SemenArsonist

Rizos and modoy is the biggest love story of the server, you can't mention one without the other. It's like romeo and juliette, bonnie and clyde, zp and screaming after losing in oly

well to be fair, it works how it's supposed to work, but how it's supposed to work makes no sense at all, which is stupid.

They do, but don't count on it, there hasn't been a very profitable event here since last february iirc. it's not a reliable way to gather them. afaik most people made a shitton of them during the tiger event 2 years ago. at that point the energy market crashed so bad that a lot of people still have shittons of them saved up on their warehouse. I don't think amon and elmoreden's lady mobs are even being hunted actively anymore.

because of that and its ability to play as backup healer

A year and a half ago perkunas split into two sides. The first had most of the core cps and it was led by sjeks(pendragon) and the second led by bizqquit. Bizqquit kept the perkunas name. Sjeks group renamed to deviate. Bizqquit quit for good some months ago, Perkunas clan is being used as boxclan for old fightclub members afaik. Rizos and modoy created raven soul. China is still here and they're the most dominant side right now. As far as i know shaka is busy in real life and the clan is being lead by haoguspeller. Sjeks quit and now his side is led by Fortuna and it's renamed to antithesis/contra omnes. There is also an american prime side (DarkForce) that has some old perkunas members like Kiam and Luiz along with new people. A lot of old people are still here along with a lot of new people as well. Server is doing good in general, there have been four different sides for a while now. Plenty of EU clans.

Well to be fair full stacked paladin is top farmer in oly. he's very strong but the downside is that a lot of matches end up being determined on damage done, so he can be inefficient. Certainly not as good as DA but I think he can do better than SK. Also outside of olympiad Paladin is nearly mandatory for competitive party setups. I don't think he needs to be buffed. If there is a class that needs to be adjusted I think it's TK in order to make his 80 buff a bit better, in order to provide the parties an option as to whether to pick TK or Pala for their setup. P.S. Rip SKs

there's also a certain disney bear that is chinese(he likes honey), but i don't wanna name him because it might get our chinese friends in trouble

they have yao ming! and jackie chan? does he count?

there is too much bad blood between both sides since both sides are infested with people with huge egos that talk too much, don't expect this to happen anytime soon

I have the greatest idea about this. Spoil usable in pvp, if the target dies and you use sweeper you take one random item from the victim's inventory!

Hero list April 2020. Life is pain edition. Abyss Walker (Ghost Hunter) - Draca [RS] Bishop (Cardinal) - Pipenov [RS] Bladedancer (Spectral Dancer) - Travitz [RS] Bounty Hunter (Fortune Seeker) - SadKurwaSouvlaki or something [RS] Dark Avenger (Hell Knight) - IKaiten [Napalm] Destroyer (Titan) - SemenArsonist [CO] Elemental Summoner (Elemental Master) - Lafi [CO] Elven Elder (Eva's Saint) - Masha [RS] Gladiator (Duelist) - zhttty[WK] Hawkeye (Sagittarius) - Jlamepka [WK] Necromancer (Soultaker) - M [RS] Overlord (Dominator) - Imse [RS] Paladin (Phoenix Knight) - lPepit0 [RS] Phantom Ranger (Ghost Sentinel) - Ordinator [RS] Phantom Summoner (Spectral Master) - iEtheri [CO] Plains Walker (Wind Rider) - MoDoy [RS] Prophet (Hierophant) - Krystynka [RS] Shillien Elder (Shillien Saint) - Lozorius [RS] Shillien Knight (Shillien Templar) - weweweng [WK] Silver Ranger (Moonlight Sentinel) - Yarill [RS] Sorceror (Archmage) - Jebiewdenko [WK] Spellhowler (Storm Screamer) - Cookiemonst3r [RS] Spellsinger (Mystic Muse) - Haoguspeller [WK] Sword Singer (Sword Muse) - shootah [RS] Temple Knight (Eva's Templar) - MorteSubita [DF] Treasure Hunter (Adventurer) - ChenHaoNan [WK] Tyrant (Grand Khavatari) - Angerfist [RS] Warcryer (Doomcryer) - JzOo [RS] Warlock (Arcana Lord) - Skitty [RS] Warlord (Dreadnought) - Setzer [WK] Warsmith (Maestro) - SilvioDante [RS] Raven Soul - 19 WuKong - 7 Contra Omnes - 3 Dark Force - 1 Napalm - 1 Congratulations heroes, please help me fill in the gaps now and correct me if something is wrong.

I grow tired of this conversation, kys.

I don't even know what you are trying to prove anymore, I think you are arguing just for the heck of it. I've stated my opinion, I've explained my reasoning, what happens from now on is up to the admins.

fuck you asshole, stop leaking info

Insane damage output my ass, you need to reach people to do damage and if you are suicidal enough to try to do this in a mass pvp scenario you will land 2 hits at most before they realize that they are being hit and they will run away from you while the other enemies will focus you for rushing like an idiot to the middle of them and you will die. Summoners can't burst people, that was never the point of the class, they can deliver enough sustained damage that when combined with efficient assisting can be deadly. All of this from a safe distance. Also I never said they were supposed to be damage dealers, that was also why I didn't include them in my list. The fact of the matter is that on a mass pvp scenario any melee dps class other than tyrant right now is IRRELEVANT.

The difference is that destroyer is strictly a damage dealer, while summoners have lots of other uses, primarily debuffing. If you convince san0 to add banes to titans then we could have this discussion again.

Don't put words in my mouth. Summoners have a unique toolkit and have their own purpose which they can fulfill without having roflmao tier nuke damage. A good summoner cp can do insane things on its own, something that no summoner cp has ever done here as far as I'm aware of. It is harder to achieve but if used properly summoners can be insanely good.

Don't make me repeat myself, unless you find definitive proof that it is indeed not working as intended, then it's a nerf, not a fix.

This is the wrong way of looking at things. For me, there are tiers of usefulness. Broken Tyrant Necro(only because of transfer pain, debuffs are very hard to land on puri and most fights on current meta are over by the time puri ends) Hero nukers Efficient Other nukers PR Gladiator tier Gladiator Meh tier Hero daggers Inefficient Titan Warlord rest of archers non hero daggers "Lol nice hp dude, can you please do valor now?" tier Spoiler Crafter This is my view on things. You don't have to agree with me. Anything on inefficient tier and below needs a buff in my opinion. This is strictly mass pvp wise, I'm not talking about any other aspect of the game.

How long are you going to present last week's qq thread about might of heaven as an excuse to nerf destroyer's roar? Last week is last week, I was pretty annoyed with olympiad and I took it out here. In the end it was bugged(along with other high level nukes) and it was fixed. No nerfs, just fixes. In fact, my QQ had nothing to do with the fixes, it was your evidence about nukes that got might of heaven nerfed. Does what I say while enraged have any importance on any level other than a personal one?

Ah so the gloves come off, finally you admit this is personal. Good good. I thought I was talking to a robot with all the passive aggressive attitude and the smiley faces.

Everything is bugged on club. I don't mean to shit on the admins/coder. But there are realistic limits to what you can do and what you can't without full official files. The selling point of club is good administration combined with good activity and longterm stability(which is mostly due to good administration). The downside is we are trying to emulate official while not having full knowledge of how things work and the result is a mess. How long can this go on for? Maybe it's time to start viewing things on how they should be, not how ncsoft thinks they should be.

I believe that there are a million broken things in this game at the moment and destroyer fear doesn't warrant an immediate nerf for any reason at all. In fact, this nerf would make the game even more broken as it would make titans even more useless outside of olympiad. I don't care what modoy says, "titans have their uses" is not an excuse, you yourselves have admitted that if you are using any class other than tyrant as dps in a melee setup you are playing the wrong game. The difference is chaotical. And yes I will keep using the word nerf until the opposite is proven. I'm not going to argue whether it's intended or not as I am not crazy enough to try to understand the thinking pattern of a fucking Korean MMO developer. I also don't have to prove anything because I'm not claiming anything is broken. If admins want to follow official l2 server changes to the letter, they need to have hard proof as to what they are doing is accurate. Or they could accept that everyone at ncsoft is incompetent (and KOREAN) and deviate from their stupid nonsensical guidelines. The thing is that titan nerfs is the last thing this server needs right now. They are just reinforcing the tyrant/mage meta, titan has exactly one use right now and that is olympiad. Yes even on their traditional role in L2, which is raid boss killing, they are outclassed by tyrants right now. That is fucking ridiculous. I repeat that this class needs to be buffed, not nerfed. If admins proceed with this shit you are proposing, they are shooting themselves and server balance in general in the foot.

There is no proof that it's a bug. Until valid proof is presented, strictly by definition it's a nerf, not a bug.