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​Sure, you only want to argue with people who are agree with you. You're too afraid to lose your items if the pk scrolls change. You will not be too brave, eh?. So, they come here only because the can't drop items if they pk someone?. My god, that's classic for you?.

This topic is dedicated to all the cry-whining-QQ-emoquit people in our community craving for an update to make their life easier here. I chose this server after at least 3 weeks of searching and criticizing both talking island x3 and Innova’s official Classic Joke forums/announcements etc, before starting somewhere and investing time. Let me tell you guys that this server’s head team cannot be compared to Innova’s Jokes. I wouldn’t mind stating a few things to justify that: Punishing bots & rewarding/fast ticket responds/asking and implementing community’s opinions on many things that affect gameplay etc! So I chose this server because they promised that it wouldn’t be fast-paced like ALL the other private servers out there. If I wanted to rush and hit top lvls with B grades and A grades I would choose a freaking Interlude server. I’m only here because I ENJOY CLASSIC and nothing more, I enjoy everything that “grows” and changes SLOWLY. Not mentioning the fact that all of the QQ-people that want an update didn’t even hit top lvls in terms of gear and end-game stuff etc. If you want a dead server soon, an easy adena drop, infinite bots and huge lack of balance move to Innova, we won't miss you. Last but not least, let's talk about the fact that I'd rather have a server where an official ANNOUNCEMENT is VALID and is always on time, than announcements that look like: update's gonna be xx/xx/xxxx and when that date comes they re-schedule it like tardInnova has done multiple times!!!!!! I prefer a smaller community that want the same things, appreciating the server they play in, enjoying and having fun, farming as full groups with no shots with hard mode on etc, instead of crying kids who complain about everything. Go, we won’t miss you!

Hello everyone. I wouldn't be expressing that much of an opinion but more to present the real facts and also to ask ourselves a simple questions. What kind of a server, especially when we are talking about a "classic" one, would have a pk scrolls ? Can someone explain please where have you seen something like that in retail Lineage 2. If we would call our server classic, the better server, the server we would prefer instead of others - then let it be like this way. The karma in Lineage 2 is something very serious. Yes, everyone wants fun but hey that are the clan wars for after all. But the fun ends when you are farming on your own, or with some friends and out of a sudden comes a player much higher than you and so his equipment (or maybe a whole party) and decides to kill you just for fun ! Yes, you are right, it is fun... for some, for others is leaving the server since pk isn't something scary anymore, you drop from mobs more than from pk. I understand that in L2 all is about dominance and power but not free massacre. It happens to all of us sometimes to be the pk, go on no one stops you but you will carry the consequences for this act. It is not about who can play and who can not. All right, lets follow your logic. Make carnage everywhere, return everyone in kindergarten and half of them with dropped equipment and then what? What happens when 2-3 clans in the whole server is playing with players 20 -30 lvl below just because they get pk everywhere and could not even show their noses outside the safe zone. At the end "The mighty conquerors" of the server will get bored because the real fun and design in Lineage 2 will be gone. Is not L2 all about that - fair competition. Then we will judge who can play and who will eventually play better. My persoanl opinion is that these pk scrolls only disbalance the game and change the retail state of the game. Like I said, this is only an opinion. I hope there will be more players thinking similiar because we already have a good start for ending the server. If you do not agree no one judges you but do not judge others who want to play the real L2. Nowadays everyone can make a server - go make your own and do what you want if you can not stand the real hardcore, or go play in java servers (very good option). If you do not agree to see the sense, It does not bother me at all, ask me if I give a ship ! Thank you all who vote for the "more realistic server" I wish you all gооd luck and much fun ! I vote for the quest system.

you could have "use floran only" now you get the quest. i like:DD

​this change is core, other no. ​​Oh, right?. I think transformaitons, CH on Aden and this stuff is more Core.

People want to play Classic L2, want to Pk but they don't want to drop items while they're PK and want to clean PK with on click. Nice logic.

Dear friends! We want to finally put an end to the dispute about the use of a PK scrolls. This poll will be running till restart on Friday. As information about the poll will be announced on the forum and in the game. After the end of the poll, changes, based on the results. will be implemented or right on Friday, or in the near future. The opinion of the administration will be also expressed during the discussion, but will not be counted in the vote results. That is completely up to you and we will take every your decision. But we will not tolerate attempts to cheat on voting. If player will be caught voting multiple times from different accounts - all his votes will be deleted. All new topics will be locked with reference to this thread.

​All fake votes revealed earlier. If new will appear, they will also be excluded and announced. To Morim: We won't touch the poll till it's finished. Fake votes will be removed after Poll is over.

I mean I don't give a fuk about scrolls because I don't pk much people, only the ones who pk me. But changes happened because of bunch "top forum players"(like me) voted on some dumb poll and made a decision to use scrolls only in floran with reuse of 3 minutes LOL. Why just don't make scroll prices 100k and 500 k. So if u want to pk u have to pay? even for archer party 60+ its not so easy to get 2 kk to clear karma. ( I'm not talking about raid drops). Scenario: Random clan farming in top spot, you come to the spot and u need it. Pk them, clear karma. Then they come again, stealing farm. PK again, clear again. U get more than 4 PK's and what then? U have to go to floran for 12 minutes and back to the spot 20 minutes only because u are stronger and cant pick spot because they don't accept war? LOOOOOL. It's like be passive clan, don't hit anyone and u still can farm in top with best exp and drops. Second thing. Karma clearing too easy. I don't think that is how it should be. 720 karma per character is dumb. It is half dark lord in ct2. My idea: Make karma harder to clear, increase scroll price and leave how it was.

​Most ppl 40- dont need to pk (there are a lot of spot for exp), if they pk wait to 40+ to take off pk count or make a greater sacrifice and take it of (a real hardcore). The problem with the pk is that they are higher lvl and its unbalanced, killing low lvls, not same lvl, newbies cant defend theyr selves.... (ppl with lvl 30 char stop playing). pp 40+ have tools to make quest. IMO, u dont need to modify nothing, just put quest I totally agree. Low levels can wait to make the quest and make pk's with a bit of brain.​

​sorry but you are silly. Ofc people have special chars special to PK, they made them only for one goal to PK when need it. And they don't care about it level, karma, ect. And in this case no matter way to clean pk score cuz no one will clean it. But its huge painass in other cases. So pk scrolls dont affect them, so this should be off topic. Why keep the scrolls and make pk loose its meaning then? And pain in ass is why we all love l2

5. If its hardcore, you clean your karma the hard way, or drop your items. All those who dont want them removed, and saying that it wont change anything are the ones using them ​most often. And i think its not so nice to sacrifice char for perma pk. Even if you do he is most likely to loose level, while others gain it. So in long term your pk char will be useless or you will have to level him. If you pk, u deal with the consequensesssssszzzz. It makes pk even more hardcore

In my Honest opinion scrolls should stay as they are. I read somewhere that NCsoft increased the price of scrolls in 2.0 and this would be the best option to keep everyone happy. Players who PK now will spend the same amount of time farming Adena as doing the Sin eater quest its all the same. Since PKing is part of the game it should stay as it is. just change the amount of adena needed to get them scrolls and remove them from Nostalgia. Anyways remember its just a game we should be enjoying ourselfs not pickering because we lost 50%xp today or will lose 100% xp tomorrow, its hardcore L2 like we love it. cheers and happy gamings. Hitsutai.

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Если выбирать из первого варианта 1 или 5, то мой несомненный выбор в 5 варианте. 1 вариант вводит дисбаланс в систему прокачки персонажей. If you choose from the first embodiment 1 or 5, then the obvious choice for a 5 version. Option 1 introduces imbalance into the system of leveling.

Why ? No one is making you leave your spot after you PK. Why would you leave please tell me? If you`re scared that`s your problem you can`t drop an item from a player when you`re white no matter the number of PK points you have. You can drop from mobs but if mobs kill you the chance to drop something is always present. I really can`t understand the stupid excuse you have to leave spot to clean PK`s - you only need to return the quest. Or in other words go to the Black Judge npc once you`re done farming. The same way you only need to go and buy PK scrolls once you`re done farming from the very same NPC. So your leaving the spot is a made up argument. You can level your imp right on the spot, there is no special imp leveling location. And seeing how there are really no other arguments against this except the made up one I hope that it`ll be checked how actually all this crying from the presumably "big levels" tough we have only a handful of ppl crying here how this will ruin it for them (not everyone that are against it are like that) and how in Morim`s poll they were a measly 20% and here they`re 50 and probably will be more. That`s a strange discrepancy right there. 5 minute cooldown ? that`ll help ... I can`t really understand what is so hard to get - bringing the quest back will not stop you from PKing for your spot or the PK chars with max karma it`ll however stop people that are scared to have more than 3 pk points, it will actually be the same but they`ll be scared and won`t dare to kill anyone. And yet again we have people here trying to scare the server that they`ll go on perma pk spree in cruma or dv or w/e. If you`re scared to defend your own spot and take the risk for PKing please , do not ever use the word hardcore ever again.

pls someone come pk me, i am so lonely NA times. everyone is sleeping. ​ Shot00020.bmp I hope my balls are big enough for u. ​yea huge balls with devotion ...lol, what a retard ... personally i dont give a fuck about pk.. but when everyone QQ and leaves u are gonna end up playing a dead server and start crying yourself. l2 has the most toxic retarded community ever ​I beg to differ. League of Legends takes the cake on "most toxic retarded community ever" award! ​Idk man, people wouldn't clan me / party with me cus im a 'dark' elf. Racists. The fact that people want to pvp/pk in 1.0 with a -10% exp drop eludes me completely. War or not. Die by a mob while pvping, say goodbye to hours of exping. I've never seen a more masochistic pack of Russians. 'Russian Esports' lol. I guess SP > EXP end game? Any competent player who played classic back in 2003 can tell in 5 seconds that pk scrolls is a cancer clown fiesta, and the only reason why they want to keep it is so they can pretend they're playing innova. Its really quite sad. Its not rocket science people, its Lineage II. I personally think the whole fiasco is hilarious. I've never seen russians use terrorism in l2 before. Its basically what theyre doing. I wonder how the gms will respond. I feel bad for them tbh. Either way people will hate the gms for their actions, kind of like the way every country loves to hate America for some reason.

​ Shot00020.bmp I hope my balls are big enough for u. ​yea huge balls with devotion ...lol, what a retard ... personally i dont give a fuck about pk.. but when everyone QQ and leaves u are gonna end up playing a dead server and start crying yourself. l2 has the most toxic retarded community ever ​I beg to differ. League of Legends takes the cake on "most toxic retarded community ever" award!

I`d like to ask if it`s possible to have an announcement in-game that there is a poll for the PK scrolls going on at the forums as a lot of people do not visit the forum and have 1 or 2 players informing them if there is something or log from time to time. Aduha dude i`m not sure that you`re not mistaking something. Lets say i`m in Cruma and you come and kill my whole party cuz you want that spot - you stay there, clean your karma - because that is a spot for your level range and i come again but you`re white ;/ so option 1 - i leave you alone or try to flag you; option 2 - just kill you the moment i see you(and your party); option 3 - you see me coming but you want that spot so you kill me again(more karma more points). You`re talking about the 3rd option where you take and defend a spot and you might need to PK to do so. Okay do it - clean your karma then summon the imp level him up and after you`re over and won`t play more for the day go and return the quest and get a X number of PK points cleared . Then repeat and again and again. No one is making you leave your spot. If you`re scared ofc you`ll leave if you`re not - you`ll stay. You can not drop anything when you`re white and another player kills you no matter how much pk points you have. If you`re red the chance is higher, if a mob kills you, the chance is always there white,red,0 pk points or above 3 - doesn`t matter. /p.s. also i was normally going to the black judge in Hardins not all the way to Floran to return the quest - it`s up to you which of the 3( I think there were 3 black judge npc`s in the world) will you choose to visit and when. Keeping a spot will be the same - kill or be killed/leave. If you`re talking about somethign else, please try to explain it.

You will able to pk people before this change, but just need to do it with a bit of brain. Not pk all people, or you can drop your ítems. That's all.

​because they are stupid, ignorants or just purely selfish. and they canot look at the scenarium as it rly is... pk scrolls or not, everyone will still get their asses wiped on the floor whenever those ppl are bored. cus they just log chars who no one gives a fuk and go with devotion set and non grade weapon and pop everyone up soe to CH, w8 20 minutes, repeat. and guess what? they will not clean the karma or the pks, they will just keep doing the same. it will only hurt the ppl who wants to use the pk decently as a tool to fight over a boss or a spot. what the point of pking pl to take spot or boss if after you have to leave anyway to go and clean the pks? ppl is just too much care bear, and they dont want to get their asses poped, and they think by removing the pk scrolls something will change on that part but it will not, it will only hurt the ones who play the game for real. and it wont bring anything new for the ones who stay level 30 forever. ​ah you want pk, keep spot and not drop items. who is carebear now? with changes you can still pk, you dont have to leave spot to clear. only if you scared to lose items you have to clear or not pk.

pk scrolls or not pk chars will exist - no idea why ppl are so butthurt about the CHANCE of this being changed. You won`t have WoW you`ll just need to make a quest instead of using scrolls. Looking at the forum there are "hardcore players" that kill someone get 6 pks , use 2 scrolls and only after that they kill again. That`s carebearish you either pk or you don`t. If you don`t have the balls for it don`t go crying for every little thing that is not in your interest.

quest its classic! only hard mode

Bring the quest back. That`s where my vote goes too.

5 is best, fun place that all ppl will meet on quest near that npc, lots of pvp and thats part of l2 and what makes it hardcore to exp

One more thread about pk scroll discussion and i will close them all and block forum accounts for everyone involved in this discussions.

​Only because they could drop the items making a lot pk?. Too mature for me. BTW, can you explain me why i'm a selfish person?. Your arguments are strong.

you shoud consider the opposite opinion as well, reaver, maybe theyre crying babies but you behave like a rage baby right now, mama wont return your toys

​Totally I want play L2C with PK scrolls as they should be. Kill > clean karma > clean score. Like it on any other L2C server. ​As they should be why?. Because Innova have this feature?. This is NOT a "Classic" L2. As a lot other features they have. Kill > clean karma (and you can drop) > Runaway and pray to be able to clean your score. EDIT: PK is a important part os L2, like catch ad get a drop for a PK (ad this part don't exist at the moment here).

​I heard enough cry from this community. they want play ez. this thread is riot thread ​You must loose items if you PK more then 5 people. Yes, you must have function to decrease this PK, but not with pushing 1 button. 

​​This sadly is making people leave - no information on the important stuff.

Все правильно - не важно ,какая пачка- грудастое ШЕ украсит собой любую пати