SOiL 342 Report post Posted February 20, 2017 I understood why all debuffs on classic got this high land rate. On 3rd class our supports get resist debuff buffs which will work pretty fine (I guess) vs all of our CC skills. So from 90% land rate with pow/chant of spirit/stun resist will go to like 30-40% or so (Example).About stun, I don't want to be like "Okay you fixed my skills others are just fine" but stun shot imo is pretty strong right now as well as shield stun of human tanks, but I could like to see a video with tries like I did.If I had those classes I'd make videos for all stuns guys, but I don't have any of these classes. Beta for 2.0 will be pretty cool, we gonna test few things Share this post Link to post
MoDoy 1772 Report post Posted February 20, 2017 I understood why all debuffs on classic got this high land rate. On 3rd class our supports get resist debuff buffs which will work pretty fine (I guess) vs all of our CC skills. So from 90% land rate with pow/chant of spirit/stun resist will go to like 30-40% or so (Example).ok, so this is wrong, those things dont resist all CC, but just some debuffsAbout stun, I don't want to be like "Okay you fixed my skills others are just fine" but stun shot imo is pretty strong right now as well as shield stun of human tanks, but I could like to see a video with tries like I did.If I had those classes I'd make videos for all stuns guys, but I don't have any of these classes. Beta for 2.0 will be pretty cool, we gonna test few things haha, so u are pointing on your 2 stuns on gladi to fix that, yet u say "stun shot is fine", after i said i got 62/100 land rate instead of 90%, u do realize this stun is my only weapon on SR, i dont have hex skill like your glad, i dont have next 4 skills which can be casted under 2 seconds, each dealing 1-1.5k, ignoring block shield, so u gotta be kidding with this statementif u want video, i can make u one, i was frapsing it, but i thought its enough if i say its bugged and san0 can check it himself, and i deleted it because it was long at took like 10 GB of my space (at that time i deleted the shield stun and horror fear test as well, and many others tests i didnt even upload), just because it would be annoying and long to upload that sh1t, but sure, i can even make 500 tries and fraps it if it makes ppl happy Share this post Link to post
Rizos 1487 Report post Posted February 20, 2017 I love Soil's logic :D. Gladi with bugged aoe and tss reuse for 8 months, and he didnt bother to report bug. Now he found his stuns have too low land rate (along with all other stuns) but once his stun is fixed hes like oo now everything works ok all other skills work correct. lets keep all other classes fkd so he can kill em easier :D. If me and Modoy reported bugs same way as soil, there would be like 90% less bug fixes than there were so far. 1 Share this post Link to post
San0 2423 Report post Posted February 20, 2017 you guys are right, i missed cyane's topic with the stuns, the others are correct but soul breaker is indeed a bit lower then the rest.atm all other single target stun skills have same chance except for soul breaker. will get it fixed as soon as possible. Share this post Link to post
kkthx 245 Report post Posted February 20, 2017 you guys are right, i missed cyane's topic with the stuns, the others are correct but soul breaker is indeed a bit lower then the rest.atm all other single target stun skills have same chance except for soul breaker. will get it fixed as soon as possible.Let there be justice. Share this post Link to post
SOiL 342 Report post Posted February 21, 2017 I love Soil's logic :D. Gladi with bugged aoe and tss reuse for 8 months, and he didnt bother to report bug. Now he found his stuns have too low land rate (along with all other stuns) but once his stun is fixed hes like oo now everything works ok all other skills work correct. lets keep all other classes fkd so he can kill em easier :D. If me and Modoy reported bugs same way as soil, there would be like 90% less bug fixes than there were so far.See, san0 said it not me and I was pretty sure while I was getting stun on lionheart from archers sometimes and not from blasters/hammer crush.Also I did report my AOE skills which was bad for me and I spend more adena in aoe farm now. But yes you're just watching what hurts you more. (You can check history) Hate me more Share this post Link to post
Rizos 1487 Report post Posted February 21, 2017 Rly soil u reported aoe? Cos i remember it was fixed after my report Share this post Link to post
Nurjke 4 Report post Posted February 21, 2017 I love Soil's logic :D. Gladi with bugged aoe and tss reuse for 8 months, and he didnt bother to report bug. Now he found his stuns have too low land rate (along with all other stuns) but once his stun is fixed hes like oo now everything works ok all other skills work correct. lets keep all other classes fkd so he can kill em easier :D. If me and Modoy reported bugs same way as soil, there would be like 90% less bug fixes than there were so far.See, san0 said it not me and I was pretty sure while I was getting stun on lionheart from archers sometimes and not from blasters/hammer crush.Also I did report my AOE skills which was bad for me and I spend more adena in aoe farm now. But yes you're just watching what hurts you more. (You can check history) Hate me more This soil. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4r1l0HYjtow Share this post Link to post
SOiL 342 Report post Posted February 21, 2017 Rly soil u reported aoe? Cos i remember it was fixed after my report I'm not saying this, also I told you again about reuse time, I had no idea it's in description cause I used to play old chronicles.I was talking about aoe that you no needed charges and doing full damage. Now to make full damage you need 2 charges.I got full 7 sonic charges, before my report when I was using my aoe you still had 7 and doing full damage, now you need to "sonic" sonic" 2 times to use full dmg, if you get what i'm saying. Whatever wrong i'm seeing even on my char ofc i'll report, now you can shut it please and stop hating, after crying of 6 months for your fc nobody said something to you (at least me). Share this post Link to post
Rizos 1487 Report post Posted February 21, 2017 Nobody? Mby u didnt, but many haters did.. (Even in my own cp ) Share this post Link to post
Arcanum 312 Report post Posted February 21, 2017 meanwhile, stun canceling is still a joke.i haven't found any infos regarding stun canceling in classic, last time i checked for infos it was about 25-30% rate, but i have the feeling that it's higher in this server.i guess it will require some testing as well. Share this post Link to post
Cyane 230 Report post Posted February 21, 2017 meanwhile, stun canceling is still a joke.i haven't found any infos regarding stun canceling in classic, last time i checked for infos it was about 25-30% rate, but i have the feeling that it's higher in this server.i guess it will require some testing as well.same with spell casting interruption, it seems to not work correctly. considering that most mages go -15 men (if it has any influence) i would expect to see more casting interruptions, but havent found official tests to prove it either Share this post Link to post
qloc01 207 Report post Posted February 21, 2017 my lv75 ovl is now more OP ,ty soil Share this post Link to post
datplays 191 Report post Posted February 21, 2017 Rly soil u reported aoe? Cos i remember it was fixed after my report I'm not saying this, also I told you again about reuse time, I had no idea it's in description cause I used to play old chronicles.I was talking about aoe that you no needed charges and doing full damage. Now to make full damage you need 2 charges.I got full 7 sonic charges, before my report when I was using my aoe you still had 7 and doing full damage, now you need to "sonic" sonic" 2 times to use full dmg, if you get what i'm saying. Whatever wrong i'm seeing even on my char ofc i'll report, now you can shut it please and stop hating, after crying of 6 months for your fc nobody said something to you (at least me).Rly soil u reported aoe? Cos i remember it was fixed after my report http://l2classic.club/forum/topic/10486-sonic-storm-reuse-time/#comment-61875 plz bow down to my feet. I did report on that very 1st time.8 month server old i joined CP and i could first time drive somebodys gladiator, i found this bug within 10min and in next 10min reported it.Plz, stop.Playing mage, dying under mobs on aoe, while trash gladiator in his heavy armor was shooting mobs from range aoe. 8 month not a single glad reported it, just mage that drive glad. Logic. Share this post Link to post
Haibara 23 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 On 20/2/2017 at 1:16 PM, kkthx said: Well excuse me San0, u checked and adjusted (fixed?) land rate of reported skills. But what about of the rest stun skills? They should be revised in that case also. Its been increased 2 stuns of Gladiator, how about the rest of classes? What about classes that got only 1 stun skill, which makes them alrdy behind compared to 2 stuns on Gladiators.For example - of course, bcoz thats where my experience comes from - Tyrant, compared to some shield stun or other stun skills Soul Breaker has poor landrate. So skills of classes below advantages of other classes should be checked coz skills what Gladiator comes from (skill evasion, stun resistance, ranged stun etc.) so its hard to compare Tyrant to it, and i see only adjusting of Gladiator stuns here. Or myby im just wrong and should make different topic about Soul Breaker? Coz i thought if we talk about stuns then all stun skills going to be checked. MAN dont talk sh1t , soul breaker its OP or Broke, i think its one of the most powerful stuns on game . (talking damage and stun rate, and land ) cause a tyr lvl 66/67 can stun me easy (lvl 71) . so.... take ur maths Share this post Link to post
kkthx 245 Report post Posted February 25, 2017 15 hours ago, Haibara said: MAN dont talk sh1t , soul breaker its OP or Broke, i think its one of the most powerful stuns on game . (talking damage and stun rate, and land ) cause a tyr lvl 66/67 can stun me easy (lvl 71) . so.... take ur maths On 20.02.2017 at 9:03 PM, San0 said: you guys are right, i missed cyane's topic with the stuns, the others are correct but soul breaker is indeed a bit lower then the rest. atm all other single target stun skills have same chance except for soul breaker. will get it fixed as soon as possible. silence now pls Share this post Link to post
Haibara 23 Report post Posted February 25, 2017 you dont see what happends in game rly ? if you are a fan isnt my problem. go with tyr and eat some soul break. Share this post Link to post
Rizos 1487 Report post Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) Tested tyrant stun 4 days ago. Tyrant 65 vs 63 se. 63/100. Should be 90/100 Edited February 25, 2017 by Rizos Share this post Link to post
Phoenix 289 Report post Posted February 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Rizos said: Tested tyrant stun 4 days ago. Tyrant 65 vs 63 se. 63/100. Should be 90/100 Not a fact. Share this post Link to post
Rizos 1487 Report post Posted February 25, 2017 What is not a fact? Even sano admited he will adjust tyrant stun on next restart because now, the chance is lower than should Share this post Link to post
Arcanum 312 Report post Posted February 26, 2017 https://4gameforum.com/threads/507047/ a fact. from offi. Share this post Link to post
kkthx 245 Report post Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) On 20.02.2017 at 9:03 PM, San0 said: you guys are right, i missed cyane's topic with the stuns, the others are correct but soul breaker is indeed a bit lower then the rest. atm all other single target stun skills have same chance except for soul breaker. will get it fixed as soon as possible. Any news for Soul Breaker? coz the 2 stuns before were fixed very fast Edited February 28, 2017 by kkthx Share this post Link to post
Arcanum 312 Report post Posted March 1, 2017 i'd like to have infos/updates about the current stun canceling rate as well, if it's possible. being forced to stunlock people to death everytime just to prevent them from using bsoe/pr has become quite a joke. if i had to use only 1 button for pvp, i would have played dwarf instead... 1 Share this post Link to post