Stats info

[Eldifes 32]

Hello,

Wanted to get some info about stats what i found was l2 wiki (https://l2wiki.com/classic/Dyes_and_Tattoos).

Can you tell is this accurate and there is no other stats bonuses hidden like:

Con - giving stun ressist

Str - giving crit chance on skills

Men - giving mental attack ressist (fear)

@San0

 

[San0 2423]

con does not give stun resist.

str gives crit on some skills (exemple double crit chance on backstab)

men does not increase fear resistance.

[Reddish 258]

@San0

wow-wow!
FROM ALL DAGGERS OF THE SERVER, THIS IS CRITICAL!
Does DEX affect vital-hit(any blow landing) chance?

Also! Does RACE give different modifiers here, like it was on la2 till (page 24) classic?

Edited June 22, 2020 by Reddish

[Rizos 1487]

1 hour ago, Reddish said:

@San0

wow-wow!
FROM ALL DAGGERS OF THE SERVER, THIS IS CRITICAL!
Does DEX affect vital-hit(any blow landing) chance?

Also! Does RACE give different modifiers here, like it was on la2 till (page 24) classic?

Dex increase blow landrate and a little bit of 2x crit chance, str gives x2 crit chance
 

tested on club TH backstab skill

Edited June 22, 2020 by Rizos

[Reddish 258]

Welp, its 2 years old, but still thx, seems pretty collerated with my tests. But I tried with Lethal+Ddly faceblows and only 100 tries

Still

2 hours ago, Reddish said:

Also! Does RACE give different modifiers here, like it was on la2 till (page 24) classic?

And if its possible, numbers? Would be super cool

[Torres 22]

7 hours ago, Rizos said:

Dex increase blow landrate and a little bit of 2x crit chance, str gives x2 crit chance
 

tested on club TH backstab skill

According to that, what are the best possible combinations?

 

12 hours ago, San0 said:

con does not give stun resist.

wow, this is news for me!

[Ovid 17]

If we're talking about stats, how much mdef does one need to be able to resist Monster Slow curse? As a tank, it is really annoying to always get slowed.  

[Reddish 258]

6 hours ago, Torres said:

According to that, what are the best possible combinations?

 

Depends on ur play style. All daggers here which ever played maxed STR. I have other opinion than that, and try to balance out between max land rate and x2dmg chance.
So it's only up to you and countless PVPs to show which will be the best combination.
Also that RACE question is not just a question, CON stat show that different races here have different modifiers  from each +/-1 CON. So if we believe it comes the same for all stats, then AW/PW/TH have different x2 chance from each STR unit and same with DEX and land rate.

Land rate we tested in our CP, and it FEELS (no numbers, just experience) that AW needs less DEX to max his land rate (no buffs and othell), than TH

Edited June 23, 2020 by Reddish

[LuizM 76]

5 hours ago, Reddish said:

Depends on ur play style. All daggers here which ever played maxed STR. I have other opinion than that, and try to balance out between max land rate and x2dmg chance.
So it's only up to you and countless PVPs to show which will be the best combination.
Also that RACE question is not just a question, CON stat show that different races here have different modifiers  from each +/-1 CON. So if we believe it comes the same for all stats, then AW/PW/TH have different x2 chance from each STR unit and same with DEX and land rate.

Land rate we tested in our CP, and it FEELS (no numbers, just experience) that AW needs less DEX to max his land rate (no buffs and othell), than TH

it all depends on your equipment ... sadly if you are a dagger and you want to be competitive you will need propper dyes + +8 light set + baium talisman (minimum to be able to do any damage) and + baium ring lvl 3 if you want to be competitive in olympiads 

Edited June 23, 2020 by LuizM

[MoDoy 1772]

42 minutes ago, LuizM said:

it all depends on your equipment ... sadly if you are a dagger and you want to be competitive you will need propper dyes + +8 light set + baium talisman (minimum to be able to do any damage) and + baium ring lvl 3 if you want to be competitive in olympiads 

instead of baium talisman i have toi 6 and instead of baium 3 i have aq 3, can i still become competitive in olympiad? :< 

[Rizos 1487]

Oly is not that big problem. Open world pvp with cc + cop bufs is the real cancer of dagger, even tyrant hit more with raging force

[ciopson 0]

1 hour ago, MoDoy said:

instead of baium talisman i have toi 6 and instead of baium 3 i have aq 3, can i still become competitive in olympiad? :< 

pretty sure you are competetive coz you had hero few times

[Torres 22]

20 hours ago, Reddish said:

Depends on ur play style. All daggers here which ever played maxed STR. I have other opinion than that, and try to balance out between max land rate and x2dmg chance.
So it's only up to you and countless PVPs to show which will be the best combination.
Also that RACE question is not just a question, CON stat show that different races here have different modifiers  from each +/-1 CON. So if we believe it comes the same for all stats, then AW/PW/TH have different x2 chance from each STR unit and same with DEX and land rate.

Land rate we tested in our CP, and it FEELS (no numbers, just experience) that AW needs less DEX to max his land rate (no buffs and othell), than TH

So CON dye is never a good option?

[Reddish 258]

6 hours ago, Torres said:

So CON dye is never a good option?

Not rly. Some daggers have nice equipment and buff, so they can allow them self to make little more sustain

[Ovid 17]

Is mdef working right in classic, on this erver?

I find it ridiculous to get Slow from Light Blue monster, when you have 635 mdef. Poison as well. 

How much mdef do you need to actually resist CC from mobs?

Edited June 27, 2020 by Ovid

[Rizos 1487]

M def doesn't resist debufs. Mobs debugs land even on high lvl chars, I think it worked the same on official

[Ovid 17]

2 hours ago, Rizos said:

M def doesn't resist debufs. Mobs debugs land even on high lvl chars, I think it worked the same on official

Thanks for the info.

This reality sucks. Knowing that whatever high defense you have, you just get CC anyway. It's like, why bother to live if you'll die anyway, : ))