why is it relevant to moral, rizos? its a part of the game, everyone abusing it, you just more unlucky than others, and fairplay ? so what you want? they should shout before comming to you? So in ur opinion pvp is player+mobs vs player right. U have 0 respect for ur oponents. Untill now i was always kiling ppl instead of being such cancer, but if ur ally thinks its" part of game" to help mobs kill ppl instead of pvp then ok. Ill do the same from now on, just plz dont come to forum and cry i stun ppl under mobs etc. Cu in game and prepare more bsoes Taking items by loging ur own acc or taking items from killing ppl to mobs. Both result in same thing - items loss. For me there is no difference. If the guy hacked acc that would be different story but dude, this is not just about one item, ok? i dont expect them to give back that homu 12, and they dont just take ONE item but they forced a guy they know in real life to quit even though they knew themself that after all those time, he lvl up that char most of by himself, he bought his gears by his donation, bought shots by adena he collects from each mobs. So please, stop complaining about your orfen, you made mistake, you paid the price, but Eirne havent done anything wrong to them, ok? traitor? He didnt rely anything on them, they could play da game, he also could, they wanted to be something here so they joined a side war but he didnt care, he plays only for himself and have fun by himself alone, he doesnt own them anything ! he has rights to choose a clan which make him more comfortable, no one here has right to judge him. We make friends becoz we like them, wanna talk to them, we dont make friends so they can be some kind of prison or some kind of judge who tells you which is dirty and which is not, no, thats how normal ppl make friends.