Fenrir

i'd rather not waste my time and electricity just to stare at my monitor while hoping to sell my stuff. just sayin'. having offline shops is like having a Broker system, so i don't see what's the problem.

​they did say that people using different PCs could play from the same house. dunno how they will set the IP check thou.

i thought that u preferred to play on retail, considering the last pm anyhow, if you guys changed your mind and decided to come(and stay) here, let me know if you're still open for recruitments.

i'll probably focus on skills testing as well. gotta make sure that guts and frenzy don't stack together, otherwise destros will be godmode if we can manage to get dyes too, maybe i'm gonna try a sws with +12 dex as well just to see if it can become a machine gun. the new skill with damage+silence should be nice as well.

rather than the server specs, i'm more worried about server stability(and longevity).

well, the fact that you can't dual box from the same pc without PA, but you can still play with multiple accaunts on multiple pcs without it, doesn't make much sense to be honest. in the end the result is the same, the only thing that changes is that you'll have to keep 2 PCs running(PC+Laptop for example), wich is not a big deal at all, so most people will probably prefer to do so instead of paying for a PA. in that case, they could simply limit the normal accaunts dualboxing to 2-3 windows at max, and change the PA features for more windows/extra features. the "scan" window for in-game drops/spoils is still a nice feature for PAs. if they'll eventually add special cosmetic items for PA users only, it could be even more profitable.

you can still gain more attack speed, critical rate, acc and evasion, so it's not entirely useless. elven classes like sword singers could maybe gain more dps by slotting DEX instead of STR, since they have the lowest STR in game and the highest DEX.

the best anti-bot protection will always be active GMs. custom protections and reports works too, but usually only on short terms.

to be honest, at this point i couldn't care less if it's emulated or not. if it works as intended with the same L2C gameplay/features, i'm fine with it. still better than playing with crippled rates anyway, at least for me.

​you will not get more running speed by increasing DEX, if that's what you were thinking. run speed in L2C is fixed for every race and cannot be changed directly, except for buffs and passive skills. it will not be a problem anyway, since they changed frenzy and gave it speed bonuses as well, wich is quite fine considering that we will not be forced to drop down to 30% hp in order to get zealot for higher run speed.

the recruitment link in the main post is broken, it redirects to innova. anyhow, it's nice to see more english clans showing up, since so far there's been only 3 recruitment threads for international clans in between a sea of ru clans as for planning to be a top-tier clan, considering the current situation i guess that probably there will be a lot of competition with ru clans, so things may actually get interesting and fun.

clueless much. there was even a discussion on offi eu forums: https://4gameforum.com/threads/classic-dyes.26392/

most people for PvE will probably go +12 INT anyway. same with STR for warriors. if u have to farm for exp, usually the thing that matters is how much time it will take to kill a mob(or more mobs at once with AoEs), so if you can 2shot or 3shot a mob you won't have to worry about casting speed at all. PvP is a different story, but the setups usually depend on race and class. WIT also used to increase debuffs resistance beside casting speed and magic critical rate, but dunno if those stats have been changed in L2C.

there's no stats limit anymore apparently. but the dyes are set to +4 at max, and since u can use only 3 slots, u can only get [+4][+4][+4] for a max of +12, with a bit of a downgrade from the opposite stats deduction( since +4 dyes will require a -5 stat somewhere else, given they're common dyes and not from the old merchant of mammon ).

u can use the russian client from 4game(innova) too, you will just need to apply the patch that the admins will provide when they'll start OBT.

it's not an english server, but it's not a russian server either. anyhow, when people will have to make up parties or sell their stuff, soon or later they will have to use english wether they want it or not, because otherwise on an international server they won't be able to do shit. we're in 2015, everyone should know at least some basic english. i'm not saying that everyone should speak perfect english 24/7, but at least i wouldn't want to see the general/shout/sell chat windows flooded with cyrillic all the time.

well, considering how both KR and RU models ended up, i surely wouldn't want to pay a monthly fee for a 10 years old game if i'll have to play with waves of bots and crippled rates. i would gladly leave it to those grinding lovers and botters. in theory, on the 21/05 Innova should announce their plans for EU classic, but since they mentioned a P2P model before, it will probably backfire after the first 2-3 months of hype and the population will drop. not to mention that it's not even guaranteed that it will be released either.

guess that bots are "tolerated" even there, wich is kinda sad. but beside that, language barriers together with an eventual lag due to server distance doesn't rly inspire me much however, if the UI is in english along with skills and items, guess it would be already nice for starters willing to give it a try.

apparently only the common ones. u can get at max those that are +4-5, the ones like +4-4 does not exist yet, since they were sold by the merchants of mammon in the catacombs/necropolis.

meh, i would be right there immediately, but sadly i can't understand japanese D: also, F2P? they got no IP blocks at all?

well, the fact is that if they're actually emulating L2C and have no official files, at this point i'd really like to know what chronicle they're using, because clearly the rates will not be 1/6 like in L2C offi if this project is based on previous chronicles. to make things clear: L2 Classic is a whole different thing than L2. it's not the same game based on previous chronicles, but it's a totally new game. even the character stats are not the same of the old chronicles, they were setup similar to the GoD patch to improve balance between classes along with skills that have been changed/rebalanced. the only thing that was taken from previous chronicles are the rates, that were lowered to increase the difficulty of obtaining gear and leveling, nothing else.

it's not like we got something to loose anyway. the other L2C emulation projects apparently are all in russian language and still in development, while this one is international and will have an OBT soon. might as well give it a try and see how it is since it's here. i can understand that some people are upset due to weekend planning gone wrong and the advertising event being changed, so the L2C Talking Island team could/should have probably organized things in a more professional/efficent way. there's no excuses for bad management, but that's all there it is. shit happens sometimes. as said before, i'm actually more worried about geodata and skills, considering our current situation. OBT is up ahead, we'll see.

to be honest, i'm more worried about the in-game skills/geodata, rather than the change of OBT date. before it was: OBT launching on X date, Live version launching Y date. in that case, i could have simply thought about testing the server stabilty. but now the OBT has been postponed, and there's no info about the Live version. at this point, if people will have to play an OBT just to find out that the whole client is filled with bugs and broken skills, people will not bother playing at all after the first 20-30 minutes of gameplay. not to mention the total lack of actual infos as to why there were issues server-side. if they really want people paying for "premium" accaunts, they should at least care a bit more about their playerbase.

it depends on the quest thou, they're not all similar. i still remember the 3rd class change quest where you had to kill loads of bugs near imperial tomb, and people where doing it with full groups to save time.

​iam pretty sure ive got back in the days even as healer my quest items... if it is like you say.. that would realy.. suck for every support. ​in korea they were making rows with people waiting for quest monsters to respawn, pretty much like what happened in L2 offi when GoD patch went live. no idea what will happen here. ​But they are Asians very disciplined people. We are Russians and greedy capitalists from west. ​i'm sure there's plenty of people from all around the world