Hello, Now i dont understand this part Honestly. So archers are not in fifth group, because they are leveling slower. Fighters are not in fifth group, because they are worse in pvp than archers and mages. And mages are other tier, because they are easier to level up. THIS starts. Any fighter can level up faster than mage nowadays with SE+prp. Because he can pull solo, dont need tank. It is easy farm. When we talk about big groups, Warlord is like needed card. U can drop tank for it. Even mage party uses it. Fighters weak at pvp? Lol look at all tyrant, gladis. 1v1 is unkillable class. Stun(free kill) Thats why server has a lot of tyrants. When we talk about mass pvp, yep they are weaker than mages, BUT if u fight in place with corners, i dont think thats problem. So mage vs fighters in classic is like. 2-2 or 1-2. Archer Ok mass pvp is same like mages. Necro> ALL but i think PR is not weak also with that CDL thing. + HE has dash for zoning. Solo pvp they might be even stronger because of stun, sps sorc has no debuffs. Leveling. Small groups leveling is easier than mages, SE+cdl mage is still worse than Archer+prp. When we talk about SPS and sorc... just forget. Group leveling. Yep thats where archers sucks, they have to kill kariks one by one. while mages can aoe, but still u need a WL for that. Suggestion 1) Make DD all one tier. 2) Delete tiers