balance in oly

[archa 15]

everybody knows pony,da,necro are the cancer in oly,they were too op so gm nerfed them.

here is the problem for now,necro and da's fear all 12S cd in descripation,but in the real mathes,the cd of necro is 8S,

da is 11S,they should be the same.

In the past days,at least these 3 cancers can fix each other,but da is totally fked nowadays,few ppl playing da in oly,da is the 

most skillful class of these 3 classes,its a interesting class,now,its not fun at all.

we want more skillful players join oly,not all these brainless classes such like summoners/titan/necro/tk.

necro has 2*slience/para/fear meanwhile da has only fear.if you got permanent fear the matches wont be fun,because you can do nothing,

consider about the landing rate of fear has already been nerfed,and the effect of fear lasts 7s,da's fear should be 7-8S cd,at least it should be the same 

with necro meanwhile necro has 2*slience which the effect lasts 24s and very short cd.

[Lykra 10]

DAs are struggling on Olympiad?

[Setzer 172]

First thing to fix would be core skill cleaning doom and silence debuff.

Doom is such an op skill (almost 100% land rate) and you can Just use liberate one time within an hour (If equiped on fight).

Cd of necro fear i already reported last month, its also ridiculous.

For me, core and liberate should remove ANY debuff including fear, It would give more dinamism on fights.

Why stun and hold classes have always to be harmed agaisnt fear classes? (Im taking about equips, core and liberate).

Gogo balance San0

 

 

[Setzer 172]

Now taking about da OP is forgeting about mass debuff skills, harmstring, healing and stun.

Da is still one of the most op classes even with fear nerfed.

[Lykra 10]

1 hour ago, Setzer said:

Now taking about da OP is forgeting about mass debuff skills, harmstring, healing and stun.

Da is still one of the most op classes even with fear nerfed.

Ding ding ding. This is some sort of weird “buff DA” post when they’re S tier class.

[Lykra 10]

1 hour ago, Setzer said:

First thing to fix would be core skill cleaning doom and silence debuff.

Doom is such an op skill (almost 100% land rate) and you can Just use liberate one time within an hour (If equiped on fight).

Cd of necro fear i already reported last month, its also ridiculous.

For me, core and liberate should remove ANY debuff including fear, It would give more dinamism on fights.

Why stun and hold classes have always to be harmed agaisnt fear classes? (Im taking about equips, core and liberate).

Gogo balance San0

 

 

I agree. I actually think Core should remove all debuffs and the cooldown should reset upon Olympiad entry, same as talismans. The cooldowns should function the same - either they all reset or they all do not.

If the purpose is to encourage skilled play and allow counterplay to all classes this would accomplish those goals.

[archa 15]

5 hours ago, Setzer said:

Now taking about da OP is forgeting about mass debuff skills, harmstring, healing and stun.

Da is still one of the most op classes even with fear nerfed.

da si a decent class,but lower chance to win necro and pony now,if necro is the biggest cancer in oly,then should be another cancer to fix it,

the rate of fear already been nerfed,fear is not as op as it was,all I want to say is da's fear cd should be same with necro's fear

[bjack 4]

6 hours ago, Setzer said:

Now taking about da OP is forgeting about mass debuff skills, harmstring, healing and stun.

Da is still one of the most op classes even with fear nerfed.

if you have tested the landing rate of harmstring,you will know its all about lv,84vs84,without mental shield,harmstring landing rate like 15%-20%，if with mental shield,the rate less than 10%.many classes have heal/stun skills,its not big deal.

nowadays,the landing rate of fear is less than 40%,its reasonable to reduce da's cd (just -3s,same with necro),the better strategy for da is use fear on summoners' pet rather than on master,with 11s cd,it wont work well.

I agree with your idea about core/liberate,and there are some bugs of liberate,sometimes it cant work when you click it 

[bjack 4]

the problem about fear is if you ate fear,you can do nothing to fight back,in this condition,it will be worse to fight with necro,necro has high dmg to kill u in 7s.

about slience,its the biggest problem,both cd/landing rate/duration ridiculous.fear is not a big deal nowadays.fear is a skill which better to use on pets.

[archa 15]

another big problem about oly is lilith/anakim runes,dion players dont have this problem,but believe me you will feel suck when the merge come.

save mana for important skills was a a very advanced skill,anakim lv6 helps players with boundless mana,it makes many classes become brainless classes

I prefer to ban anakim/lilith runes in oly,just help outside of oly.

[Lykra 10]

15 hours ago, bjack said:

if you have tested the landing rate of harmstring,you will know its all about lv,84vs84,without mental shield,harmstring landing rate like 15%-20%，if with mental shield,the rate less than 10%.many classes have heal/stun skills,its not big deal.

nowadays,the landing rate of fear is less than 40%,its reasonable to reduce da's cd (just -3s,same with necro),the better strategy for da is use fear on summoners' pet rather than on master,with 11s cd,it wont work well.

I agree with your idea about core/liberate,and there are some bugs of liberate,sometimes it cant work when you click it 

Wouldn’t it make more sense to increase Necro fear CD to be equal to DA? If these were underpowered characters I’d agree buff it, but you’re talking about 2 of the strongest classes.

[bjack 4]

12 hours ago, Lykra said:

Wouldn’t it make more sense to increase Necro fear CD to be equal to DA? If these were underpowered characters I’d agree buff it, but you’re talking about 2 of the strongest classes.

if you are talking about strongest class,nerf titan first.

[Poseidon 455]

just add power to this skill as it is next patches and it will already boost DA, coz now his power is only in 3 cancels, nothing more. i played several matches like 2-3 months ago. 

your winning strategy relies on cancel only. you dont do dmg, without locking the target into fear or stun (which breaks asfter 1-3 hits). so without full epics and 82 lvl char is trash.

https://l2wiki.com/essence/skills/dark_avenger/984_15_0.html

 

@San0

 

again i am fixing this server for free...glbb

Edited 10 hours ago by Poseidon