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Where is the ending when after 30 sec TKD archers rekt u? And PRed from 2 CHN pt 30 sec later? All the fun of the moment is missed on this video.

Lol. Not familiar with Hero bers+relog in hide for hide CD tactic? Free farm 1 pvp each several min.

Your point of view is dissappointing all these low lvl clans as lostsouls, genocide etc.

same story like with CHN didnt try epics 1y ago. ws and wk members even farmed abg together sometimes (back in the days). i remember dramas manifest cp vs chn in abg couple of times (which were solved by bizz tho)

Too much fuss. Reminds me the same fuss 3.5 weeks ago when WS took only few heroes. I told it before and will repeat it now. Take toi from WS first. Without that even baium farm will be just episodic.

It's pretty complicated. For example elfy wanna kill dh on siedge - they go that caste where dh currently is(it could be anyone's castle), the rest could go kill WS in order them to not have a castle (it's in theirs interests too for oly and pvp). DT can go kill perks on NF's castle in order to have free hands of NF - to let them go somewhere pvp with enemies (even if they go not to our castles - it will be helpfull). Complaining that evil NF can coop with evil DT for smth preventing the server to be a swamp again is pretty ridiculous. Especially with 8 cps in eur prime (soon 9).

i don't recommend sps without full support on your back and top equip (and castle preferably for circlet), even with that for every pvp will be needed to use ud\guard talics cause every bastard is rushing\chain pull you. Yes it has good burst damage but with 40% reflect sps will kill himself faster then some fat enemy dies if no CP regen from OL. It is a good controller tho - u frost+dagger all enemies on 900 distance, cancel and freeze shakle all bards and tanks who come to 600. ES is the most popular class on oly, that's it.

I think you underestimate ws ability to recruit. There is ~4 cp\clans in eur prime to recruit. Also they are already 7 CP in eur prime(summoners fatality rip bizz jackals ninja ww) +lfury ppl can log early (8)+ manifest cp will be ready in ~3 weeks (9). So far WS contrlolled toi in eur prime. Even if ppl from nf and dt gather their balls and take toi in eur prime - that will just means that WS will take more pts(60+) and kick you out of toi in eur prime. War in daily and coop for a big goals (like baium or siedges for example) is for not casual server like this. We've seen that already in the past when ES WS CHN were war to each other but pretty quickly stopped to kill each other and started to exp together. How ppl see that I wonder? DT and NF will kill each other while WS safely making baium quest and tablets?

I thought our wl failed 1 time. twice actually No OL = gg =\ good pvp tho

necro is the most universal. top tier on oly (with proper tali use), good on 1v1, for mage pt setup also need 2 necros, solo can cdl, fat af. desto is strong when it has tablets skills. I think in general your approach could be incorrect for the end game. End game is played by CPs (epics, toi, siedges). To play in cp - you need to play\reroll to class your cp need.

i feel bad for bb now, but what a hell, they have castle now gz

They don't have sirena, 2 necros>1 necro, 3-4lvl toi tali vs baium talis,demons are brighter, epics will allow to debuff better and take less debuffs,1-2 lvl difference, need good cp management on papers. Also they will need to use castle scrolls,beer buffs, proper tali use, proper pvp tactics. I can log and play sirena bd if elfy cp want to try 9v9 vs rip @elfyyy Look how cp regen should work vs vop\sirena\reneval

Just have a feeling(not the 1st time already) that in the majority of cases that would save your mages. BP gameplay so good. Still have a feeling that this OL's behavior to keep pt without cp will not work vs serious cp like rip's (sirena-vop-reneval-baium talis). Last time we pvped vs rip and had no live ol (no cp regen) - sps\sph was 1 hit from necro\sph (5k+ crits).

Cool. Show your OL cp regen button already

Anyway, it still keeps the question. 1 thing is some prolonged case as farm where its easy to catch a guy who can afk from pc for some time. Different case when 3-4 guys log 1pt each +2-3 pt of live ppl and all show is finished in 1 min. They are still on cyclic macro (hit-res-btm-regen-dance). If admin will move these chars as in the case with DA ikcen - they will still not react at least for some time(like live ppl). Also - when CHN were doing the same on QA but used a bot - they were checked it and banned them (didnt delete 3 QA rings or banned mains tho).

but admin was there? who recorded that video for imtr ban? i remember that modoy recorded the 1st, i thought admins did the 2nd

ye ye, thats what i'm asking about. in king case we had a direct check from admin, but in no admin is available or the case is pretty short in time (6-8 pt farm epic in 1min)- could be a video like this counted as a proof or not. the char on this video was ressing several times for some time = was not controlled. Where is this border when we can call the char as "without control"?

It's raising a question about the border "what can be counted as a bot and what cannot". For example in many cases when CHN use cyclic macro and dont pay any attention for some time what their boxes do. That's when we can see these infinite ressurection skils for example. Obviously in this moment if admin teleport\check this char - it will not responce, it will do the same actions as programmed in macro. Using cyclic macro without control = ban. If such a video can't be a proof, that means that only direct admin check can be a proof?

Little remark. DT had 50-60 ppl with boxes on the last siedge. 1 siedge before 80-90. I think many ppl forget that iFat cp dissolved, 3 DH cps are with ITommy now, Daraja cp dissolved (only a couple ppl left). SM clan itself is 3 cp since iFat and NF ppl left (~5 month already). @Pendragon "you didnt act to keep server afloat then, so dont come back to me with that weak shit now." Here you are incorrect. At the time end of summer till November we could take in ally ~ 8-9 CP more (who offered). We reject them only cause we didnt want to kill server, we have nothing against of them (not cause they were weak or smth). \ I'm pretty tired to quote Balu's bullshit, he still dont understand simple words I'm saying. I never told "everything achieved by us". I told "many things". "Many" is not equal "everything". I didnt say" WS have no valor" . I said that the methods are "questionable" and you took a lot of "questionable" ppl in ally. Nobody demonizing your whole ally. That's doesn't deny some talents of WS management. Doesn't make them outstanding leaders (ppl with big l2 exp understand that) but still, for example HR work of pendragon is very good. Overall the politics of constant recruitment is also an idea which deserves some respect. Yes, WS overused this idea sometimes, but it doesn't make the idea itself so bad. I don't deny the fact that WS have some things to be proud for. And still let's be honest, the majority of positive things for WS are based on other's ally failure, not the actions of WS ally itself. It's similar story with what happened after DL disbanded.

Is it some kind of disease? Being in perks completely destroying both logic and memory? 1) Double Bullshit. You sucked balls all November till December (nobody lead DT in December except of 2 days of ErKy). You won toi for 2 days only in Nov if be precise. It was like here: http://l2classic.club/forum/topic/17503-blue-team-vop-is-the-new-trend/ Here is proof that in Dec JF already were in WS. Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) Yes, we don't have to like eachother as long as we can kick Drama Team's ass together. Forum behaviour from your friends is more than pathetic. Edited December 3, 2017 by Myrtan And I didnt talk only about JF. I was replying to your "WS started 2.0 with less People that any other ally". Who care with what did u start if u tried to zerg toi with no matter who. 2) If you talked about only Baium you needed to specify. But u wrong even here. You tried to same zerg NA prime as you did in eur prime, made 4 cp ( itommy lfury cavaero archers), but new archers were banned and this plan failed. You kicked ppl who are not needed for you. You still could have 6-7 cp in eur prime (lfury ppl can log earlier), could stay late to farm baium, and had enough ppl for it. It was 0 risk for anything (Baium) to kick ITommy from ally. "a guy that is afraid to loose doesnt kick full NA prime almost twice" *facepalm* 3) "we where zerg, and that was reason to win, whats reason now?" -For especially slow green creatures - I can repeat (if u can't read or memory so weak or can't get it for yourself). The reason that you can win your enemies is free 6 month toi farm cause simply were no leader who wanted to gather ppl and kick WS out of there. And what do you mean by "win"? We are fine on siedges, oly, even on mass pvp when we have good online. If you mean only Baium again - wow, it such an achievement after 6 month of free toi and no competition for EUR prime. 4) "You call us liars no balls and what so ever" - No, I didn't. I told "absorb liers\no balls to ally" . Cause it's true. You pushed manifest cp - they qq for not be able to farm and joined perks. No balls. You took your worst enemies in ally JF just because u needed zerg for toi. And they joined cause "we need toi,tablets,baium". No balls. You took lina cp who had an agreement and help from DT ally. Liers. Same crap with WW cp. Sure that doesn't mean that you dont have normal ppl in ally. "you are the ones that create a zerg in NA with every single CP active in NA prime - 3cp that where with us. " Bullshit again. DH clan were barely alive and they rarely went toi except of elfy cp. That was the reason DH brought tfd to ally who could help elfy in toi and be usefull on baium as well. Maybe ask elfy how many times they fought vs 2\3 perk cp? I was playing wl sometimes in these pvps. "Soon after messed up with 1 clan why? Probably NA prime was to boring. " - clueless again, if u have no idea - maybe its better to keep your guesses? 5) You can't explain anything cause obviously you don't know what are you talking about. You are still living in your imaginary world where you think your "WS leadership" achieved something cause you are just awsome players or you have so brilliant leaders. But in reality - your ally were given toi for free. In reality - DL dissolved by itself. In reality - you failed to dominate oly (" Don't even dream about that"(C)Reaver). In reality - your siedge results for the last 9 month is far from what it should be with qty\power. Even Baium farm - you could take your lessons from DT first attempt - but you didn't, and you failed 2nd time as well. Even last baium if NF would jump when baium 20% less - they would take it from you. And still you proud how awsome are you cause you finally learned how to make Baium with few ppl? What an achievement I'm done talking with you, gl with living in your dreams.

Stop acting like it's not u!

1) And? Does it affect the fact that your ally tried to grab enough ppl to zerg toi? Hello JF case? That says a lot about you, you are right. 2) Bullshit. You cant lose what's not yours. NA prime wasnt yours so you could not lose it. 3) Yes, and what is the point to repeat my words? You want to confirm that it could be called as "domination?" You dissapointing your ally leader. 4) Lol, learn to do what? Be 2-faced? Or follow the plan "take w\e in order to take what i want"? Or absorb liers\no balls to ally? So far we've seen nothing respectfull to "watch and learn". Probably you've seen 1st leader in your l2 exp, but ppl who started to play l2 in 2005-2006, played on ru free and offi servers can't take your words seriously. You can belive w\e you want, some ppl believe in Scientology, gl with that.

1) WS holding toi eur prime since December. Last 6 month WS has enough power to kill any other ally in 90% of cases. WS farmed ~80% of Baiums so far. So ye, it's domination. 2) Usual bullshit from a guy who is afraid to lose his precious (even if it's no any threat to lose it). Not mention that it's clueless\sick mind fantasies. Sure war with SM will help a lot. But to WS, and there is no idiots who can belive in your nonsense. Lets assume NF will war SM. Who they will gank? Eur pts who are not playing? That should skyrocket NF online? Or remove NF\DT toi in NA prime and give it to iTommy? Elfy\Tfd would be so happy to hear this genious idea. Or increase the chances for WS to take more castles/heroes? Such a value for NF! Omg it's so cute that you trying to kill any possible future opposition. Sadly nobody buying this cheap crap. 3) You are not aggro me. You are just entertaining this community.

Look at them, 6 month ahead of the others and still so afraid to lose your fragile domination. Don't worry, your HR is good and it's always a lot of dishonest and weak ppl to take in WS.

Last baium we had 5-6-7(before to jump in) pts and didn't have a problem to kill perks, I didnt expect 5 days ago that 7 pts will turn to 3 boxed pts today. Some ppl were lack of quests but honestly 3 ppl could not change anything in this situation.