nNyxi 46 Report post Posted July 30, 2016 yes op 2.2 to top maked archer with full buffs am +4 ;D in classic 2.0.........emi bow or any other weapon +12 is still far away any of these s grade weapons Quote Share this post Link to post
vsD 6 Report post Posted July 30, 2016 An eminence bow would need to be +19 or 20 to be equal to a DB and a BoP +13 to be equal to DB, it's ridiculous that we're basically fighting S grade mages with B jewels Quote Share this post Link to post
gfbot 207 Report post Posted July 30, 2016 Well the gms counter-argued adding beast shots early because people would be under geared.Now that people have weapons/armor superior to s grade.I see no reason not to add them. Especially if this summon attack bug still consists. Quote Share this post Link to post
gfbot 207 Report post Posted July 30, 2016 An eminence bow would need to be +19 or 20 to be equal to a DB and a BoP +13 to be equal to DB, it's ridiculous that we're basically fighting S grade mages with B jewels Honestly, with the +12 str, you can reach drac bow status pretty easily. You don't need a focus SA, since everyone just spams skills. Also stun shot lands on everything since there is no majestic armor in the game yet. Mages don't get their acumen SA, so its pretty balanced. But I am still here with no shots on my summoner, gg. Quote Share this post Link to post
GanjaRockzZz 304 Report post Posted July 30, 2016 Please?GfBot i am so tired of you mate.You make that Post Like every single mage got +10 ++++ staff.Beast Shots 2.0 DEAL WITH IT AND STOP QQ ALL TIME ! And btw this is 2 handed staff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
gfbot 207 Report post Posted July 30, 2016 Please?GfBot i am so tired of you mate.You make that Post Like every single mage got +10 ++++ staff.Beast Shots 2.0 DEAL WITH IT AND STOP QQ ALL TIME ! And btw this is 2 handed staff Mad?Doesn't change the fact that its still s-grade status, and the summon attack bug still exists. Quote Share this post Link to post
GanjaRockzZz 304 Report post Posted July 30, 2016 Please?GfBot i am so tired of you mate.You make that Post Like every single mage got +10 ++++ staff.Beast Shots 2.0 DEAL WITH IT AND STOP QQ ALL TIME ! And btw this is 2 handed staff Mad?Doesn't change the fact that its still s-grade status, and the summon attack bug still exists. I am not Mad.Game creators decided that beast shots belong at 2.0 if you wanna be a game changer go find reaver 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
kkthx 245 Report post Posted July 30, 2016 its giving better bonus than fighter weapon bcoz its harder to ench mage weapon (lower chance - check urself) and 2nd thing that mages re 1 shot compared to others 400 items Itemtill +4 till +5till +6Black Ore Necklace 71,75% 32,75% 26,00%Avadon Circlet 72,50% 31,00% 24,50%Avadon Robe 100,0% 67,75% 33,25%Sword of Valhalla 49,75% 50,25% 43,50%Bow of Peril 65,00% 63,25% 67,25%Damascus 66,00% 67,00% 61,75%it is harder to enchant a Magical Weapon (B-grade) than the Physical one. another thing i see no comparsion to pet ss. Mage can have 12 wep, but still do less than ur ES summoner. U can farm all day infinite mana. Mage 12 wep still sit every 5 mob to regen Quote Share this post Link to post
Rizos 1487 Report post Posted July 30, 2016 gfbot. How about ut nukes? isnt it ridicous that u nuke for 600 and m crit for 1,2k with 35 lvl nuke and +0 c weapon into archer? Plus mage weapons++ are much more op than fighter weapons because mages have (m atk*skil power) dmg formula and fighters have (skill power + p atk) dmg formula Quote Share this post Link to post
Setzer 165 Report post Posted July 30, 2016 Summoners can still use Demon's Staff +12 you know... Quote Share this post Link to post
vsD 6 Report post Posted July 30, 2016 An eminence bow would need to be +19 or 20 to be equal to a DB and a BoP +13 to be equal to DB, it's ridiculous that we're basically fighting S grade mages with B jewels Honestly, with the +12 str, you can reach drac bow status pretty easily. You don't need a focus SA, since everyone just spams skills. Also stun shot lands on everything since there is no majestic armor in the game yet. Mages don't get their acumen SA, so its pretty balanced. But I am still here with no shots on my summoner, gg. You do realize mages can go +12 wit and get like +70% cast speed and double m.crit rate and lose like nothing from it right? who cares about acumen when a nuker can have unbuffed casting speed that he would only have with fullbuffs in prior chronicles and C weaps with m.atk like +4 S weaps? On the other hand if any fighter goes +12 str u either lose a shitload of atk spd move spd crit rate or hp/cp/weight/debuff resist Quote Share this post Link to post
ProGressive 740 Report post Posted July 30, 2016 First, this is not mage vs fighter discusion, everyone knows necro op.Second, ES is OP as solo class. Third, removing dex, u wont lose movement speed.Fourth, give paladin and TK pet with frenzy buff ^^ Quote Share this post Link to post
vsD 6 Report post Posted July 30, 2016 First, this is not mage vs fighter discusion, everyone knows necro op.Second, ES is OP as solo class. Third, removing dex, u wont lose movement speed.Fourth, give paladin and TK pet with frenzy buff ^^ As u can see he turned it into one. And yea u're right, no speed since these are the GoD values 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
FryderykChopin 853 Report post Posted July 30, 2016 At this point I wouldn't even mind the beast soulshots, but the main problem is, we wouldn't be able to make fun of gfbot not having beast soulshots anymore Quote Share this post Link to post
H3R3G3 30 Report post Posted August 1, 2016 We summoners needs beastsots.We summoners needs bud fixed.GM/ADM already did a lot of changes in fok classic.club ...Do this changes for us too. Fix bug, give us skill beastshots. Quote Share this post Link to post
ProGressive 740 Report post Posted August 1, 2016 Only bugs, no shots Quote Share this post Link to post
Wat 6 Report post Posted August 1, 2016 its giving better bonus than fighter weapon bcoz its harder to ench mage weapon (lower chance - check urself) and 2nd thing that mages re 1 shot compared to others 400 items Itemtill +4 till +5till +6Black Ore Necklace 71,75% 32,75% 26,00%Avadon Circlet 72,50% 31,00% 24,50%Avadon Robe 100,0% 67,75% 33,25%Sword of Valhalla 49,75% 50,25% 43,50%Bow of Peril 65,00% 63,25% 67,25%Damascus 66,00% 67,00% 61,75%it is harder to enchant a Magical Weapon (B-grade) than the Physical one. another thing i see no comparsion to pet ss. Mage can have 12 wep, but still do less than ur ES summoner. U can farm all day infinite mana. Mage 12 wep still sit every 5 mob to regenwhere did you get that data? can you send the link ? *-* Quote Share this post Link to post
Erre 6 Report post Posted August 1, 2016 FIX BUG, then we could talk 'bout BEAST SS. Bug is a priority I think Quote Share this post Link to post
vsD 6 Report post Posted August 1, 2016 its giving better bonus than fighter weapon bcoz its harder to ench mage weapon (lower chance - check urself) and 2nd thing that mages re 1 shot compared to others 400 items Itemtill +4 till +5till +6Black Ore Necklace 71,75% 32,75% 26,00%Avadon Circlet 72,50% 31,00% 24,50%Avadon Robe 100,0% 67,75% 33,25%Sword of Valhalla 49,75% 50,25% 43,50%Bow of Peril 65,00% 63,25% 67,25%Damascus 66,00% 67,00% 61,75%it is harder to enchant a Magical Weapon (B-grade) than the Physical one. another thing i see no comparsion to pet ss. Mage can have 12 wep, but still do less than ur ES summoner. U can farm all day infinite mana. Mage 12 wep still sit every 5 mob to regenI really can't believe that considering most of the +12-15 weaps are mage weaps LOL That one korean cp has a +15 homunculus on every nuker. Do u see any non-mage cp with +15 weaps on all dds? Quote Share this post Link to post
westj 20 Report post Posted August 1, 2016 its giving better bonus than fighter weapon bcoz its harder to ench mage weapon (lower chance - check urself) and 2nd thing that mages re 1 shot compared to others 400 items Itemtill +4 till +5till +6Black Ore Necklace 71,75% 32,75% 26,00%Avadon Circlet 72,50% 31,00% 24,50%Avadon Robe 100,0% 67,75% 33,25%Sword of Valhalla 49,75% 50,25% 43,50%Bow of Peril 65,00% 63,25% 67,25%Damascus 66,00% 67,00% 61,75%it is harder to enchant a Magical Weapon (B-grade) than the Physical one. another thing i see no comparsion to pet ss. Mage can have 12 wep, but still do less than ur ES summoner. U can farm all day infinite mana. Mage 12 wep still sit every 5 mob to regenI really can't believe that considering most of the +12-15 weaps are mage weaps LOL That one korean cp has a +15 homunculus on every nuker. Do u see any non-mage cp with +15 weaps on all dds?in that korean cp something looks weird... Quote Share this post Link to post
Nami 2 Report post Posted August 2, 2016 its giving better bonus than fighter weapon bcoz its harder to ench mage weapon (lower chance - check urself) and 2nd thing that mages re 1 shot compared to others 400 items Itemtill +4 till +5till +6Black Ore Necklace 71,75% 32,75% 26,00%Avadon Circlet 72,50% 31,00% 24,50%Avadon Robe 100,0% 67,75% 33,25%Sword of Valhalla 49,75% 50,25% 43,50%Bow of Peril 65,00% 63,25% 67,25%Damascus 66,00% 67,00% 61,75%it is harder to enchant a Magical Weapon (B-grade) than the Physical one. another thing i see no comparsion to pet ss. Mage can have 12 wep, but still do less than ur ES summoner. U can farm all day infinite mana. Mage 12 wep still sit every 5 mob to regenI really can't believe that considering most of the +12-15 weaps are mage weaps LOL That one korean cp has a +15 homunculus on every nuker. Do u see any non-mage cp with +15 weaps on all dds?in that korean cp something looks weird... +15 weapon is just to keep style mode:on when PR. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
FryderykChopin 853 Report post Posted August 2, 2016 FIX BUG, then we could talk 'bout BEAST SS. Bug is a priority I thinkI mean you can't have everything, you know... You already have bugs, it would be too greedy to want shots as well Quote Share this post Link to post
