium - Beautiful work on pvp zone, new spawn window and lvl fix. Well done. Clans - Introduce new clan skills that give slight bonuses based on clan activity. Too many clans out there full of lv.1 boxes, online activity should be rewarded imho. - Remove the option to instantly close clan wars. This is being abused to ugly extents, you all know what I'm talking about here. Either A) from the moment the leader decides on it, war will close in 3 days. Or B) Increase the penalty for closing war, 500 crp is NOTHING. Grinding - Reduce the absurd xp of SV/FP/Abg/Fom raid bosses or make similar random window for all. Not much to add here... - Rework some lower level mobs to give more xp so newbies can smoothly grow without having to rely only on RBs. - Rework the exp loss at higher levels. 4% till 78. 3% at 79. 2% at 80. -50% death clan skill is going to be limited only to well-off clans for a long time. And jesus christ... - ...Finally scale the level loss % properly, losing 20% from 80 to 79 in 1 death is just shamelessly sh1tting on our intelligence. You end up with more exp if you die at 79 + 99.99% than if you die at 80 + 00.00%! Yikes...! I had a tough time coming up with something for archers, they surely deserve something extra. Maybe Counter Critical's trigger affecting their auto-hit crits? Have a nice day.

To be fair it sounds like a pretty strong indicator. And I don't know why he uses oly as an example since its his gear carrying him, never saw any epic plays, he feeds every decent player.

@Amorfius Would you like to make an ez Baium solo instance maybe? And did you just say "the audacity to request pvp"? Did I read that right?

tl;dr The patch itself is great, it has interesting features, cant' dispute it's so much better than Varka/Ketra. I don't want to think there is any healthy gamer who does not want a pvp server over a pve one. So in that regard, the moves you made (Baium pvp zone, T-rex message w/o possible Gate Chant, PR to beach) are actually on point. There are so many farmers on this server that end-game content HAS to be revolved around pvp. Randoms requiring things to be so ez, as if they don't have ways to farm/grow, is the bad mentality that we don't need. Cheers.

You should be also, I just saved you some time and money from hunting that trash T-rex. Did you see my drops from Sailrens? What a waste of time that was...

Are you the hero with closed wars? WOW

I was swimming in poverty until china came to the server

can you add the emote "kappa" on comment reactions?

Gee thanks bruh, that makes everything clear! It's not like I had every drop and percentage memorized before I decided to enter! It's not like I killed a couple of them on test srvr, so I don't end up dissapointed by the new content like I am now...! @Kse @Koll any actually useful info on the subject?

on Test server: 7/10 Sailrens dropped weapon , 2/10 dropped Claw. on Live server 2 Sailrens dropped....runes! Are you sure its the same story for test and live @San0 @Koll @Kse ??? Because if there's something weird going on with the rates, it's only fair that I wish to be compensated.

It's 2 ppl guys, don't make it sound like I will die alone