i feel like this reply of yours is full of bullsh1ts first of all i didnt came here with my wc talks and this my question about wc being mage was not for that guy who even made this disccusion or whatever u call this topic but to the guy who thinks i am mages. 2nd thing being mage ur job is to deal dmg not to survive longer, this is the job that other party members have to deal with. In real pvps ur shield def will let u avoid 1-2 skill, gz u would survive extra 2s. Dont play like potato mage and u will survive much longer and u will not need to cry about extra pdef from shields I see majority server mages playing with 2h staff for both pve and pvp and now what u want to say all of them just bunch of newbies that knows nothing about items value?