pwnzy 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2016 It was quite nice looking at the fights, every side did its job. Quote Share this post Link to post
ProGressive 740 Report post Posted November 21, 2016 Got identical screen, just another skill bar The zerg was strong with enemies this siege.Vigilance, SM, ROK vs Tfd, perkunas, totallytoxic, hwarang, nonfactors . Am i missing anyone else? I guess our clans have each 80 people inside so we are zerg You continue to prove me correct saying you are the next zorg , dont lie in forumNF has 1 cp in clan average lvl 60. TotallyToxic have 1 CP.Rest ok, Vig, SM, ROK ok.Perk was losing pvps due to ur zerg, but won castles during to their brainz. Ezy as that, nothing to lie here.So u count level or zerg? Because zerg is perkunas for sure. We had way smaller CC. U had 178 if im not mistaken.140, including boxes. btw, dont forger we had a couple of cp under 50 lvl and a lot of them where 5/9 - 7/9. we know we zergged, its normal, if u dont have level u need to have numbers. on official servers is the same, and nobody trolls this thing. Its easier to fight with a cc of 100 people 70+ then 140 like perkunas.Man thats what im trying to say, you zerg because you dont have levels, and against gladiators its enough because in long fights we sit withouth mana. Also u have archers CPs, we have 0. What gives u a big advantage. For example that fight outside oren. And i dont understand why u say we are all 70+, we have a lot of ppl 66-68. Quote Share this post Link to post
AwakenDemon 166 Report post Posted November 21, 2016 i can name at least 6 CP`s of yours that are 72 +i can name 3 PEOPLE in Prerkunas that are 72+See what i did here? Quote Share this post Link to post
Yomana 437 Report post Posted November 21, 2016 i can name at least 6 CP`s of yours that are 72 +i can name 3 PEOPLE in Prerkunas that are 72+See what i did here?pls name 6 of our CP's with average 72+. Im curiousbtw in perkunas you mean ally or clan? cause i see at least 9 people over 72 in Perkunas -Tfd -Coma on top lvl list ( i can name them if you want) Quote Share this post Link to post
AwakenDemon 166 Report post Posted November 21, 2016 http://l2classic.club/statsgo read and count. Write me here if u have trouble with the reading and counting, will help you with a pleasure 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Yomana 437 Report post Posted November 21, 2016 http://l2classic.club/statsgo read and count. Write me here if u have trouble with the reading and counting, will help you with a pleasureSo you aint gonna name them? I already asked Except if you are afraid you are going to make a mistake on lvls Quote Share this post Link to post
AwakenDemon 166 Report post Posted November 21, 2016 Name me 1 pt of Vigilance who is lower than 70?For info, there is 3 CPs out of 4 in Perkunas who are below 66 Quote Share this post Link to post
Yomana 437 Report post Posted November 21, 2016 Name me 1 pt of Vigilance who is lower than 70?For info, there is 3 CPs out of 4 in Perkunas who are below 66 So now you change the topic cause you cant do what you say? I think you embarassed yourself pretty much already.I dont care about the level of Perkunas cps, i know you are low. When you say you CAN NAME dont be a chicken and do it. I will gladly prove you wrong cause you dont know and you still say random things to make impression.Im not in Vigilance and i dont know the exact numbers , but 72+ with 70- are a big difference. And as ALLY we have no more than 4 Cps average 72+ Quote Share this post Link to post
Anytime 556 Report post Posted November 21, 2016 Name me 1 pt of Vigilance who is lower than 70?For info, there is 3 CPs out of 4 in Perkunas who are below 66 our party Quote Share this post Link to post
Trytylanka 4 Report post Posted November 21, 2016 dramaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Quote Share this post Link to post
driver 247 Report post Posted November 21, 2016 the real question here is: considering what happened today at giran bridge, what will you do if someday vigilance ally will get your same numbers on sieges? ...let's meditate.u talk about recruiting like its easy. btw i dont think soil doesnt work on recruiting low levels, the thing is that its not so easy. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
driver 247 Report post Posted November 21, 2016 Got identical screen, just another skill bar The zerg was strong with enemies this siege.Vigilance, SM, ROK vs Tfd, perkunas, totallytoxic, hwarang, nonfactors . Am i missing anyone else? I guess our clans have each 80 people inside so we are zerg You continue to prove me correct saying you are the next zorg , dont lie in forumNF has 1 cp in clan average lvl 60. TotallyToxic have 1 CP.Rest ok, Vig, SM, ROK ok.Perk was losing pvps due to ur zerg, but won castles during to their brainz. Ezy as that, nothing to lie here.So u count level or zerg? Because zerg is perkunas for sure. We had way smaller CC. U had 178 if im not mistaken.140, including boxes. btw, dont forger we had a couple of cp under 50 lvl and a lot of them where 5/9 - 7/9. we know we zergged, its normal, if u dont have level u need to have numbers. on official servers is the same, and nobody trolls this thing. Its easier to fight with a cc of 100 people 70+ then 140 like perkunas.Man thats what im trying to say, you zerg because you dont have levels, and against gladiators its enough because in long fights we sit withouth mana. Also u have archers CPs, we have 0. What gives u a big advantage. For example that fight outside oren. And i dont understand why u say we are all 70+, we have a lot of ppl 66-68.let it be so) our core parties are 66-68 :))in biz party he is top level with 71, rest are 68-70 Quote Share this post Link to post
zorgzor 62 Report post Posted November 22, 2016 Who care abaut lvl. When enemy die thay say we are 60+ when thay win with zerg thay laught we kill 70+ ... go arena and test duel 60 v 70 and you will see that is not so big different betwean this 10 lvls. Like we make test for example glad 60-62 can kill eassy mag 75. I mean mag dont attack him just stay. Be logic is that if you have zerg and hight lvl get dmg from 3 -4 ppl in sec he die. There is no lvl different system like it was from 1.0 where lov lvl have miss or less dmg v hight lvl. Dont know why Sano dont add this. But now you need to have more skill but not biggest lvl. Quote Share this post Link to post
MoDoy 1772 Report post Posted November 22, 2016 Who care abaut lvl. When enemy die thay say we are 60+ when thay win with zerg thay laught we kill 70+ ... go arena and test duel 60 v 70 and you will see that is not so big different betwean this 10 lvls. Like we make test for example glad 60-62 can kill eassy mag 75. I mean mag dont attack him just stay. Be logic is that if you have zerg and hight lvl get dmg from 3 -4 ppl in sec he die. There is no lvl different system like it was from 1.0 where lov lvl have miss or less dmg v hight lvl. Dont know why Sano dont add this. But now you need to have more skill but not biggest lvl.the dmg difference and debuff landrate definitelly exists even on this server, maybe its not as big as it used to, dunno, but i definitelly make less dmg to higher lvl chars and its not coz of p def Quote Share this post Link to post
zorgzor 62 Report post Posted November 22, 2016 Who care abaut lvl. When enemy die thay say we are 60+ when thay win with zerg thay laught we kill 70+ ... go arena and test duel 60 v 70 and you will see that is not so big different betwean this 10 lvls. Like we make test for example glad 60-62 can kill eassy mag 75. I mean mag dont attack him just stay. Be logic is that if you have zerg and hight lvl get dmg from 3 -4 ppl in sec he die. There is no lvl different system like it was from 1.0 where lov lvl have miss or less dmg v hight lvl. Dont know why Sano dont add this. But now you need to have more skill but not biggest lvl.the dmg difference and debuff landrate definitelly exists even on this server, maybe its not as big as it used to, dunno, but i definitelly make less dmg to higher lvl chars and its not coz of p def58 archer v 69 glad 5500 crit60 glad v 75 mag 2-3 k crit when mag on this lvl with pp buf have 3900 hp Quote Share this post Link to post
MoDoy 1772 Report post Posted November 22, 2016 Who care abaut lvl. When enemy die thay say we are 60+ when thay win with zerg thay laught we kill 70+ ... go arena and test duel 60 v 70 and you will see that is not so big different betwean this 10 lvls. Like we make test for example glad 60-62 can kill eassy mag 75. I mean mag dont attack him just stay. Be logic is that if you have zerg and hight lvl get dmg from 3 -4 ppl in sec he die. There is no lvl different system like it was from 1.0 where lov lvl have miss or less dmg v hight lvl. Dont know why Sano dont add this. But now you need to have more skill but not biggest lvl.the dmg difference and debuff landrate definitelly exists even on this server, maybe its not as big as it used to, dunno, but i definitelly make less dmg to higher lvl chars and its not coz of p def58 archer v 69 glad 5500 crit60 glad v 75 mag 2-3 k crit when mag on this lvl with pp buf have 3900 hpand what exactly did u want to proof with this? Quote Share this post Link to post
UchihaMadara 108 Report post Posted November 22, 2016 Who care abaut lvl. When enemy die thay say we are 60+ when thay win with zerg thay laught we kill 70+ ... go arena and test duel 60 v 70 and you will see that is not so big different betwean this 10 lvls. Like we make test for example glad 60-62 can kill eassy mag 75. I mean mag dont attack him just stay. Be logic is that if you have zerg and hight lvl get dmg from 3 -4 ppl in sec he die. There is no lvl different system like it was from 1.0 where lov lvl have miss or less dmg v hight lvl. Dont know why Sano dont add this. But now you need to have more skill but not biggest lvl.the dmg difference and debuff landrate definitelly exists even on this server, maybe its not as big as it used to, dunno, but i definitelly make less dmg to higher lvl chars and its not coz of p def58 archer v 69 glad 5500 crit60 glad v 75 mag 2-3 k crit when mag on this lvl with pp buf have 3900 hp58 archers crits 69 glad for 5500. Proof me this. With full buff I making not more than 1.8k crits. Again lie. What a monkey u are Quote Share this post Link to post
MoDoy 1772 Report post Posted November 22, 2016 Who care abaut lvl. When enemy die thay say we are 60+ when thay win with zerg thay laught we kill 70+ ... go arena and test duel 60 v 70 and you will see that is not so big different betwean this 10 lvls. Like we make test for example glad 60-62 can kill eassy mag 75. I mean mag dont attack him just stay. Be logic is that if you have zerg and hight lvl get dmg from 3 -4 ppl in sec he die. There is no lvl different system like it was from 1.0 where lov lvl have miss or less dmg v hight lvl. Dont know why Sano dont add this. But now you need to have more skill but not biggest lvl.the dmg difference and debuff landrate definitelly exists even on this server, maybe its not as big as it used to, dunno, but i definitelly make less dmg to higher lvl chars and its not coz of p def58 archer v 69 glad 5500 crit60 glad v 75 mag 2-3 k crit when mag on this lvl with pp buf have 3900 hp58 archers crits 69 glad for 5500. Proof me this. With full buff I making not more than 1.8k crits. Again lie. What a monkey u arei think he meant it other way, that glad 69 crits archer 58 for 5500, but not sure Quote Share this post Link to post
ProGressive 740 Report post Posted November 22, 2016 Yea now its lower then it was. On 1.0 im with 52 level sps could kill full party 40 level in cruma with kite+heal+hp pots. They did max 400 damage from nukes. And dont forget there was only adamantite jewels(not full) Quote Share this post Link to post
driver 247 Report post Posted November 22, 2016 Who care abaut lvl. When enemy die thay say we are 60+ when thay win with zerg thay laught we kill 70+ ... go arena and test duel 60 v 70 and you will see that is not so big different betwean this 10 lvls. Like we make test for example glad 60-62 can kill eassy mag 75. I mean mag dont attack him just stay. Be logic is that if you have zerg and hight lvl get dmg from 3 -4 ppl in sec he die. There is no lvl different system like it was from 1.0 where lov lvl have miss or less dmg v hight lvl. Dont know why Sano dont add this. But now you need to have more skill but not biggest lvl.easy to explain to a smartguy like you)last siege i was on 60 lvl in a 58-61 lvl party. now we rush in castle and get mass stunn and 2 more aoe hits and all die. its not about damage, its about debuffs also.you cant know, you never tested it in usual conditions. Quote Share this post Link to post
driver 247 Report post Posted November 22, 2016 Who care abaut lvl. When enemy die thay say we are 60+ when thay win with zerg thay laught we kill 70+ ... go arena and test duel 60 v 70 and you will see that is not so big different betwean this 10 lvls. Like we make test for example glad 60-62 can kill eassy mag 75. I mean mag dont attack him just stay. Be logic is that if you have zerg and hight lvl get dmg from 3 -4 ppl in sec he die. There is no lvl different system like it was from 1.0 where lov lvl have miss or less dmg v hight lvl. Dont know why Sano dont add this. But now you need to have more skill but not biggest lvl.the dmg difference and debuff landrate definitelly exists even on this server, maybe its not as big as it used to, dunno, but i definitelly make less dmg to higher lvl chars and its not coz of p def58 archer v 69 glad 5500 crit60 glad v 75 mag 2-3 k crit when mag on this lvl with pp buf have 3900 hparcher(PR) 68 full buff crit in glad 68 pp buff(with bers) 2.9-3k maxtested. Quote Share this post Link to post
zorgzor 62 Report post Posted November 22, 2016 Who care abaut lvl. When enemy die thay say we are 60+ when thay win with zerg thay laught we kill 70+ ... go arena and test duel 60 v 70 and you will see that is not so big different betwean this 10 lvls. Like we make test for example glad 60-62 can kill eassy mag 75. I mean mag dont attack him just stay. Be logic is that if you have zerg and hight lvl get dmg from 3 -4 ppl in sec he die. There is no lvl different system like it was from 1.0 where lov lvl have miss or less dmg v hight lvl. Dont know why Sano dont add this. But now you need to have more skill but not biggest lvl.the dmg difference and debuff landrate definitelly exists even on this server, maybe its not as big as it used to, dunno, but i definitelly make less dmg to higher lvl chars and its not coz of p def58 archer v 69 glad 5500 crit60 glad v 75 mag 2-3 k crit when mag on this lvl with pp buf have 3900 hparcher(PR) 68 full buff crit in glad 68 pp buff(with bers) 2.9-3k maxtested.depent what skill with my archer 58 i hit Llght Glad for 5500 from fatal and 3500 crit with dauble shot, i dont say abaut debufs now, but abaut dmg and abaut lvl different. cose 60-65 lvl make its eassy, but make 75 is very hard, but this 65 can kill 75 for me is no logic there, if classic system is made abaut lvl different, but we dont have this system, so i dont anderstand why all time ppl remember what thay are low lvl, if you low lvl than dont go siege and farm. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
UchihaMadara 108 Report post Posted November 23, 2016 Who care abaut lvl. When enemy die thay say we are 60+ when thay win with zerg thay laught we kill 70+ ... go arena and test duel 60 v 70 and you will see that is not so big different betwean this 10 lvls. Like we make test for example glad 60-62 can kill eassy mag 75. I mean mag dont attack him just stay. Be logic is that if you have zerg and hight lvl get dmg from 3 -4 ppl in sec he die. There is no lvl different system like it was from 1.0 where lov lvl have miss or less dmg v hight lvl. Dont know why Sano dont add this. But now you need to have more skill but not biggest lvl.the dmg difference and debuff landrate definitelly exists even on this server, maybe its not as big as it used to, dunno, but i definitelly make less dmg to higher lvl chars and its not coz of p def58 archer v 69 glad 5500 crit60 glad v 75 mag 2-3 k crit when mag on this lvl with pp buf have 3900 hparcher(PR) 68 full buff crit in glad 68 pp buff(with bers) 2.9-3k maxtested.depent what skill with my archer 58 i hit Llght Glad for 5500 from fatal and 3500 crit with dauble shot, i dont say abaut debufs now, but abaut dmg and abaut lvl different. cose 60-65 lvl make its eassy, but make 75 is very hard, but this 65 can kill 75 for me is no logic there, if classic system is made abaut lvl different, but we dont have this system, so i dont anderstand why all time ppl remember what thay are low lvl, if you low lvl than dont go siege and farm.if 65lvl can kill u when u are 75, u're just a cancer 2 Quote Share this post Link to post