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Dear players! Let's spice the rest of event period up? Starting tomorrow, 14.03.2025 (UTC+2) and all the way till Event end (31.03.2025) enjoy EXP/SP Boost! For Dion: EXP/SP Bonus is x2 For TI: EXP/SP Bonus is x1.3 And that's not it! ALL donations, made on 14.03.2025 - 16.03.2025 (UTC+2) will come with 15% Bonus! Have a great time on L2Classic.club! Sincerely, Classic Team

I don't think this atracts more people. I've chosen this server due to classic class change quests + absent npc buffers. I would rather improve end-game mechanics: Like craft of A gear (which is not possible due to high A Gem price and breaks spoil/crafting mechanism) Or opening catacombs/necropolises

The Antharas raid on Dion server has been running for several months. To suddenly turn it off because a few enemy clans asked for it feels like "GM interference in the game". This is unfair. On Talking Island server, Antharas has been respawning on a consistent schedule for years. For years!!! Fairly!!! Every 10 days!!! So why is Antharas respawn disabled on Dion, but still enabled on Talking Island? It would be fair if both Dion and Talking Island had Antharas respawns on. If it is hard to change while respawns are active, the fair way is to announce a consistent respawn schedule. [If even this is not accepted, then please also turn Antharas off on Talking Island.] [That would at least be fair.] (If Antharas respawns are turned off, then for some time there will be no Antharas on Dion or Talking Island. The result is clear. Players who already own Antharas Earrings will make huge profit from price increase. Item balance will be broken.) (Do you think this is a good outcome?) Key Point: Turn on Antharas respawns on both Dion and Talking Island. No problem—just turn it on, whether respawns are consistent or random. Please share your opinion. We love the Dion server and the Talking Island server.

Dear players! As the leaves begin to fall and the air grows cooler, it’s the perfect season to gather strength for new adventures. To celebrate the spirit of autumn, we’re bringing you a series of Bonus Days filled with extra power and faster progression! ✨ Schedule: 12.09.2025 (after maintenance) – 15.09.2025 (maintenance): 🌟 x3 EXP/SP 15.09.2025 (after maintenance) – 19.09.2025 (maintenance): 🍁 x2 EXP/SP 19.09.2025 (after maintenance) – 22.09.2025 (maintenance): 🌟 x3 EXP/SP 22.09.2025 (after maintenance) – 29.09.2025 (maintenance): 🍁 x2 EXP/SP 🌟 Sharpen your blades, rally your friends, and embrace this golden season of growth—because just like autumn leaves, these moments won’t last forever. 🍁 And that’s not all! This autumn, it’s also becoming much easier to begin your journey on our server! Starting 12.09.2025 and all the way forward, every character will receive new passive skills that grant additional EXP/SP bonuses depending on level: Lv. 1–76: 🍂 +100% EXP/SP Lv. 77–79: 🍂 +50% EXP/SP Lv. 80+: 🍂 +10% EXP/SP 🔥 Whether you’re creating a brand new character or strengthening your heroes, the path forward has never been smoother. 🌟 Make the most of this golden season on L2Classic.club Dion server! Sincerely, Classic Team

This topic will cover the changes coming to DION x3 server in next monday - 21.04.2025 1 - HUNTING ZONES 2 - ITEMS 3 - NEW EPIC BOSS - ANTHARAS 4 - OTHER CHANGES 5 - NEW FEATURE - EPIC SLAYERS BANNERS HUNTING ZONES The Hunters guild recovered from one of their expeditions to some ancient temple's library some scrolls mentioning 2 ancient tribes that have been at war since the beginning of their existence. The Ketra orcs and the Varka silenos. Scrolls talk about a mysterious island, with some especial power and some unique relics hidden within. They talk about how this tribes have battled each other for ages in order to gain control over that island, not only for the chance of finding this relics, but due to the strategic position of the island being it was a completely isolated place from the rest of the world and hard for someone to attack it so it would be a very safe outpost for any tribe at war. Reading this, the hunters guild immediately decided they wanted to study this island and this tribes, not only to know what war secrets and combat tactics this tribes might have (being them a warrior tribe for so long sure they would have something you could learn from), but also they were very curious about this relics the scrolls talked about, with some passages of the text mentioning "ancient weapons of great power". They formed a expedition led by Master Hunter Helena, a very young but very skillful hunter in the guild. When the expedition arrived to this mysterious island, they figured out something was not as much as the scrolls described. Upon landing on the island they right away start feeling a wicked feeling of intimidation, like something was living there that they have never seen before, or even heard about it before, and its power was so huge that they could feel it in the air around them... This island definitely had some wicked power about it. When they ventured in the island they quickly realized the stories from the scrolls were no longer real. You could indeed find some ruins and reminiscences of what once might have been a Varka outpost, and not further ahead what was left of a Ketra village, but this tribes no longer live in here. Houses still standing, you can still see their flags up on the poles, there is still weapons and armors and daily utensils laying around, but no sign of any living creature that once belonged to this tribes... Not even any bodies... Shocked by what they found on their first day of expedition and with the fall of dusk, the expedition decides to go back to the beach and set camp for the night. There is more to investigate tomorrow. As the night sets, weird noises can be heard from inside of the island, sometimes heavy stomping, sometimes loud roars, and sometimes just a so strong silence that could make their souls chill. Helena wakes up next morning just to find she is the only one left in the encampment. All the gear from all members is still around, all their equipment, cloths, tools, everything still there, except the members of the team themselves. Left alone in this new mysterious world, young Helena made this her home and decided she would figure out all about this island, being it what now seems to be faulty information from the ancient scrolls, or something else that is going on in that Forgotten Island. RELEVANT ZONE INFO - Recommended levels: 79+. - Characters under level 76 are not allowed in this territory and will automatically be teleported out of the island. - When escapes are used on the island character will be teleported to Aden. Outside zone recommended group: Solo / small group. Inside zone recommended group: Full group. - Monsters on the island are mostly all social and will help each other. - Monsters on the island are mostly aggressive. Pterosaurs patrol the inside part of the island and are slightly stronger then the rest of the monsters and use a set of different debuffs that can go from simple bleeds to stronger debuffs like paralyze. Tyrannosauros can spawn ANYWHERE in the full island, they are much stronger then the rest of the monsters and its advised to not take on them alone. Sailren is the boss of the island, he lives in a hidden cave and will come out only to feed, or to fight whoever is crazy enough to challenge him. Helena is your friendly NPC in the island. You can talk with her to buy normal grocery items, especial items or to challenge Sailren. ITEMS Together with Frogotten Island territory, a new array of weapons A grade will be available. - This weapons can only be obtained in the Forgotten Island. - Different recipes and parts can be spoiled in the different monsters both on solo and group area. - Pterasaur can give by spoil any recipe or part. - Tyrannossaurus can give by spoil or drop any recipe or part. - Sailren has a small chance of droping the full item. - Create Item level 8 is required to be able to craft this items. Sirra Blade Naga Storm Cabrio's Hand Behemoth Tuning Fork Sobekk's Hurricane Themi's Tongue Shyeed's Bow Barakiel's Axe Daimon Crystal Sword of Ipos Tiphon's Spear PRIMEVAL TALISMAN Helena will have available a new talisman that can be improved into a better one using some items that can be farmed in the island together with the normal items required to make a talisman. NAME EFFECT REQUIRED Primeval Talisman - Scout pdef 19, mdef 16, poison bleed resist/attack 5% stun attack 5% MEN+1 40x Elemental Stone 10x Talisman Crystal CANNOT TRADE/DROP 100x Primeval Bones Primeval Talisman - Searcher pdef 31 mdef 22 poison bleed root resist/attack 5% stun attack 5% skill reuse-1% MEN+1 CON+1 40x Elemntal Stone 20x Talisman Crystal 150x Primeval Bones 100x Dinosaur Tissue CANNOT TRADE/DROP 1x Primeval Talisman - Scout Primeval Talisman - Ranger pdef 42 mdef 30 poison bleed root resist/attack 5% mental resist 5% stun attack 5% skill reuse -1% mp consumption -1% MEN+1 CON+1 DEX+1 100x Elemental Stone 30x Talisman Crystal 200x Primeval Bones 100x Dinosaur Tissue 10x Carbonemys Shell CANNOT TRADE/DROP 1x Primeval Talisman - Searcher Primeval Talisman - Escort pdef 51 mdef 39 poison bleed root attack/resist 6% mental resist 6% stun attack 6% skill reuse -2% mp consumption -2% MEN+1 CON+1 DEX+1 WIT+1 100x Elemental Stone 40x Talisman Crystal 250x Primeval Bones 200x Dinosaur Tissue 50x Carbonemys Shell 10x Pterosaur Talon CANNOT TRADE/DROP 1x Primeval Talisman - Ranger Primeval Talisman - Commander pdef 62 mdef 49 poison bleed root resist/attack 8% mental resist 8% stun attack 8% skill reuse -2% mp consumption -2% skill power +1% MEN+1 CON+1 DEX+1 WIT+1 INT+1 200x Elemental Stone 50x Talisman Crystal 300x Primeval Bones 200x Dinosaur Tissue 50x Carbonemys Shell 15x Pterasaur Talon 5x Tyrannosaurus Fang CANNOT TRADE/DROP 1x Primeval Talisman - Escort Primeval Talisman - Leader pdef 73 mdef 63 poison bleed root resist/attack 10% mental resist 10% stun attack 10% skill reuse -3% mpsoncumption -3% skill power +2% MEN+1 CON+1 DEX+1 WIT+1 INT+1 STR+1 200x Elemental Stone 100x Talisman Crystal 500x Primeval Bones 200x Dinosaur tissue 50x Carbonemys Shell 15x Pterasaur Talon 5x Tyrannosaurus Fang 1x Sailren Claw Adena 50.000.000 CAN TRADE/DROP 1x Primeval Talisman - Commander System works similar way with tower of insolence talisman, you bring the items to Helena and you can try to upgrade your talisman to the next level, note that with exception of first and last level, upgrade can fail and leave you with the same talisman you had or in some cases even delevel it for the version before. NOTE: As of this moment Dion Sailren will not be dropping Forgotten Scrolls for the Rune skills. NEW EPIC BOSS - ANTHARAS Antharas the Land Dragon has arrived to the club to wreck havoc on everyone who dares to face it. To face Antharas you need to dwell inside of the deeps of her lair. Deep inside Lair of Anthars you will find the Heart of Warding. This is the seal keeping her locked inside of the nest and protecting us all from what would be the world if this evil beast would roam free. The bravest adventures can try to challenge her by using a Portal Stone on the Heart of Warding to be allowed to go inside of her nest. Up to a max of 200 players can port inside to face her at one time. Be advised this is a foe like you never faced before, a daughter of a goddess, a dragon creature born out of evil, hate and spite with only one propose in life, destroy all that exists in the world in the name of Shilen. Bound to be the hardest challenge adventurers have to face since their path started. During the fight Antharas uses a huge list of different type of skills, some of them are only debuffs like paralyze and fear or curses, while other are some devastating damaging strikes, some of them are usually telegraphed by some specific movement she does before using the skills, try to study it to get the hang on whats going on in other to avoid getting your raid force obliterated by some of her skills. At certain stages of raid Antharas will call for the help of her Behemoth Dragons, this counts as a boss itself and will, if survive for long enough, enrage like normal bosses. Make sure you have either someone to control this or you kill them as they spawn to avoid extra chaos. At random occasions Antharas will also spawn a zerg of little dragon bombers, this one will spawn, run from center of the room to the walls and explode when their path finishes, make sure you are no where around one of them by then to avoid massive damage. By defeating Antharas players can obtain a lot of high end items including a new epic jewel - Antharas Earring. NAME EFFECT Antharas Earring mdef 74 mp+9 bleed resist/attack + 5% stun resist/attack +5% Mental resist/attack +5% Healing power +6% MP consumption + 3% Vampiric rage +2% In order to enter Antharas nest player need to obtain a portal stone. this item will be consumed by the Hear of Warding to allow the player to move inside of the nest. Every player wanting to go inside has to have on inventory a Portal Stone. To obtain portal stone players must complete the quest "Audience with the land dragon" Quest "Audience with the land dragon" can be started after lvl 76 by talking with Gabrielle in Giran Town next to the CH auctioneers NPCs Antharas will spawn 20 minutes after the first player ports inside. If no one attacks Antharas for a long time She will go back to sleep and kick everyone out of the nest. Antharas respawn time will be 10days +12h of random window. A CC of at least 25 people is needed to enter antharas lair. As per usual on new added epic bosses ANTHARAS WILL BE DEAD ON THE UPDATE DAY AND START SPAWN WINDOW FROM THAT SAME TIME. NOTE: To better accommodate the community state in terms of player base and gear levels on Dion server this antharas is a heavily nerfed version of antharas, We will monitor it closely in order to understand if more nerfs or buffs are needed in close future. OTHER CHANGES We understand sometimes is very frustrating for players to spend a long time to set up and kill epic raid bosses and at the end come out empty on terms of loot, sometimes even for multiple kills in a row. In order to try to combat this feeling, not only we are increasing chance of drops for epic jewels to 50% for all epics, as we are also adding a new item to the game in order to make it less painful if that coin toss doesnt go your way. With this new items jewel fragments, even if the boss doesnt drop your epic jewel, you can work your way into one. - Epic Jewell Fragment added to all epics and epic priests. - Epic Bosses have 100% chance to drop this fragments. - Epic Bosses Priests have a smaller chance of dropping this fragments. - Players can save this fragments and after a certain amount trade them on NPC Baggins for a respective epic jewel of the fragments they have. - Number of fragments required to exchange for a jewel are based on their spawn times, difficulty and power and goes as: Queen Ant - 6 Core - 6 Orfen - 6 Zaken - 4 Baium - 4 Antharas - 3 - Zaken HP/PDEF/MDEF reduced by 20%. - Zaken lvl 3 is now available on NPC Baggins. - Some adjustments were made to drop lists of Queen Ant, Core and Orfen in order to better match their higher level status (instead of lvl 40/50), so it can drop B grade items in a more constant and reliable way. Besides this groups changes, some new items were added to this bosses drop table in separated groups in order to make it more rewarding for the players who decide to hunt them. The new items added are: Life Stones (normal, mid and high) Enchant Armor A grade Enchant Weapon A grade Gemstone A grade Cloth Piece Greater Dye +4-4 (all types) Spellbook Box - 3rd Class Transfer NEW FEATURE - EPIC SLAYERS BANNERS After the slaying of a epic boss, an announcement will happen and a banner will now appear in Giran for a limited time that players can talk to and receive a buff. Banners will appear in center of Giran town. - QA/Core/Orfen banners gives lvl 1 buff: +30% EXP/SP, +1 to all Stats. - Baium/Zaken banners gives lvl 2 buff: +30% EXP/SP, +2 STR/INT, +1 DEX/WIT/MEN/CON. - Antharas banner gives lvl 3 buff: +30% EXP/SP, +2 STR/INT/DEX/WIT, +1 MEN/CON. - This buff last one hour and stays after death.

Dear players! After some reconsideration and feedback from our players, we want to make some changes in upcoming EXP bonuses And the bonus rates will be as followed: Dion: x2 EXP/SP Bonus during 14.02.2025 - 17.02.2025 x1.5 EXP/SP Bonus during 17.02.2025 - 21.02.2025 TI: x1.3 EXP/SP Bonus during 14.02.2025 - 21.02.2025 We got a lot of feedback asking to not give EXP bonuses on TI server, but we can't leave it without any. So the decision to increase it, but not to the level of Dion, was made. Happy Holidays! Sincerely, Classic Team

Dear players! Tomorrow, 06.01.2025 we will be installing Goddard part 2 Update on both Dion and Talking island servers! Server will go down at a standard maintenance time. Update will take up to 3 hours! IMPORTANT: You will need to update your Client in order to see update content! Sincerely, Classic Team

Dear L2Classic.club Adventurers, As another year unfolds in the epic world of Lineage 2, we want to extend our heartfelt congratulations to all of you - valiant warriors, skilled mages, and cunning rogues - for your unwavering dedication and incredible achievements. Your tireless efforts, triumphant victories, and unyielding spirit have brought life to our world and made this year unforgettable. Each castle siege, PvP duel, and boss raid stands as a testament to your courage and skill. You have proven time and time again that the heart of a true adventurer beats within you. As we step into the new year together, we wish you even greater accomplishments, thrilling battles, and moments of glory that will etch your names in the annals of our history. May your paths be filled with legendary loot, unbreakable alliances, and victories that resonate across Aden. Your dreams, whether of conquest or camaraderie, are what drive this incredible community forward. We, as your server team, are committed to making the year ahead even more extraordinary. From smoother gameplay to exciting events and engaging updates, we will do everything in our power to ensure your journey remains as captivating as ever. Thank you for being the heart and soul of L2Classic.club - your passion inspires us to continually strive for excellence. Here's to another year of adventures together! Happy New Year! Sincerely, Classic Team

I think you all missed the point of having a new client and all got so instantly consumed by hating something you didnt even understand that anything else stopped mattering to you. Let me see if i can find a way to explain without hurting anyones feelings why having new and more recent clients and files is good and why nothing of you you cried about is any relevant cuz we can pick and choose what to or not to use from it. 1 - Do you all like events? Do you all want to have new fun and different events? well, do you know there's only so much you can do with a small box of legos and then you get a new bigger box of legos and suddenly you can do so much more cooler stuff then you could with the box before only? The bigger box of legos is the new client. atm making new events for us is super limiting being by amount of animations we have at our disposel, amount of items, amount of icons, amount of NPCs, what always ends up on events having to be recycled not only on client side with icons and npcs but also on server side were we need to keep taking old items to change to new items, this is a type of freedom we get with a more recent client becuz it gives more tools to us. 2 - Personal machine performance, Due to being a newer protocols of the game in some cases keeping up with recent clients and files help increasing not only your personal machine performance while playing but also the servers performance it self. 3 - Content options. For me as this is most of what i do this is the most important part. For almost 3 years i have been trying to figure out a way we could some how with our current clients implement the elemental spirits feature cuz its something that is part of old L2 with elements etc and its a nice late game boost on stuff to grind and farm in game, and for almost 3 years i have come out empty on this part, guess what? a simple client change solves that issue and this is one example out of many things when it comes to this department. list could go on but i think i proved my point, also the fact you guys look at this and say oh but this is essence CLIENT is not classic CLIENT, here is a crazy thing that you might not know there is no such thing as classic clients, every single version of classic lineage was created using clients from other version like for example the biggening of classic in godess of destruction clients. its only different protocols or versions of this same clients. A client is nothing else then a bag of tools you get to use however you see fit, i know its a rare notion and not very common to have private servers that can take the client and do wtv they want with it, but thats how they were made to be worked with, the reason people get acostumed to put names to visual things is cuz in most of the cases and servers if you have h5 client, you gonna be playing h5, if you have antharas client you gonna be playing wtv version of classic they want to run till antharas. For us this isnt the case cuz we can manipulate it however we want, we could even get this new files and make a server running from classic 1.0 looking like classic 1.0 for you, just on our side we would have way much more options to make new stuff and create new stuff that we wouldnt have chance to do if we would use the client its was used when classic 1.0 was made. To sum it up. Clients are a BOX OF LEGOS, smaller older box you build a house maybe if you dont loose some pieces meanwhile, get a NEW BIGGER BETTER BOX OF LEGOS and you can still build that same house as with the small old box BUT, if you chose to, you can now build a bigger more complex house. Client/files - Box of legos. Server version - wtv we chose to put together with those legos for you to have in game. in our hands they are not directly related, similar way you had TI starting on a older version of god client and then it got updated like 3 or 4 times and when dion started it used this latest version already, was still the same old game style and world and map and classes and items, it was just running in a newer more complete client.

I didn't like it, it will be the worst update and maybe the last for me.

We always appreciate your hard work and thank you for maintaining our servers. Sometimes it's best to leave it as is. I'll have to go into more detail to find out, but I'm worried that the classic scent will disappear. Personally, I think server advertising and integration are the best. Please know that there are many users who play because they like the classic scent as is. I played on that client's server until recently, but I play on the European server to feel the classic flavor. I invested several years into making such an item. But I don't log in because it's not fun. This screenshot is proof. Preparing items on this server is as difficult as on the European server. If you need to promote European servers, If you provide promotional materials, we will continue to place advertisements on domestic game sites. Please don't abandon the classics.

Dion Adventurers! 🌋 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐄𝐚𝐫𝐭𝐡 𝐓𝐫𝐞𝐦𝐛𝐥𝐞𝐬... 🔥 𝐀𝐧𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐬 𝐫𝐢𝐬𝐞𝐬 𝐚𝐠𝐚𝐢𝐧! 🔥 The mighty Land Dragon is awakening from its slumber… ⏳ Spawn Window: Begins in 10 days ± 12 hours Starting from its last death at 2025-11-04 16:39:12 UTC+2 (Server Time) Sharpen your blades, rally your clans, and prepare to face Antharas again! 🐉💥 Sincerely, Classic Team

Greetings, Adventurers! Did you ever think Gatekeepers were just statues standing all day, teleporting travellers for a fee? They may look like that now, but in the past, they were elite members of the army. On the battlefield, Gatekeepers had a crucial role: to instantly teleport critically wounded soldiers to safety, where healers could tend to them. They had no offensive, defensive, or healing magic—only their Hide and Dash skills to avoid danger. Soldiers depended on them completely. In the most desperate situations, Gatekeepers could not afford to make mistakes. Now, if you have reached level 60, you have the chance to step into their shoes and join the Gatekeepers’ Training! How to Participate Find the Event NPC – A special Gatekeeper will appear in Giran every 4 hours: 00:00, 04:00, 08:00, 12:00, 16:00, 20:00 (Server Time) An announcement will be made before each spawn. Join the Training – Speak to the Event Gatekeeper NPC to register. You will have 15 minutes after the NPC spawns to register. The registration area is a peaceful zone. While waiting, you can: Stay in the lobby until teleport. Run to the gates, transform into a Gatekeeper, and set up your skill bar. Teleport to the Arena – 1 minute after registration closes, participants are teleported to the Training Arena. Upon teleport, you will automatically transform into a Gatekeeper and gain 4 event skills: Hide Backstab Dash Teleportation Objective Eliminate Opponents – Use Backstab to take out all other Gatekeepers in the Arena and other skills to avoid being Backstabbed. If you get backstabbed, you’re eliminated! Rescue the Citizen – Once the Arena is clear, find the Citizen NPC and use Teleportation on them to teleport them to safety. (There are 3 Citizens on the Arena, so each Training can have up to 3 winners) Time Limit – The Arena session lasts 20 minutes from the moment you are teleported in. Relogging inside the Arena will remove you from the event. As soon as Training time is off, everyone will be moved back to town. Rewards When you successfully rescue the Citizen, you will receive a Gatekeeper’s Chest, which contains: 10 Solidus OR 1 cosmetic item (available in the Event Gatekeeper Exchange Shop) Event Duration 📅 11 August 2025 – 12 September 2025 ⚠ Client update required to see Event NPCs and Items. Have a successful training! Sincerely, Classic Team

Dear players! ✨ Spice Up Your Farm – New Automatic Event: Make It or Break It! ✨ To bring some excitement to your day-to-day farming, we're happy to introduce our first automatically triggered event! This is just the beginning—many different random events will be added in the future. But for now, let’s welcome the first one: 💥 Make It or Break It! 💥 How to activate the event: Just hunt monsters in the same region (Goddard, Aden, etc.). Once enough monsters are defeated, NPC Noos will appear in the respective city for 60 minutes and make an announcement. Talk to Noos to Join the Fun! When Noos appears: Speak to him to receive a Skilled Enchanter Box. The box contains a Guardian Weapon and 35 Scroll: Enchant Guardian Weapon. Your goal? Enchant the Guardian Weapon and return it to Noos for a reward. 🧩 The better the enchant level, the better the reward! (You can check the rewards list directly from Noos.) ❗ Don’t worry if you fail! Failed enchantments simply reset the weapon to +0. The weapon itself is never destroyed. 📦 A Few Important Notes: You can only participate in the Event if your character has reached level 20 You can only receive a new Skilled Enchanter Box once every 2 hours, and only if you’ve returned your previous Guardian Weapon (enchanted or not) Unused Scrolls are not removed when you return the weapon, so feel free to save them for your next attempt! Client Update is required in order to see Event NPC and Items after 30.05.2025 Maintenance Enjoy, experiment, and may your enchants shine bright! Sincerely, Classic Team

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There are a lot of people who lure mobs in Varka and drop them on you. It's either TH or some summoners. Summoners of level 40- are especially annoying, since they cast buff that people of high level can't PK them. So it's impossible to do anything with them at this point. As making trains is one aspect of the game, it's really annoying and unfair. I propose at least make this invincible to PK buff disappear on high level zones.

Hello lovely community.As i see the online its not so big but still people enjoy play.For now is 1+2 box with premium acount.Since party room is always empty i suggest at least to increase the boxing clients at 1+4 or more so you can have 1 main dd +bd+sws+se at least for effincient farm after 70lvl+ if you dont have any friends to play with because of many reasons(work/time/ or you are just an alone rider.Sadly not all people have 2 or 3 laptops/ pc to do that.Thats my suggenstion.Thanks in advance.

Dear players! Ready to celebrate Valentine's day? Here is a part of what is waiting for you on celebration weekend: x2 EXP/SP Bonus during 14.02.2025 - 17.02.2025 Lovebird Cloak will be back for a limited period of time to Nostalgia's Items Vault More info to come! So stay tuned! Sincerely, Classic Team

Dear players! We want to congratulate you with Lunar New Year and send our best wishes to you and your families! To celebrate Lunar New Year, we have prepared for you some memorable gifts, which you can take from Emmy NPC in game! Happy Holidays! Sincerely, Classic Team

I think points 1 and 4 are just absolute lies. #2 has merit, but is extremely hard boss that requires lots of people. Overall that raid is awful. If you open entry to any time it never gets farmed again. If you reduce the exp its almost not worth the time investment. #3 everyone has asked for. #1 is a lie because you are obviously posting from a HighClass perspective and YOU LOST a reinforced castle 2 weeks ago............. Oren #4 is a lie because November was the most active month on TI oly in like 2 years because everyone could throw boxes and feed their own hero. There was still 8 hours of oly (4 per day), but people played because 10 chars made wave. The admins changed back to 20 (not 40 that is wrong information) and now no one plays again. This is a massive cry post with no real solution or evaluation of the game. You think exp is broken on Antharas, go farm varka / ketra. Do you even know how much exp comes from that area now with RBs? Test new areas someone people say HB is good. Anakim is still fairly strong AoE spot. Go read my other posts I dont shy on telling admins where they go wrong, but at least give reasonable feedback and evaluation of the game. The larger point of this post that newbies have a hard time entering the server is very true. Sadly that is L2 for you. Boss jewels and scaling effects of buffs. You have to be smart and in numbers to beat those with better gear. If you do that consistently you can get more powerful yourself and win. Also new patch just dropped that is meant to give Dion and TI more A grade viability. How can you bash the changes when you havent even fully tested the new patch which should allow newbies to get more powerful again???????? TLDR: More solutions, less cry

Calculation is here! It is not going to be a regular calculation, but a Holiday one! Streamers, that were with us during last week, will each get: 150 CoLs 10 Santa's Pouches And the streamers are: merenda CraftForVodka MIHICTP123 To claim CoLs, PM Kse here on forum with your ingame nickname! You do not need to send it to Live chat/Discord as well. In case you don't see your name in the list or have doubts in calculation numbers, pm me CoLs will start being delivered on 26.12.2024

gm dont play in our server,I guess they dont know how these lv4epics and anakim/lilith runes affect this game. they are huge boost and already changed the game.elements are worse.ofc our side will control the elements,dont know how could it affect others Before you adding anything new here,fix the spammers first,ty!

1.yes,we like events,but events not important,more active ppl much more important 2.maybe good for server,it doesnt mattter for us,L2 is not a complex client for pc now 3.you want to implement elements????really?do u know how could it affects the server? just like epics lv4,it will make randoms harder to catch up,we controlled 90% epics already,ofc,any new boost will benifit us much than these randoms be careful about anything making char stronger,it will only make the gap between the winners and rondoms,I think its the biggest reason ppl left here. its an old server with long history,the reason we still here is this server is stable,its an old server with long history,new ppl already hard to catch up. GM always think we are bored with the current content,actually we are bored about not enough active ppl here,these changes you think could attract new ppl just make them want to go away. ppl already proved these players playing here dont like this idea,and I explained why new ppl wont like this idea either.

Dear administration, you have players who love the classic interface and mechanics. You remain the only classic server in the free space. Please do not join the GOD swamp. We need new players and clans to revive pvp and the market. The latest Goddart updates look interesting! Perhaps it is necessary to focus on advertising or opening a new server with the subsequent merger of Dion.

Lets be honest this new ui looks like Android Phone game and yeah, nobody wants that.

our gm is working on adding stuff nobody is asking for,we want you to fix the shit you already gave us,not give us some new shit, we hate this UI,we hate this client,thats all. why you think we care about these functions?5%extra rate?personal siege?seriously? can u fix the spammers? open a new server with this client,dont put this shit on classic server

This isn't a classic....

Add soldier badges drop near goddard gates spot? its should be good area for pvp spot for players of droping it. Couse clans without castles will be without raids... How to take caslte against 30 ppls Korea with full epic.And soldeirs badges on those spots its only one way to get it for solo players without 6+ boxes for farm hard mobs in ketra unstead.... kookaburra, antelopa, buffalo, grendel, bandersnatch im about those mobs, fix it please and add strix quest 100% exp scroll 1 hour here add for it high lvl spot

Dear players! Elia is back once more and is needing your help! Find NPC Elia in Aden! She needs your help! To take a place in the Event, hunt monsters all over the map, gain experience and along with it - Glowing Ice Glowing Ice can be used to summon a Snowman! To defeat it, you will need Dragon's Breath potion, that can be purchased at Elia. As soon as you got both Glowing Ices and a stack of Dragon's Breath potions, get out of the peaceful zone, summon Snowmen and kill them all! Each defeated Snowman will drop for you Broken Ice, which you need to deliver to Elia. As a reward for each 30 Broken Ice, you will receive Santa's Pouch By opening it, you will get 1 of random rewards. The list of rewards can be found at Elia NPC. During the Event you can also obtain Christmas Cosmetic items! Talk to Elia and she will offer to exchange your Santa's Pouches for following items: Event duration: 16.12.2024 - 06.01.2025 NPC will stay till restart on January, 10 IMPORTANT! Client update is required to see new buff and items! And that's not it! Join our DISCORD channel and participate in daily Giveaways through all the event duration! Get a chance to win valuable gifts! Whats going to be up for the giveaways? Event Items (Santa's Pouches) 30 Days PAs Perma PA Color Titles CoLs Freya Suit Freya Cloak Freya Agathion Ice Queen Tiara And even that is not it! During the whole Event period, Enjoy +20% EXP/SP Bonus! Happy Holidays! Best regards, Classic Team

to make maximum balance, you can also increase the Fear cooldown time for all classes, as it was before with paralysis. The ability to remove silence and fear with talismans/ core 3 skill. And slightly reduce the chance of passing, this will balance the avenger, necromancer with others. they are still too strong at the olympiad and in pvp, but for (for sh, sorceress and MM no one really plays) For archers, add a trigger skill for the whole party + attack speed / physical attack for the whole group when the archer deals damage to the target, it would make sense to take them for rb and epics. With similar mechanics as the great fury for warcryer. even in a melee party for boost dps.

Calculation is here! merenda - 4 CoL CraftForVodka - 98 CoL GhostDenzoTV - 18 CoL Plus, 2 active streamers, CraftForVodka and GhostDenzoTV will get additional 100 CoL! IMPORTANT! If during the calculation we can not see your videos because they are hidden or any restrictions are applied, there will be no recalculation after calculation results are posted! You need to make sure your content is available for the check before! Streams, which were not announced in your topic as required are not being counted! AFK time on streams is being removed from overall streams time. And if a single stream has a significant AFK time in it, that stream is not being counted at all! Fishing considered AFK! To claim CoLs, PM Kse here on forum with your ingame nickname! You do not need to send it to Live chat/Discord as well. In case you don't see your name in the list or have doubts in calculation numbers, pm me CoLs will start being delivered on 27.10.2025

Hello. As I remember delay timer was added so you can't accidentally spawn 2 on top of each other and then wait till one of them disappear before you can target another one. Also so you can't just spam tones of them instantly ( decreasing load on NPC server a bit ). We will add exchange closer to end of the event, but you will lose a bit by using exchange option.

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Dear friends! Ice crystal shards were stolen from Freya's palace. Freya fears that the crystals could make this winter unbearably cold for all Elmoreden residents, or that the winter may never end until all the crystals are returned to her palace. So she sent her Servant for your help! Freya has also sent her Infinite Fighters which will destroy all the creatures in Elmoreden if you will not help. Let's not bring it to this, everyone is counting on you! Hunt monsters all over the map, gain experience and along with it Freya's Frozen Lamp. By opening them you can get either Ice Crystal Shards, which Freya's Servant can exchange for Freya's reward or Freya's invitation so you and your friends can go and battle Infinite Fighters! When you and your friends will have invitations (at least 1 per character), make a party (2-9 members) and come to Freya's Servant. She will send you to the arena, where you will be facing Infinite Fighters. Remember! As soon as you will be teleported to the arena, there is no way back except for your death! (there is no exp or items loss on death on the arena). Every killed Infinite Fighter will spawn 2 more, so prepare for the hard challenge! Every defeated Infinite Fighter will give 1 Infinite Fighter Armor Piece to a person, who dealt last hit on it. These Armor pieces can be exchanged for Military Outfit and are tradeable. And 30 Ice Crystal Shards can be exchanged for Freya's reward at Freya's Servant. After 10000 Infinite Fighters are killed, Ice Queen Freya will come to Aden square! Talk to her within 30 minutes of her appearance and receive Time limited 6 hours 100% EXP/SP boost scroll! Reward cooldown is 12 hours! So don't try to sneak and get it while you are not supposed to Do not forget to talk to Freya's Servant and get Freya's Blessing! Buff improves every hour and lasts 4 hours in total. Level 1 buff gives +3% EXP/SP Level 2 - +5% EXP/SPLevel 3 - +9% EXP/SPLevel 4 - +15% EXP/SP Buff cooldown is 12 hours! Event rewards were updated and now along with previous rewards you can get: For TI: 2x Daily Coins For Dion: 2x Daily Coins 2nd Class Book Chest 3rd Class Book Chest Event duration: Items drop - 10.03.2025 - 31.03.2025 NPCs will stay till 07.04.2025 In order to see Event items client update after maintenance is required Happy hunting! Classic Team

well its makes sense. but for now seems more pc's owners wins .and even 2-3 pcs . its hard to control all chars with it. easer would be single pc.

This topic will cover the changes coming to our servers in the next patch. Patch in general is ready to go but there is still some things we want to test and tweak, and for this reason we wont be going live with it right away, We will drop everything on test server, we will give you the chance to mess around while we will also be running more testing in some of the things, and this together with holyday season coming and people spending more time with family and some even have to travel etc we will be sending the patch live right after the holydays. Together with the work going on in TI and DION we have also been working on something extra on the background, more info can be found here https://l2classic.club/forum/topic/105481-behind-the-scene-reveal/ Castles Skills Zones Clans Items Other changes Castles With this new patch we are introducing a new features accessible by members of clans who own a castle, Castle Prison. The bad boys of the region have been apprehended over time and kept in a special shadow prison, players who are part of a clan that owns a castle will now be able to form a group to challenge this monsters. - There are 10 different bosses that can be found in this dungeon. - Every run players will be able to fight 3 of these monsters. - Bosses that spawn are random. - Players need to be part of a full group to be able to enter this dungeon. - Players need Prison Access Certificate on all chars to enter Prison. Certificates can be bought from Castle trader. - Bosses in this dungeon will drop A grade gear, Cloth Pieces, Gemstones A and Life Stones for DION. - For TI Bosses will drop the same drops as on DION but with inclusion of a small chance for S grade items and S grade Gemstones. - These Bosses also have a chance of droping 2 new items. Bracelet of Duty Fragment, and Bracelet of Duty of new level, this will be level 6 on DION and level 8 on TI. - Players can use Bracelet of Duty Fragment to upgrade their bracelet to the latest level on respective servers. (to 6 on DION and to 8 on TI). NOTE: THE SEALED BRACELET OF DUTY YOU CAN DROP FROM THIS BOSSES CAN BE TRADE/SOLD FOR AS LONG AS IT IS SEALED, AFTER IT GETS UNSEALED IT STAYS BOUND TO THAT CHARACTER. Skills There are some changes come to skill with the new patch and some new skills incoming for some classes also. (Some of them already exist on TI) Blade dancer/Spectral dancer Defense Motion (DION) Psychic Dance (DION) Arrest: Landing chance increased by 5% (DION & TI) Sword singer/Sword muse Battle Whisper (DION) Arrest: Landing chance increased by 5% (DION & TI) Daggers Bluff (DION) Paladin/Phoenix Knight Summon Imperial Phoenix (DION) Temple knight/Eva's Templar Smart cubic (DION) Arrest: Landing chance increased by 5% (DION & TI) Shilien elder/Shilien saint Stigma: will now reduce m def also. (DION) Bounty hunter/Fortune seeker Crushing strike (DION) Maphr Blessing (DION & TI) Maphr Punishment (DION & TI) Warsmith/Maestro Summon Abyssal Golem (DION & TI) Weapon Efficiency (DION) Armor Efficiency (DION) Superior Craft (DION & TI) Hawkeye/Sagittarius Fire Storm (DION & TI) Volcano shot (DION & TI) Fire Blast (DION & TI) Quick Shot (DION & TI) Quick Shot - Recovery HP (DION & TI) Disengage (DION) Silver ranger/Moonlight sentinel Water Storm (DION & TI) Tsunami Shot (DION & TI) Water Blast (DION & TI) Quick Shot (DION & TI) Quick Shot - Recovery MP (DION & TI) Disengage (DION) Phantom ranger/Ghost sentinel Wind Storm (DION & TI) Hurricane Shot (DION & TI) Wind Blast (DION & TI) Disengage (DION) Dark avenger/Hellknight Horror reuse increased to 12 seconds (DION & TI) Necromancer/Soultaker Fear reuse increased to 12 seconds (DION & TI) Death Spike power lowered to be at same power as main nukes from elemental mages. (DION & TI) Summon Cursed Man reuse and cast increased to be at same level with 3rd class pets from summoners (DION & TI) NOTE: COSTS, VALUES ETC STILL MIGHT UNDERGO SOME CHANGES BEFORE IT HITS LIVE SERVER DEPENDING ON TESTS. Zones KETRA/VARKA Some changes have been made to the monsters on the ketra and varka location in order to make it a better zone for a more comfortable and profitable farm. Champion mobs: - Champion monsters will now give double EXP and SP rewards - Champion monsters will no longer attack right away after spawn - Champion monsters will now have a small chance to drop EWA/EAA - Champion monsters will now have EWA/EAA on their spoil rewards list - Champion monsters will no longer spawn from the easier monsters in the locations - Champion monsters will now have increased chance to spawn. Soldier Badges: - Soldier Badges will now be possible to trade - Soldier Badges needed to exchange for Researchers Guild Box reduced from 500 to 300 - Soldier Badges needed to create Hero's Badge reduced from 50 to 40 Ketra/varka Heroes - Ketra and Varka heroes will now give double EXP and SP rewards Lair of antharas - level of some monsters has been increased together with its EXP/SP rewards. - Dion server only. Items Since our reputation with the Researcher's Guild keeps increasing due to your amazing job working with them, they will offer to you a new item for trade. Researcher's Earring. - Researcher's Earring will be available to whoever finished the quest and have access to the trading option for the Researcher's Box. - Researcher's Earring will have the cost of 500 Badges. - Researcher's Earring can be upgraded on NPC Fiero using a item you can get from drop from monsters in Ketra/Varka. - Researcher's Earring can be upgraded to lvl 10. - All A grade pieces have been added to spoil lists of mobs who already had it on drop list - Option to make Zaken earring lvl 2 added to Baggins NPC (DION) - Drastically increased drop chance for lower lvl skills spell books. - Magic tablets drop chances doubled. Clans (changes for DION only, TI already has it) - Clans can now increase their level to level 6 - Cost to level up clan from level 5 to level 6: 10kkSP on clan leader and 10000 Proof of Blood. - Level 6 clans will have 50 clan member slots. - Clans level 4 and above can learn one new skill Clan Death Deal Clan Death Deal (decreases EXP loss on death) 1 - Reduces exp loss upon death by 20%. cost 5000 CRP available for clan lvl 4 2 - Reduces exp loss upon death by 35%. cost 7500 CRP available for clan lvl 5 3 - Reduces exp loss upon death by 50%. cost 10000 CRP available for clan lvl 6 - Proof of blood was also added to some monsters in Ketra and Varka zones. Other Changes Crafting For some time we have been receiving reports about crafting being either hard, not profitable or in general not worth it comparing with how much easier it is, for example, to just wait item to drop from a boss. We hear you and this is something that we have been thinking about a lot as we always want crafting to be relevant as it is in our view a important feature of a MMO and specially on a MMO that has some classes where part of their kit revolves around crafting or easier access to obtain items for crafting. With this in mind and also wanting to keep both crafting and this classes who are related to crafting relevant and appealing, one of the approaches we took in next patch is to make spoiling and crafting not only more appealing, but also easier and more profitable. In next patch, materials and recipes will in general be easier to obtain, being it by increased chances and by lowering the amount of quest items required to obtain a recipe box from quest Fiero's Assignment, this number will be heavily reduced allowing players to trade more often and there for obtaining more recipes from this quest. In addition to this, we are also increasing SPOIL chances for some of the most wanted materials (in higher level zones) that are sometimes hard to come by if players want to go in a crafting spree, as well as gemstones. Also, we are introducing a new level of crafting and new improved recipes that high level skilled maestros (level 80) will be able to add to their book. To obtain these new recipes players will have to trade with Researcher Fiero and have a maestro adding the recipe to their crafting book if they are capable of doing it. These recipes will be in general same as old recipes with one major difference, on crafting, players will have the usual chance to fail or succeed the craft, and on success players will have the possibility of receiving double the items crafted. This is a system we plan to work further if well received by the player base, and extend it somehow in the lines of player having chance to craft special items with special stats, or items with special enchant levels and so on. For the moment this will be for A grade armors and jewels only.

mate did even Over hit for + 5kk exp, good job

Full information. Lets take Varka Silenos Medium as standard: Varka Silenos Medium Difficulty: (HP+P.Attack+M.Attack+P.Def+M.Def) = 1+1+1+1+1 = 5 ( ~400 spawns in 1h ) HP 58,339 x1 P.Attack x1 M.Attack x1 P.Def x1 M.Def x1 spawn x10 ( 60sec - 120sec ) MJ robe: 1/125 need x17 Varka Silenos Warrior Difficulty: 0.82+1.68+0.64+1.63+0.81 = 5.58/0.05 = 111.6 - 100 = 11.6% difference ( ~720 spawns per 1h, 80% more spawns ). HP 48,007 x0.82 P.Attack x1.68 M.Attack x0.64 P.Def x1.63 M.Def x0.81 spawn x18 ( 60sec - 120sec ) MJ Plate 1/175 need x17 Ketra's Commander Difficulty: 0.83+1.57+0.51+1.96+0.97+((0.5+1.3+0.5+0.62+0.89)*2) = 5.84+((3.81)*2) = 5.84+7.62 = 13.46/0.05 = 269,2 - 100 = 169,2% difference ( ~450 spawns per 1h, 12.5% more spawns ) HP 48,616 x0.83 P.Attack x1.57 M.Attack x0.51 P.Def x1.96 M.Def x0.97 2 Guards: HP 29,170 x0.5 / P.Attack x1.3 / M.Attack x0.5 / P.Def x0.62 / M.Def x0.89 spawn x15 ( 40sec - 200 sec ) Som: 4% - Mid A need x32 Ketra Orc Battalion Commander Difficulty: 0.67+1.81+0.52+2.19+0.99 = 6.18/0.05 = 123.6 - 100 = 23.6% difference ( ~180 spawns in 1h, 55% less spawns ) HP 39,359 x0.67 P.Attack x1.81 M.Attack x0.52 P.Def x2.19 M.Def x0.99 spawn x6 ( 40sec - 200 sec ) Tallum Blade: 5% - Low A need x25

Dear players! Congratulations on your Dion server's 2nd anniversary! This milestone celebrates your dedication, camaraderie, and countless shared adventures over the past two years. Together, you've created not just a thriving game world but a vibrant community filled with unforgettable memories and enduring alliances. We extend our heartfelt gratitude to every player for shaping this incredible journey. Your passion and support have been vital to the server's success. Exciting updates, events, and opportunities are just around the corner, promising even more thrilling adventures. Thank you for being part of this story - here’s to many more milestones ahead! Find NPC Emmy in every city starting at midnight (UTC+2 time), and get your gifts! She will stay giving presents till 17.01.2025 maintenance That goes for both Dion and TI servers! Plus, don't miss a Discord Giveaway! Sincerely, Classic Team

So do you want to keep updating? Please speak clearly and firmly. Are you going to apply that new client? Please speak clearly.

For TI right now you buy Lvl 7 with ( Lvl 6 + Coins ) : Lvl 8 you will get for Bracelet Lvl 7 + x1 Bracelet of Duty Fragment ( can be traded ) + Coins. Or drop from Boss as Sealed ( can be traded before Unsealed ).

I know @San0 you are working on new patch and other balance, but I want to highlight some balance issues and changes made in quick order that has drastically shifted balance without you intending to. 1) A while back you changed summoners to have longer CD on re-summoning pet. This was meant so that summoners had to work more on their intended class design to protect their pet or else be left vulnerable. This change was not implemented to DA, Paladin, Warsmith, and worst of all Necro. DA, Paladin, and Warsmith while having summons are not technically summoner classes. There is no transfer pain, little to no buffs for their pet, and probably most impactful long casting time for summoning. Necro on the other hand has 2 of the 3 just mentioned and the only 1 missing has little effect on them. Their pet casts extremely quick, they have transfer pain, and while they dont have pet buffs their pet isn't meant to be the sole source of dmg. Now don't be misunderstood that their pet doesn't do decent damage, it does good damage, and because of the class balance being they can re-summon almost instantly it means they can play as a better summoner and just continuously send their pet in like old summoners used to. This is also not the only purpose of this class they have the most CC's, hard hitting nukes, and as stated one of the tankier classes because of transfer pain. Having necro work like other summoners to keep their pet alive or become a squishy nuker should be the intended game design. Please look at adding CD to necro cursed man. 2) Cubic change. I don't play Dion and I think most of TI players were confused because cubic did not feel THAT strong on TI. So a change was made to TI as well where it essentially only hurt people and probably hurt more classes than it helped. The problem of Kitty and SM cubic being able to trigger from out of LoS and CC you was understandably bad because you can never reach a summoner, then you get CC'd and just die/lose. However, this has ALWAYS been the history of cubics and I think an intended design choice of cubics. They are supposed to be NPC like "pets" for classes, but now they are even more reliant on the "master". Kitty and SM still have controllable pets that the summoner can play around so the cubic just added to their strength, but they are still problems because they can nearly kite indefinitely. Classes that have major downfalls to this change are SK and TK which have more dps and support cubics, but now are neutered from being helpful NPCs because they need LoS and in many cases that will never happen. Example: TK smart / root cubic is supposed to be the helpful NPC/pet that lets a TK lock down a target and catch them, but now a TK can be perma-kited and just lose forever. This also extends outside of oly as well, in open world you would want your cubics to support you and your party regardless of LoS. If your low health ally was around the corner you cubic would heal, now your cubic will lose the cast and essentially sit idle for 1 whole cycle. IMO this change was very targeted at Dion not having as much mental resist from boss jewels and essentially changes the LONG history of cubics in L2. I would challenge the GM's to very much evaluate the changes made and ask yourself if this was a beneficial change on the whole or based off people's complaints and potentially roll this change back. 3) The long standing issue of CC in oly, balancing, and the obvious villians: Necro, DA. So I think this is currently a problem of TI more so than Dion, but I imagine will become a problem quickly on Dion with intended design changes coming (again don't play on Dion, but can see progress of server). Every class in L2 has a CC effect so that is 1 way to look at the balance, but sadly not all CC are created equal and this has always been the case. The reason I think this effects TI more than Dion is A grade armor and to a degree S grade armor. a) +6 and +8 set bonuses are almost as strong as set bonuses alone so you pretty much run whatever +6 or +8 set you have. b) resist effects are the only other reason you run a set. It has nothing to do raw stats. So with TI having lots of +8 A grade and A grade having the highest and most vast resist pool in the game it means that many CC's have been degraded further than old design standards. Sleep/Hold resist at 70% and stun resist at 50% is VERY high resist profile and for classes where they only have 1 CC in those profile it almost completely negates their CC style (SE, EE, PP, BD, SWS, BP). Stuns are still strong and many classes have high level stuns now, but not a truly reliable CC because of MJ and MA. I would say the stun resist chance is actually healthy, 50% resist profile means it can happen while not being guaranteed. Now to the villians. Necro, DA, and even WC all have MENTAL based CC. This CC type is not gear resisted (when all players have equal boss jewels) and for Necro and DA they also have multiple forms of CC. So while other classes got their CC nerfed because of armor, these classes stayed the same and recently got major buffs with high level versions of these skills. For a while necro fear was unreliable because it was low level, DA was always strong. But now that fear has a base land rate of 70% (horror 90%) and largely unaffected by anything because the mental based jewels are not terribly hard to get these skills are a major problem again. My suggestion, increase the mental DEFENSE of core/zaken/orfen/antharas to make it so that those jewels are net defensive based not equal attack/defense. Besides WC, necro and DA have other CC styles which means while this being a nerf to those classes, those classes are still strong and have other forms of CC to maintain viability. 4) This is an obscure and not very well talked about balance issue, but I think its time to talk about openly. The state of TI is there is almost no B grade full drops, top A drops from a variety of locations, and improved enchants have been piling up on this server for quite a while through daily enchant boxes and DKs. This is resulted in +16 top A. This is not a bad thing, and arguably a great thing to allow people to progress their characters. Seeing the first +17 Daimon crystal is amazing and terrifying at the same time, as it should be (RIP +21 Sirra). However, this becomes a MAJOR problem when it comes to oly where it is raw stats vs raw stats. Weapons on this server scale MUCH faster than armor and worse jewels. Jewels you are limited because you have to run 4 boss jewels that have set mdef and cannot be improved so you only have 1 piece (neck). Now, way back in the day I think GMs did a good thing and added 82 book to counter this a bit and balance mages a bit; however, this was ~4 years ago now and top A mage weps have well surpassed this balance again. Armor is also a problem because the enchant success of armor is lower than weps and the pdef/HP gain is minimal. So again weapons out scale all defensive capabilities. This is probably best show cased by current state of Titan in oly. This class can sit and DEVOUR a tank through UD in +8 top A armor while spamming heals, necros and most mages casting damage is insane, and gladiators have absolutely wild burst damage (as they should but overtuned a bit). I think this is the hardest tuning to achieve as it is very number specific and you dont have a large gaming studio to run numbers on large sample sizes, but this is obviously a problem. 1 shots should not be a thing on top defended characters as well as a gladi/tyrant should be able to burst a mage down in short order through healing. I'm not sure the best balancing recommendation for this, but it is a problem worth talking about. I know the design team is busy and I hope the community gives feedback as well, but having the design team acknowledge or lightly comment on the topics discussed here would be helpful to know what has/hasnt been talked about already. I don't think any of these topics or ideas are extremely unique, but I also dont think any of them are extremely complicated either so that they have never been implemented means it was either not talked about / or rejected. Either way I would like to discuss the pros/cons of that with GMs and community.

5) Would be add way to up talisman 6 lvl also for players, some quest or farm ketra/ varka talisman 4 slots....

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