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ahahahah so funny. Last night I had a dream that created this kind of post and so did video Too much l2 in my brains though. Problem is : Some quest items drop rate is like -90% if you one hit kill monsters. Don't know why is it made. Maybe to punish KS'ers? While people doing KS for quest and disturbing doing quest for dwarf/fighter classes? Still I though its an old relic from old chronicles and does not fit in classic here

​not quest rates but item drop rate

At least some 1 could check in files whats the actual q drop rate of them. Because I Took this quest 10 lvl started killing those skeletons And ended up in lvl 14 to bring q first time... Then I had 2 quests taken for killing same monsters : "Spirit of The Craftsman: (To get 10 skeleton pieces for Magister Harne's soul catcher). It was enough to kill 19 skeletons to get all 10 Q items. Still 0 q items on the other quest. Killed 14 skeletons more to get 1q item. (OK mage`s top equipment devotion,m Bsps) I can shot them 1 shot. Now Imagine fighter with low gear killing each skeleton for like 10+ seconds. If To compare : it makes that... : 1q item would take around : 10(19+14)=330 seconds that makes 5 min 30 sec. - Just hitting , let's add running mob-to-mob ~3 seconds each which adds more 1 min 39 secs. (don't count sitting :regen Hp/Mp) So overall to get q item it takes about : 7 minutes and 9 seconds. (if we compare same q item drop rate) If "Lucky" Let's say it might be 1/3 faster. Still it looks fishy. Is this quest worth our time?

Some weapons and Armors existed even in c1. Like : Great Helmet/boots of blessing/Dark Legion Armor , Armor Of Black Dragon , Ace Shield and etc. Here by gm command u can get BW DOOM stuff but they are without any set effects and are not obtainable by any normal means. BTW I remember seeing Blue Wolf Shield in some database ;D Abruzzi you mistaken salamander does not have set or any enchanted effect at +... (Though It's lame since Classic is completely another chronicle they could have introduced some new sets... ) Here in game you can obtain few weapons that are not that popular in our old chronicles. It's skeleton dagger (stats similar to Dirk NG) Drop - Gora werewolf Wolverine's Needle (Mid dagger C gr) Drop - Headless Knight (Type 2)

There are many drops in l2 classic V1 that are not yet implemented so It's not a bug. ATM most of drop here mirrors website https://l2central.info/classic/Цвайхандэр . But It's updated to meet v2.0 For example you can get +4 str -4 con dyes from Drakes. But Dyes +4dex-4con are on existant here. Best you can get +4-5 from shop or +3-3 from some monsters drop. And some other drops are missing. So It'll be fixed in another update I guess but by a patch itself.

As you can see all this video , and as I mentioned before in some posts... Quest items drop rate of this quest are fishy. I'm not complaining just reporting an issue that someone from administration would check it. No need any additional testing to be done : already captured in video... http://sendvid.com/4cjpb2p6 And please don't comment that i'm killing wrong skeletons here are those https://l2central.info/classic/Предсказание_будущего

Try to delete system and reapply patch. WIll sonve this problem 90+ percent.

A nice monster name here. I thought It is a must to share it with you

Almost But please don't comment my writings but share your knowledge from L2 for people to know more stuff here And tips not to make their l2 experience here miserable.

Im looking for trouble

Ok It was just a suggestion how to encourage people partying together Lets talk about some tricks , tips and stuff what is a better way to achieve our goals. Adena/Xp/pvp. I myself found that most of flying creatures are weak to archery and wind attacks. In some cases you can nuke with Dark Wizard monsters up to 30% dmg to monsters than same monster and another wizard with same stats just different element. I found that till level 20 is very easy to kill flyers with wind strike skill so... Lets say : Dark mystic without a problem can nuke bats 1-3 nukes depending on gear or shots. Easy farm , more adena same with xp All bugs and plants are weak to fire attacks so good for sorcerers to own (or any mage in ants nest with aoe Flame strike). Especially execution grounds , Dicors (cruma tower2) - which are mage reapers As well Undines are weak to fire attacks in forgotten temple where you can lvl up easily. To be honest : Tank with good equipment and jewels can withstand 10+ monsters there. So any mages with flaming strikes can lvl up there saving shots and time than grinding 1x1. Elven Wizards though have their water attack attribute their not many monsters here having weakness to water attribute mainly fire salamanders... Leveling in Forgotten temple Monsters : Roxides (in water quarters) and Death Fire (in fire quarters) drops very good adena. And their respawn time is ~10 minutes. Each quarter have (depending on server setting) 10-14. Roxides have 2 henchmen that are undead skeleton mages which using aura flare and poison a lot. For this bringing antidotes is a must. (though their level is 29) simple antidote leaves can halt poisonous effect. Death Fires henchmen are 2 skeleton archers that are using stun arrows. ( I find them very easy with rogue class and light armors to kill). Just a little preview : As you can see different weapons having different stats Blunt - fast atk speed , medium p.atk , low critical , very high accuracy. Two-Hand-Blunt - Medium atk speed , high p.atk , low critical , very high accuracy. Sword - fast atk speed , medium p.atk , high critical , medium accuracy. Two-Hand-Sword - Medium atk speed , high p.atk , medium critical , medium accuracy. DualSword - Medium atk speed , high p.atk , high critical , medium accuracy. Dagger - Very fast atk speed , low p.atk , very high critical , low accuracy Bow - Low/Very low atk speed , very high p.atk , very high critical , low accuracy. Fists - Medium atk speed , high p.atk , high critical , medium accuracy. Polearm - medium atk speed , medium p.atk , high critical , medium accuracy (ability to hit 3 monsters -without mastery) p.s. If you equip your mage with pole your cst speed will be penalted a lot. So don't buy just that weapon is top NG ^^ Having this in mind you can choose different equipment fighting versus monsters or a players. Heavy armor - strong p.def , no evasion bonus , critical reduction ~30% - without armor mastery) [Tested] Light armor - medium p.def , high evasion bonus , critical chance reduction ~20% - without mastery. Robe - low p.def , high mana pool , no other bobus. So I've found that if you're leveling Warrior/Gladiator class or dwarf/Destro/tank with blunt. It becomes very handy to fight against targets with Light armor mastery. Most monsters with light armor mastery (stakato,scouts) are using Daggers/Bows , (If you're not a tank you can hunt them without a shield and they will miss a lot) And golems+undead having blunt armor weakness . For a dagger classes its a mandatory to use skills and toggle "accuracy" against light armor wearers , but It's safe to hunt them even if they are with packs. you can attack 3-5 scouts (If they are not using skills) at one time and use only 1 healing potion. Because of weapons natural ability (dagger/bow low accuracy) and yours high evasion they will miss a lot. You can even with rogue go into a pack with 10 monsters use ultimate evasion and withstand all of them without a problem. Your turn

Well and where you can see that you can't get xp by killing higher level monsters? I tried my 1 lvl fighter full buffs+top NG equipment. Killing harit lizardman warriors so 14-15 levels higher. And got all xp... If summoners summon can help a newbies how it is a bug? I understand If you would be hitting dark blue monsters from which u get 0xp and party member would get full xp and would be easy farming. But here... come on... I don't see a problem here

Nicolas how old are you? just curious because It's not the first time you can't understand any single sentence. 1. Some russian fascists = some not all , but shouting on world chat (If you're not typing russian you get insults being g-a-y from usa and similar just because you're speak international) 2. And language barrier... not fascists what are speaking their own language lolz... (Language Barrier is my own where I can't type russian) 3. What advertising you see? Any links? huh? Only a Fact if people want pure classic they should go there not to stay here , because they won't find here that hard. to "nevax" here rates are x3 fast level , fast adena + u can use shots + not so many bots and no such an expected crowding. You expect to see here any single dwarf or people actually griefing another players? I doubt if it's possible. Maybe in higher levels (maybe , just if its too hard to get C grade stuff). Clan wars or just enemies will do griefing at any low/mid rates , but this won't be that global like in retail. And btw that's why I made this post to give suggestions to think of something positive. I made calculations which to make you were too lazy. I\m giving suggestions thinking any way to help staff to achieve goal that people would wish to party with each other. And you people are to lazy to lift a finger , just criticize. Ok suggest make any good suggestion , share your experience and knowledge do so. Otherwise you should better avoid this topic and let those people to type whom would do anything to improve this server`s performance. Have a good day! p.s. Yep this is democracy where only smart and mostly good decisions could make this server perfect. That`s why I asked for other people to look to think any unique way to increase gameplay and aim is not to make game easier lolz. p.p.s. For some lazy people even q rate x1 is fair for x3 server so I don't rly understand their perspective of l2. Mindless grinding mb? and at higher lvl pk? - Nice ^^ Shot00042.bmp

Erm why do you think it's a bug? 1. Your character Is out of range to get xp 2. Your summon does not count as you. 3. Why do you think that another character gets all xp? I see 1.400 XP and 0 SP. 4. Is it our high rates or x3 live rates beta? Im killing alone same level monsters and getting 1.9k xp... 5. Leave your cat and let elf kill mobs herself or come closer and you will get xp shared ^^ . 6. Better try to kill dark blue monster for yourself and white for your party member. I wish to see difference ;) n some chronicles there was a thing if you get buffed your summon gets the same buffs and is like bound to your character. In other chronicles this thing was removed. sorry this post looks very funny. Shot00042.bmp

Liar I killed calpico and got nothing. Had to kill him 2nd time to get tears of shilen.

Check this out How can it restore 121.090% lost xp? If My SE has 2 lvl Resurrection which restores 20% lost xp (and +12 WiT dyes) which (in godd same In classic I guess) add some % restoration of lost xp via resurrection. Please correct this information window with actual XP restoration. BTW same happens with Cleric Resurrection.

Hello my friends some nice and smart dudes and girls , some idiots and kids... Because this is :General Discussion section" I apologise in advance if I'll break any rule of the forum. All ideas thoughts gonna be written just for the welfare of this server. As you know some people left for another classic server x3 "Melcosoft" Some to try x3 rates , some impatient people wished to play on classic instead of testing. Ofc ATM you can play OBTS with much higher rates count adena rate 100*3/100 to verify almost accurate adena drop and stuff but still x3 gameplay is completely different. I've played there and left at 42 lvl (was rly tired of bugs/some russian fascists and language barrier) but still had some x3 experience. I started this topic because saw some people just haters , others very emotional with lots of critics and sharing their thoughts without any positive suggestions for this server. 1. For those whom are saying : "THIS IS CLASSIC" should learn that this server having just "Classic Chronicle files and Mechanics of this game" But whole game is not classic. a) Pure classic is Korean/RU - if you want classic go P2P there's a forum where you can buy Promo Codes Via paypal and pass payments barrier in order to play in 4game Ru(Innova) b) I played in Shilen server myself and all rates were 0.7x . With such as rates you can deal all quests x1 rates w/o complains because It brings prosperity for a character. c) People are so poor and desperate for adena that were running bots all over the server and ~40% population were bots. (You could see for 1month + same bots same places hitting same monsters... d) Because of such a huge demand of adena and so little gear there were griefers (Spoils that were stunning players whilst killing monsters just to die from them and drop their own gear) , (healers healing monsters/buffing them and etc.) This is a classic you are talking about , if you wish classical pure hardcore experience go play there. 2. This server will provide a lot of different experience for all players... Lets talk about it. (Most of success will come from this server's management). a) All rates are x3... so... if you played on Russian 4game you will feel game 4x easier... = More levels in shorter time... And like in general rule you won't be richer than a player at same level in pure classic. Still players will use soulshots here often and by that they will save much less. b) Bot prevention - Good Idea and I just hope that this feature will be working 100% efficient. But also this will cause less flow of adenas in open market = more players will be poor c) Goal to make people to do partying more often - a good cause to keep people more social and by that I just Hope that community service in game will also be working and effective. But this cause should have it's advantages. [a] Okay If monsters in dungeons are tough and 1-2 players+box buffer is not enough to grind there. But will it be also rewarding??? To encourage people creating parties and stuff? At this moment it makes no sense. Why I need party if I can alone kill monsters in other places and gain better adena/xp. [Maybe xp sharing system should be a bit more encouraging?] Since rates are x3 I can play solo and collect materials/adena/gear myself adena drop is not that miagre. [c] Dungeon type quest rate could be slightly increased. Why? For people to at least start doing them of course. Dungeon quest : analysis : https://l2central.info/classic/Кристаллы_Огня_и_Льда As you can see Description It rewards people with 15 Adena each! . on rates x0.7 It means something Because monster there x2 Hp gives EVEN 24-44 adena! ​ Monsters are almost impossible to kill alone with such a circumstances and getting 15a /each means something. This server is x3 rates = 4x better than (Innova adena drop) But reward is 2x... sooo ? How It might encourage people do quests? Where each player gets 4 adena per monster and 15 adena per q item , and where player gets 16 adena and 30 adena per q item... (Many farmers won't even waste their time with this quest) I would advice to give 45 or 60a per q item of this quest. So more players would co-op. Another quest : https://l2central.info/classic/Осколки_Руды_Души 200q items in hardcore dungeon for 3k (here 6k adena) 8 players in party... so lets say each monster drops (64-112 adena) Let's say the each of monster gives q item here. So... If you go in party like this. Each player will get : (64+112) /2 = 88 adena (If solo) If 100% adena drop rate Lets make it 70% so... 88*0.7= ~62 adena. 200 monsters = (200x62) = 12.400 adena. (If full party 9ppl) 12.400/9 = 1377 adena. Reward = 3000 adena. So yeah you earn something. In this server it would be something like... 5508 adena farmed in full party reward 6000 adena. Don't forget 200 Quest items. This might cause psychological impact for some of the players. I Advice to increase this quest rate at least to x3 or even x5. Why? I think It's an obvious thing. I could run this quest like 3x day with farming in full party for 8+ hours and get (~16k adena + 27-45k from quest) + materials. This is x3 experience. And lol you haters stop crying that it must be hardcore. This is not a hardcore server but might become one with inadequate Quest rewards system. Ofc If Russians would have x1.4 rates and x2 quest rewars I wouldn't say a thing. (Just looking for alternatives to encourage people to join parties which could be rewarding by a bit). https://l2central.info/classic/Предсказание_будущего Quest reward 500 adena (here 1000 adena) I remember in 4game Ru (Shilen Oracle with disturb undead skill ) killing these skeletons to get big 500a reward. Here you won't find a thing! I by get killing (on this server test [Live x3 rates] ) skeletons 20-58 ~ adena each. So... since quest item rate is very low in that time to get 10/10 I kill ~60+ skeletons so... (Tested myself maybe unlucky so... still) . 1200- 3480 Adena since I can earn 1000 adena reward. a) Quest reward drop rate 100% = 10 skeletons = Quest complete. = 120-348 adena for killing them 1000 reward. = Place to farm far far away /no tp/takes lot of time. In same time you can shot bats 2hit and get 32-68 adena. In time i get to kill skeletons I can hunt ~30-40 bats. = (960/1280 -2040-2720 adena) So... tell me why should I go somewhere far away to kill dangerous and social monsters to get less adena and XP. b) Quest reward drop rate remains the same = 10 q items = (Lets stay optimistic and lets say 30 skeletons) waste my time get low adena to get 1000 adena quest reward. Suggestion? I Suggest to "Or leave quest drop rate the same or do ~10-15%" and increase its reward to 2.500-3.500 Adena. Why?? Think of it. Low level Fungus q 600a each. Easy to farm no need party for that you get 600 adena if you collide with "Scent of death" quest (where zombie q item drop could be at least made 30%) people would might do roundabout quests like in old classic. Players would go to School Of Dark arts collect bones run into a village and won't be afraid to buy scroll of escape which would cost 1/2 current reward. This is just one of the tools to reward people by doing parties. Reminder : This topic is not for just haters and imbeciles. Please people share your visions of this server how might or should it look and stuff. Another thing : Let's say I'm a spoiler or Rogue. Path to success where should I start farming , why , how to save adena and stuff to get Top D gr items. Your thoughts , experience farming place and etc. May this topic become a guide for a new players , teacher for casual players that doesn't know some of tips and tricks. And maybe it would help to think , share ideas that could encourage people or make them WANT to go in parties. That administration even consider to make in this server on live. p.s. Again haters and criers please don't ruin this quest especially with phrases like : "THIS IS CLASSIC" Again : This is not classic , you want classic experience go play KR or Innova official.

Sooo you people stole Russian files or what? I think Draqla Thuglife ^^.

I liked the chat "adena plz" ;D

Yeah some of the translates are rly hilarious ;D But no worries in time all of this gonna be fixed

True... skill went missing wtf?

​ This is on our OBT with x3 live rates so...

Someone from the staff please do comment. It happened once I done most of dark elven quests. I just talked with Newbie Helper and Dang 16>19 level as you see 20.036 adena 416.266 XP and 84.474 SP. Maybe it should be like this maybe It shouldn't I never seen this thing on classic so please explain how does it work here...

https://l2central.info/classic/Исчадие_ада This quest minimum reward should be 3k so x2 = 6k + some extra from broken skulls. Don't know how quest is here calculated but it gives even less than should according to the description while doing quest... on x2 rates.

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