Leaderboard

Just wanted to share my thoughts, its gonna be a bit negative - Events: ok ok i know current event is copy of past event because of works on update, but.... BUT every event for past 3 years is same pattern. Farm 30 items, do some kind of "ritual procedure"(kill pumpkin, kill snowman etc), get very very medicore reward. Every event is same just the ritual procedure changes. Everytime rewards are same, i never see ppl geting hyped from event like "i take 1 week off from work will nolife this event its fking great!". Rewards are always so low u almost dont make any profit compared to days w/o event so it doesnt matter u play more during event or not. What is even worse, WHEN EVENT HAPPENS, AND YOU WANT TO FARM EVENT YOU ARE FORCED TO SAY TO CP MEMBERS TO GO FARM SOLO ON BOX CHAR BECAUSE IF YOU GO TO PARTY LOCATION WITH YOUR PACK, YOU GET LIKE 10 ITEMS/BUFF ROUND IN GC (when u split ur cp into 5 ppl farming solo, all together farm 150 event items). Isnt it retarded gc mob drop 1 event item while mob in abg also drop 1 item (abg mob has only 25% worse drop rate). Epic rewards? sure, you get either lvl 1 time limited epic(very low chance for time limited? LOL!) - useless anyway as lvl 1 epics dontr give any bonuses and you cant merge em into lvl 3 if you get several lvl 1 from event. Lvl 3 epics? yea i think it happened once, it was pretty good idea althought the chance was very low. Also couldnt use the epic on oly. New players who didnt open fat wallet could have tried their strength on oly with such epics, why such limitation? Dont you want new ppl to join oly? FI6 box on anniversary? yea again great idea on paper, until you realise the item cant be used on olympiad. More problems about FI talisman on FI farm zone complains. - Farm content: Ok what do we have? devil isle with shabi farming gem a stoping every low lvl pt to use decent location for 70 ppl Zaken scrols? yea... Ever heard about rmt farmers? r33team? yea they play here. Where to find em? YES! on devil isle zaken scrols! They do nothing but farm adena to sell it for $. Dont give a sh1t about any clan or epic, just log everyday when its night time, drop wars with any clan, farm scrols, sell on market and rmt adena. You might say PK THEM! Yea, they are 77 lvl, dont give a damnt about exp, can make it back in 5 min after night ends, while you waste adena for pk scrols and risk to drop ur epics. Wanna try to farm scrol? they just log 3 tyrants and hit chest everytime it spawn so they get nothing and u get nothing. In the end you will give up because you dont get $$$ paid for siting there plus they have stacked probably like 10k of these scrols already so even if you dont let em farm and they dont let u farm for a week, they keep selling their scrols from wh and ull be forced to buy from them and help rmt clan make more $. Metalgear and qianup sounds familiar? Why not to make zaken scrols not tradeable and cut the rmt business and let more casual ppl get the scrols by themself? GC? Ok gc is good for meele parties, but farming it for 3 years straight is boring like hell. Every new zone has worse exp, FI has much worse exp for full pt farm, New aoe zone much worse exp. WHY?! Why new zones are worse and worse and ppl are forced to farm 3 years old location as best exp spot? By logic every new location should be better than old so ppl have reason to migrate. Some positives? Sure, good job with cuting off pullers from gc, mobs are cool for 76-80 ppl, pretty tanky, good exp per mob, pretty hard hiting - healers/debufers can feel useful on this stage of game. You are able to farm there daily quest which motivates ppl a lot, you can even aoe with glads/tyrants/mages FI? Pretty bad concept with carbonemys giving crazy exp while hiting VERY weak. Carbos bugged, you see them moving slower than they do in reality. People pull away normal mobs and abuse solo farm on party zone killing just carbonemys making similar exp as in gc. When you try to farm FI normally you make half of GC exp - sad story. Trex? yea... wasnt it supposed to make ppl pvp? Why ppl dont pvp for it you might ask. Its so squishy ppl camp there with tyrants. For some reason it spawn on solo zone while solo zone ppl cant kill it alone. Before ppl from party zone reach it its dead cos 2 tyrants can kill it in 1 minute and soe before you arrive so how to pvp?. Why its so squishy? dont ask me, all i can tell you it has added resists for meele which was supposed to prevent orcs kill it fast. Guess what, you can bypass it, when you stimga trex, you "turn off" meele resist buff and you start to make like 5x more dmg than w/o stigma. Bug? probably yes. So in the end its not ppl who farm FI, kill trex but ppl who relog orcs on FI solo zone and kill it before any1 can arrive. Why not to make trex spawn with x chance while kiling FI mobs? Why not making it much more tanky. Why not decreasing respawn time/increasing drop rate as we move on with new updates and new zones? Ok so no exp, no trex farm, no pvp, why to farm there? There is 1 solid reason. Very good quest that helps new players catch up with bracelet, one of rare new things on club that was well made. Other reason is to go spoil NM/MJ plate parts to make some adena. another good reason is farming daily quest - next good idea from club admins, sadly you farm it 2x slower than in gc. drop rate from mobs - seems ok especially armor parts, and commanders drop/ptero drop is good FI talisman? pretty bugged. SKill power bonus doesnt work on some skills for example dagger skills. Clarity effect? Doesnt work on mage/healer skills - classes that care the most bout mana management. Stun attack? next bug, talik gives stun defence not attack - cry more warlords, cost efficiency? Totally not worth it. You spend 1,5b to try 10% chance to get fi lvl 5. Where is the problem? Mostly problem lies in trex fang bottleneck. Drop rate is low, respawn long, considering u farm every trex u can click 1 talisman on whole server per 1-2 weeks. (1 on whole server(!)), Ppl tend to overprice fangs cos they monopolize it. They dont try their own talik so why let others to do it cheap if farm goes so slow right? Wanna farm trex? go camp it every 2h standing on FI solo location doing nothing instead of taking ur cp for exp. Lilith/Anakim? Please... im getting pissed when i think about it. Lets start from positives. On paper it looks good, like many things on club. New zone for aoe classes, new zone with high lvl mobs, mobs have gem a, a grade hvy/robe parts and even full items! New bosses with crazy drops and new item to farm(!) - thing ppl get the most hype to play. Looks good on paper huh? I bet you waited like crazy for new update and planned to farm hard on holiday period. In reality its same sh1t like events on club. Not worth to update ur client, better go farm gc, ull get more adena and better exp expectations vs reality: high lvl mobs, easier way to reach 82? Nope, exp worse than in 3 years old location(gc) (expectations)Finally spot for mages? In theory yes, you can aoe there. (reality)In fact once you see destro aoe there with lance, you will realise its not mage farm spot but destro farm spot. Better go aoe in gc with proper ol/wl debufing mobs its not that hard and you make more exp than in new zone plus dont need so many active pullers. Also mobs in new zone have high m def and weak p def destro kill em with 3-4 crits from polearm, Mage need like 20 nukes to kill royal knight. Exp per mob is joke, 2 types of mobs got exp adjusted, other mobs give similar exp like FI solo zone (expectations)Finally ppl can farm gem a, gem a price will drop, craft of a grades will be finally worth it! market will move from b grades ++ towards a grades and "inflate" b grades +16-20 which gives new commers oportunity to catch up! (reality)NOPE! Drop rate on new zone sux hard, You get more items from FI 1 by 1 farm than lilith/anakim fields aoe. Each item has rly low chance to drop, You can farm several hours and drop 0 gem a or a grade parts for robe. Add the fact the zone sucks for exp, no1 will farm there so market will not receive ez source of Gem A. Rip ur dreams. (expectations)Im bored to farm same mobs for 3 years, FK GC/FI, lets make primes in new zone! (reality)Sure bro. Once you realize you cant farm bracelet coins, or daily quest in new zone there is ZERO SENSE to go there. No quests, no daily, no exp, no drop. Why new area doesnt offer smth every1 would go there instead of old spots. Thats how l2 updates always worked like, right?GC added? - a grades started to drop, FI added? - new talisman, on official goddard teritory added? - attibute system, s grades. Lilith anakim added? You can farm old items, with lower chance than in old locations, and get lower exp than in old locations. Why no1 farms there now right? Oh i almost forgot. There are fortresses added with lilith and anakim boss. Wait what? Isnt it urban legend? Any1 saw any fortress? Does it even work? 1 week passed since update, no1 saw it. If it even works then it needs so many mobs to be killed that its as profitable as club events - PvP Ok, here you can find some positives. What did we have in past - dagger fixed, maybe not op but if u know how to play it and have good gear, ull have fun, still need some adjustments after other classes got excape tool and ur shadowstep has 1 min reuse and cost a lot of mp imo, and u cant lvl up bleed while destros have 2x stronger bleed - Archers- bad but atleast buffed. Pretty situational class, Buff didnt affect em too much but atleast they get smth every update. Much more worth to play mage than archer imo - Mages: Decreased mana cost, kiss of eva, boosted skill power, physical silence, blink. This class received the definitely the most love lately - in my opinion good changes, especially closing gap between necro and elemental mage - Destros: definitely positive changes, especially last update. Spirit of shilien will be too OP plus help solo farmers to kill any boss while vamping 40%(BAD!) but pvp wise i like the changes. Probably most op class after recent update - WLs good change with stun debuff, sadly FI talisman is bugged so you cant use full potential of the class. Need a lot of epix like dagger to be efficient ;( - Summoners - definitely healthier than on official. Most of dmg comes from summon not from summoner being nuker. Very good class for pvp/pve/oly. Sarly many summoners still live in 2018 and dont have meele weapon with othel for farm - PvP zones on epics Negatives: - A lot of "pussy friendly" things like canceling war w/o consequences, farming endgame locs/zaken scrols pretty much w/o any punishment - No spot to fight for. There is no zone that is attractive for ppl that ppl would fight to farm there. Every spot is similar, 1 room in gc taken? u go to another, same on fi, same in new location - Trex mentioned above, too easy to kill, before enemies can arrive. You dont see message if ur too far - Hekaton - same bug as on trex, cant see msg when it die too far. Drops not too attractive, definitely too squishy, ez to kill before enemy arrives. - Zaken scrols? RMT swamp, drop war and enemy cant do anythign about ur existence New commers? server advertisement looks ok. Problem is ppl that come to server see every1 run in star wars mode, +8 set, +16 weapon b grade. To get similar gear you need to invest several thausand euros. For what, to start on old server? Even if you want to give this server a chance, you are forced to pay 10 euro to exp buffer on ur ass as total newbie on 20lvl location. Why Admins dont make some changes new ppl can play several months w/o paying for premium here? Why endgame doesnt move forward? On official new zones are added, new grade of items. New items make old items +++ "inflate". For example s grade +0 has stats of b grade +16. plus you get bigger soulshot bonus. This way you join the server, farm new zone and can farm items that are equivalent of these b grades +16, every1 has on the server, so you can catch up easy. For some reason club doesnt go into this direction. Same goes for exp. New zone should have much better exp so ppl who didnt play that much before or just joined server have chance to catch up this 84 lvl ppl who nolifed in past updates. Thats how every official server worked. The longer server lives, the faster you can reach endgame plus "new endgame" is created for old players to farm. Also events could help new ppl. Get some time limited epics, go on oly, test things out without investing 2k euro to get baium3 End game? Pretty cancerous. You need to have a lot of box chars to farm "endgame content". AQ, core, orfen, zaken - you need low lvl chars. Tablets? low lvl char. Gem a? low lvl char cos new zone drop rate sux. going towards 82+? stay in gc and farm blue as new spots are worse. Epic priests? drop so low that not worth it plus u need low lvl char. Trex/hekaton? Have box char reloged while farming with main in different location. Final conclusion? Who remembers legendary "TIGER EVENT"? the event ppl farmed 500x 100% exp scrol per char/ 300 brez etc. My bet is club fkd up on this event hard, ppl stacked crazy amount of consumeables you usually need to donate to get. Admins were shocked, since then for 3 years straight they are always WAY TOO AFRAID to make smth cool for players. TO add some crazy good location to farm, to add some new meta items, to push endgame further with crazy exp locations/item drops,to make some relevant rewards from event/event drop rate. Everything Admins add since 3 years is average/low irrelevant stuff. Thats my opinion. We are just stucked in 2018 and only relevant things that changed since then are these new skills added to classes that i described in "PVP" section. We still farm same mobs, use same gear

Dear friends! It is time to announce Christmas contest winners! But first, we want to thank everyone, who put their time, effort and participated in the contest! All works were amazing, so it was really hard to pick winners, took us hours of discussion, disagreements and compromising. It came to the point, that we couldn't fit all works we loved the most into just 3 slots, so Art and Gift card categories got few extra winner slots. And now let's celebrate our winners! 1. L2Classic.club Christmas Gift card: DEADPOOLL JaneDo eXtremeBDSM Kim Asiasta Corruptor 2. L2Classic.club Christmas Video darksinger FriedShrimps Omens 3. L2Classic.club Christmas Comics Mjou PJR Bluewings 4. L2Classic.club Christmas Art Dafne Horus Pajuodele Yaeogk Congratulations! All works, both Winners and Participants, will be posted tomorrow! If you haven't find your name in the list, please, don't be sad and remember, that you made a great job, which is much appreciated by our whole team. And seeing such big interest in the contest, we will continue making them a lot more often, so everyone will get more chances to win! To claim your reward: For the winners: Send PM to Kse (not in live chat, just simple PM) from forum account listed above with message title: Christmas contest winner Give me nickname of a character where you want your reward (reward can be split between several characters by your choice, just remember, that as soon as it's delivered, it can not be transferred to any other character) and names of hat/agathion and a cloak. For participants: Send PM to Kse (not in live chat, just simple PM) from forum account listed above with message title: Christmas contest participant Give me nickname of a character where you want your reward (reward can be split between several characters by your choice, just remember, that as soon as it's delivered, it can not be transferred to any other character) If you participated in more than one category and didn't win in any, you will get participant rewards for each category you participated in If you participated in more than one category and won in one, you will get winner reward + participant rewards for each category you participated in without winning Rewards delivery will start as soon as majority of participants will request it, so, please, be patient Best regards, Classic Team

Sano, Your messaging or intent of the new zone is not coming through. You say it is to "fill a hole for a type of farm", but as many people are saying the drops and exp do not make sense for how you have created the area. THIS IS THE WHOLE ARGUEMENT. Ok. So main point is to have AOE area for A-grade items. Great. Have it drop all sorts of key mats, and other materials. Great. Since area is AOE, have mobs with "lower" exp values. Ok, but should probably be fairly comparable to other areas if it is still a group area (your example of ABG, ABG is a top EXP location. Understandably this new area does not need to be TOP exp). Is a group area with A-grade items. New area has mobs at 81 min level.... 2 higher than FI and 5 higher than GC. So you have to be a fairly high level just so you can hit, CC, etc. As you are stating the idea is to make it a different type of A-grade area for AOE. MOST AOE areas including using CC's and debuffs, but mobs are so high that they wont land unless you are already high level. If you are already high level you have figured out how to farm in either GC, FI, or SV (yikes) efficiently enough to get to those levels. And if you have figured out how to farm in those other locations why go to new fields because they are just worse in almost every aspect. Effectively you are telling the player base F*** you, this is how the area will be while the players are telling you it doesnt make sense. Rizos's whole post was to show where there are actual holes in the game and some ideas on how to fix them. You are saying that no AOE spot is a hole in the game but you filled it about as much as . O This post is open for pointing out real holes and trying to address them. We get it you have limited resources and cant fix all the things we cry about, but there have been multiple discussions now on how this zone can more effectively fill the AOE hole that you are trying to fill. I'll give you and your team tons of credit. You have made some great changes and additions to that game that keep it interesting. New skills, new zones, new weps with Antharas patch. It's good content. This new area just feels like a waste of time and effort though. Took all the time to make and balance this area, for it to be best as a "solo" grind spot to replace SV but with no quest because the exp is bad and is high level requirement. I hope you can read what people are saying and not hear that they hate what you did, but are trying to explain how it does not make sense as a farming location.

If not even CHINA farming there,it speaks for itself.

we do not ignore what you guys say or your opinions, its just not possible to do everything you guys want done and what the rest of people want done all at same time and in the speed you want done. its basically this simple. you guys want X, other group of people want Y, other group of people want Z and somehow we need to split our time in trying to somewhat please everyone, so obviously is not possible, this patch was the last patch to "finish" the old saga, for a exemple this was the last place where A grade will be farmable, from here on its time for a new "era" lets call it. the idea of adding heine into the map was already a preparation for the next step where bigger stuff comes in. this pack was most just kinda of a closure of a chapter and preparation for the beginning of a new one.

How about the lvl 1 epics permanent from events? (Core,Aq,Orfen) Give chance to plebs to win those!!!!

we are currently working on a way to make that RMT farm in DI not possible to exploit with the scroll stacking situation. about new people the situation is more complicated due to the herp derp 6 year old server not worth to play tho we have planed for future patches a more streamline lvling way to close the time and investment needed for players to reach higher lvevels" bug - bug report on forum. there will be changes for the tali in future and the way its achieved.

Agreed with all. The part of the free box for x's amount of time was teh best part, some love for newbie comers will be a huge plus..

Giants Cave for the rest of club lifes. Thats what sano ment. kkkk