DrunkAngel

I dont know how to seriously reply to this lets say, Rizo didnt have access to your char account, especially if you werent playing and clan had no access to clan leader's char let's forget that there is no need of clan leader to accept someone to clan i have more effective idea - they made you clan leader just for this screen! like they made this Angerfist's scam letter who will doubt, can say anything

Just a brief reminder of that effective case (so effective that san0 even closed it :D ) Angerfist sent epics and baium tali by mistake to wrong char. In order to get items back, Rizo and Angerfist built fake scam case and lied to admins that Angerfist scammed Rizo. Admins "somehow" believed this lie and returned items. Guess what happened? ^_^ After month from this "scam", Rizo's kind and generous heart couldnt stand and not only forgave this EPIC scam (five lvl3 epics + baium tali) and accepted Angerfist and Masha back, but even made them both heroes :D So I upgrade Rizo from "Rizo The Racist" (because reason of scam as angerfist "explained", was "Rizo flaming latinos" :D ) to "Rizo The Merciful!" ^_^ p.s. I wonder, if Rizo trusts Angerfist as before and borrowed him epics for Oly, or Angerfist made hero without them :D

why you stress so much? i used it as ordinary name because you indeed were searching for char R and when found it was mine, asked me to return items, as i first mentioned in poll topic. where exactly there is a lie? i also mentioned Balu name but he doesnt seem so nervous. i asked you politely to not mess me with other "guys" whom you can flame with or without reason. and dont try to show yourself more important than you are, unless you have smth that burns your tail Masha seems on great mood

I'm of course honored to be perceived as Biz but i must disappoint you, this is my forum account and nobody else ever used or will use it. but i understand that after this much time you cant still get out of his shadow. i also wasn't expecting any rational replies. for you two, topic is about the fact, that as soon as you stop being "big player"-s puppets, there will be no rules supporting you and there will be all newly baked/changed/modified rules supporting current "daddy" against you. for others, topic is about how defenseless they are, and no matter how senseless and absurd case can be, nobody cares about them. Old friendship above everything I also won't be surprised if anytime soon Rizo will mercifully "forgive" and Angerfist and Masha will play in his cp again

Post seems long but its quite entertaining everybody were interested how it "ended", so here you are) shortly about the case Angerfist sent mail by mistake to my char R. till i was waiting for their response, Rizo and Angerfist built fake scam case (not without help of other "mastermind", but that doesn't matter for this post) Even tho fake scam case was very weak, its nothing new that of course admins decided in favor of "big players". i'm not surprised, and neither are you, because those "big players" keep server alive. Now shortly about "scam" itself: After finding that items were missing, Rizo asked Angerfist about them and Angerfist said he sent items to Rizo. then Rizo addressed admins to find them and he got info that it was on char R. after searching for the owner of this char, he asked Axzp and he remembered it might be mine. after my refusal to return items to war, they asked admins for reversing items, but admins refused to return mistakenly lost items. so Rizo decided to make a fake case pretending that Angerfist scammed. the only evidence they provided to admins was ingame mail written by Angerfist, where he says that he is leaving cp and his cp items are gone (mail was written after admins refused to return items lost by mistake) there was no other proof at all If it's somehow not clear, that Angerfist made mistake (typed "R" in address line in mail, name "Rizo" popped up and he just tabbed to subject line, thus only letter "r" was left) and all this "scam" is obvious lie, let me explain just few moments why it was not scam in order to scam Rizo, Angerfist should be sure that addressee would get mail. he wasn't. he said to admins that he didn't know if that char would log at all, but he "just tried" in order to scam, he should be sure it was my char (as he said later to admins, he wanted to do most damage to rizo so epics would get to fightclub). he wasn't sure. he said he only knew that clan "syndicato'' in which char was, was Balu's. (this info about syndicato, btw, also was from Axzp as he was helping to search for char) and he didn't care that this char most likely could be Balu's or Axzp's as they also had chars in that clan, and not Tereza's or any other older member's who stopped actively playing two years ago. in order to scam Rizo, Angerfist should simply stay quiet and not send this "i scammed you" mail which would only help Rizo return items. at least Angerfist should have motive, right? wanna hear it? as Angerfist said, he did that because.. ready? - "Rizo would trashtalk latinos!". Rizo the racist! its simply obvious, that nobody scams by sending most expensive items to char he doesn't know who's is and doesn't know if char will log at all to accept mail. also hard to believe that Angerfist, known as "nice guy" on server, been perma hero in Rizo party, suddenly went rampage and committed "epic scam" not by sending items to current war, or at least to char he knew who was, not even rmt-ing such expensive items to invite his gf to Bali, but he "wanted to scam and do most damage" by simply sending epics to a char "who might be/not-be this and might be/not-be that and anyways he just tried". and dont forget, he sent event items also, because all these epics wasnt enough As one of most respected by me personally, admin said, what players say, doesn't matter. only logs matter. in this current case, logs also were checked. nobody logged anything without owner's permission, from suspicious or different IP or w.e. Rizo from his own IP logged his own char, with his own will sent items to Angerfist, as well as Angerfist logged from his own IP on his own char and sent items to other char. but it still was considered as "scam". now, my dear "ordinary" players, who were not that lucky to be "big players", let me share how this precedent can be used and abused from now on 1. If you drop epic/item when dying under mobs during pvp or farm, and item is picked by someone/war and wont return, this is what you do: you will say, that you did it on purpose to scam your leader. so you write ingame mail to your party/clan leader "yo, noob, i'm leaving and cp item is gone". then your pl/cl makes ticket that you did it on purpose to scam him, admins ask you: "did you?", you hit chest with fist and answer "yes, i did! because he said i have chubby belly from all that bear i drink!". and admins will decide it was scam and return dropped item from player who picked it BECAUSE that is literally what Rizo and Angerfist did 2. Good news you can PK anybody endlessly not caring about your PK count, because if you will be killed being PK and drop your items, you know what you do: (copy-paste) you will say, that you did it on purpose to scam your leader. so you write ingame mail to your party/clan leader "yo, noob, i'm leaving and cp item is gone". then your pl/cl makes ticket that you did it on purpose to scam him, admins ask you "did you?", you hit chest with fist and answer "yes, i did! because he said i have a chubby belly from all that beer i drink!". and admins will decide it was scam and return dropped item from player who picked it BECAUSE that is literally what Rizo and Angerfist did 3. How this precedent encourages rmt on server: if you are party/clan leader and want to rmt sell cl/pt items, you send them to 20 lvl char of your trusted friend from your pt/cl, he sends items to buyer. If ever such rmt will be revealed, you will say your pt member scammed you ( you know what to do to "prove" it), and admins will even return your items p.s. what we all lost with this case, is a chance of fair play and the "most damage" was still done - to all players and server reputation.

Because Axzp asked me for it Tbh, i also question myself, why i should return, because as i remember, no lost (dropped, mistraded, etc) epics and items were ever returned, especially if got by war. Maybe after some negotiations, what didnt took place in my case. So i thought maybe i missed smth and smth changed in "unwritten rules" of club, so i asked for your opinion.

Vote please

Follow the heart..

No wonder they see double numbers of enemy

Maybe you should cancel war with china to stop seeing double more numbers of war?

Next topic coming in about 40 min

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@KollSo if i got it right, you changed one of important rules after "accident" in favour of one particular player. I wonder if it ever happened before that you changed server rules, and does it mean, that whenever you like you can change rules back, or to opposite, or to something totally different if case relates to player that you dont like that much as you like rizo (or have to like) and suddenly you won't be able to return deleted items again?

Have you always dreamed of becoming hero, but you dont have time/will to play Olympiad every weekend? or you dont have experience/skills/gear/epics? after few or many attempts you keep failing and got disappointed, desperate, you gave up? Here is a solution! Classes - any date/time - any gear - any level - 55 + I'm willing to keep failing making your hero only for: 100kk 90kk for summer period! Don't miss your chance! p.s. nothing personal, just healthy competition

Poseidon is dead mainly when he is boxed, cuz when he is not, it looks like this

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@BlackJack masterclasses

I guess you weren't even drunk when left char afk equipped with epics. Not you who must be surprised by anything in this game. The main point was to make the rule more clear, personally me, i dont care neither about killing rb, nor ban and especially about ppl excited by any of this. p.s. i can say even more - i dont see on that screen how access to rb was restricted. nobody killing it, and nobody is asking Poseidon to let them in. Maybe he would open doors and invite if asked politely

We are talking about Lineage 2 game, and in this particular game, monster and npc are different things. There is NO npc listed in Monsters lists on any Lineage 2 site. This 1.14 rule definitely needs more clarification since its not first time it is subject of discussion. Also ordinary in-game feature such as opening-closing castle gates can not be counted as "restriction" because its not made artificially, and if it is restriction, then anything can mean restriction like pk-ing chars to not reach monster/npc and all those ppl with or without pets around olympiad managers or gatekeepers should be banned because they make impossible to target npc. ( yes, they restrict me to access npc by clicking with mouse)

Easily can ask the same -since when mobs are NPCs? We don't need two different terms for same thing. I couldnt find any single npc in monsters list on any l2 site. Mob is not NPC

1.14 Interfere with the other players’ gameplay, mechanically restricting their access to locations or NPCs. (for example, blocking access to the GC with summons, pets, transformations, etc.). NPC- non-player character - means npc, not mob - gatekeepers, shop-store npc, quest npc etc. Also restricting access to locations means artificially blocking the way which must be accessible for all. Would someone like to clear this rule for me, how it relates to mobs locked in castle. And no need to put me in defenders team or w.e please. If we have rules, they must be clear. If it includes mobs, then there must be written "to locations or NPC/Monsters". If i will pk all players trying to come to "Holy ark chest" in cemetery, will it be counted as "restricting access"?

Was interesting and surprisingly not boring for such length Waiting for next video where you farm oly hard and fight against all, including your clanmates and especially hero pretenders. Your leader will take it easy and won't dislike/hate you if you kill his ppl on oly i guess. Good luck killing them