FryderykChopin

San0 be like pls no banneroni

100% agree. Patch 2.0 should be delayed until 2018-9 at least. Give me one (!) good reason why should devs release the patch 2.0 at all. Pro tip: there is none.

You won 27th August, where's the thanking post? Let's get this rolling

You're overpaying. I don't think you'll be able to resell them over 8kk. But it's a gamble. There aren't many MandiSei nudes on the market right now so you might try your lack. Just don't play it too risky, if everyone decides to buy her nudes at the same time, D grade market may crash.

Guys let's like ^this^ kkthx's post to another day won. And then he'll thank us again. And then we'll like his thanking post again. It's retarded but let's do this. @Kure @Rizos @Yomana @Ryok @liushahe00 @RoolBack @V4siukas @Poseidon @vinter @FryderykChopin @ProGressive @Sensei @Demosek @BANhammer @88262500 @Koll @Kse @San0

Which account are you using to login? The old one from regular server, or have you created a new one? Because I've had similar issue when trying to login with new account - they don't work on beta, you need to use the old account.

I don't think you have a right to use term 'ridiculous' to describe others if you're naive enough to seriously imply that those +10 staffs are a natural occurence. Also obligatory typical czech/slovak player, complaining about other czech/slovak player

Literally too lazy to even consider that, sorry Alright maybe ton is an exaggeration but ~ +10 weapons are quite common, enough to make it a major issue in 2.0 PvP.

He's right, you know? It has psychological effect. When people see the ugly login screen, they often rush to login asap so they can avoid it. When they rush it, they often missclick and have to re-enter their credentials. When they fail to login once or twice they get upset. Then when they finally log in, they see some newbies in shout looking for D weapons. But because they're upset, they set higher price than they'd normally ask for. Newbies get upset that they can't afford the weapon and leave the server, thus no D weapons get sold. D weapons market crashes because login screen is ugly.

I was against them but when you watch the frag movies from GK it's like 90% nukers and they have usually like ~ +5 mage weapons. Here tons of people have customly created +12 staffs AND they're getting the pony buff so I think CP potions won't matter since everyone's getting 1tapped anyway

It's a rating men (especially neet's) give to women. The higher rating, the more attractive the woman is.

We don't know exact numbers but I'd say beside sieges it's always between 1 and 2k. As Setzer mentioned, we're (hopefully) getting 2.0 patch soon which should bring a lot of people, too.

That's a shame, my sides were literally hurting as I was writing it y'all weird

It's ok, Van Gogh's art wasn't appreciated either until he kysed himself

You're not making any retarded posts so it's hard to roast you But to feel less lonely I've added you to club's special unit

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It's really 'just' expanding inventory since nobody was buying it for any other occasion. Anyway never played competitively on H5 so I can't disprove the need of everyone the need of having 20+ talismans (?) and more than 3 sets (?) to really make it a necessity. But I simply don't remember proofs having enough price to make botting them more valuable bussiness than setting a simple bot in branded. I'd say that in most occasions, these clans set up their own bots to make enough for themselves, but generally speaking I've always found pocfs to be quite rare in the market because most people just had no use for that. In the end the fishing remained being used mostly by enthusiasts.

I mean I've played on the offic... I don't have a subscription anymore but I can assure you that you're underestimating the exp you can get from the fishing, especially if you leave it overnight. The thing with proofs was that they've never had enough value to make it worth for serious botters. I mean think of it, with the exception to inventory expanding (which again was a thing which held serious value for fairly small ammount of people), you could solve everything else by creating another account which was free and effortless on private servers. I feel like the only botters who were fishing were those who couldn't set up a real bot. In reality I felt like most fellow fishers were people who just enjoyed the thing. ...Meanwhile literally everyone will need the +STATS and XP boost scrolls.

Well sorry for clickbait but my point still holds - I mean, you read the whole thing and realize it's complete nonsense, but then you figure out the new fishing is exactly it and suddenly it's okay because it's 'official'? I just don't really think so But that's the thing, this doesn't benefit them in any way, it really just screws up the gameplay with absolutely no reward. I honestly can't imagine a person who would join this server just so he could bot.

You guys do realize it's a joke suggestion, right? It's supposed to show how stupid the upcoming bot fishing is.

ye that's exactly how it is, and it's exactly why the bot fishing is bullcrap.

Rewards were far worse and still people were fishing, how do you explain that? Perhaps because it's a fun feature that people aren't forced to, but they do it because they enjoy it as part of the game? Also it's better to have a feature that few people enjoy and doesn't harm anybody, than a completely cancerous bot which doesn't belong to the game.

Exactly. They've already removed some stupid things before like enchant scrolls in shop, why can't they remove this, I dare to say much more stupid feature? I don't like this argument. Many people who join Classic do so because they miss the old times. There are zero C1-C5 lowrate servers with decent population. But things like this just destroy the nostalgia feeling. That's the good thing with the fishing spots. If devs managed to implement the old fishing alongside with the fishing areas, it would be quite easy to catch the potential botters. Or add the bot checkers, any solution is better than making botting allowed: Honestly I just don't see a reason why not just implement the old fishing and just mix the rewards a bit. Remove the XP scrolls and +STAT scrolls, keep just the basic lv 1 buff scrolls, warehouse/crafting/trading inventory expanding. Done, because these rewards will be completely uninteresting to non-newbie players, the prices for fishes will be basically zero and thus the botting problem will be non-existent. Of course there'll always be people who will complain about it just for the sake of complaining (...), but objectively there would be no drawbacks to it.

For those who missed it - yes, this topic is a complaint about the bot fishing in patch 2.0. You get the fishes out of it which are tradeable, these buff scrolls you're talking about are reward for the fishes. You probably never used the feature if you're serious about the 1%

I know what you're all thinking right now but hear me out - not everyone has a time to play 24/7. A lot of people have some real-life responsibilites too. To some extent I believe you could say the game is not fair towards those people who don't spend as much time in it. I believe botting would really help to balance things out on the server. To make it as fair as possible, there would be only one, official way to bot which would be the same for everyone. Here's how it would work: You could only bot in specific areas. In these areas, mobs would give lower XP/SP rewards so playing live would still be advantageous. During botting you'd be recieving special items to buy XP scrolls to catch up once you stop botting and go live. These items will be tradeable, so people who need adena will be able to just sell them to not create a big gap between level and equip to those who want to only bot. Some of these bot areas will be peace zones so you can't get killed by random PKs. Mobs in those areas will have 0 p.atk/0 m.atk so you can't accidentaly die during botting, to make it as friendly as possible. There will be no limitations on the botting, it will only stop on server restarts. What do you guys think? /Guess we can all agree that sounds completely retarded. But jokes on us, this is exactly what's coming our way with the new bot fishing in upcoming patch - https://l2wiki.com/classic/Fishing