Koll

​Totally agree, for example, acumen SA in old l2 gave 15% casting speed, while now if i am not mistaken, at max lvl (13) gives 6.65%, just lol (and no, the weight limit dont compensate at all), limit to +5 will only break the balance, ncsoft alrdy gave compensation for those classes where +15 is not as good as in other classes via skills, is just dumb cap it as +5 but implement rushes in melees, shadow step and many others balance givers.   This is new passive skills. So Elf mage will have +13% cast speed ( with passive ) + 6.5% cast speed ( with SA ) = 19.5% cast speed.

​I can only rely on facts and proofs. It can't be "maybe", "I think so" or anything other. 

​ROK people was collecting information to proof that OCHOBA RMT, they wasn't planing to buy chars or CHs. From the other side OCHOBA was planing to sell chars and CHs. Question is still remained, why they asked about Ochoba's account is sold to someone or not?  And why you want another people to do your job? Will you give them anything by doing so? If yes, what is the reward of being a traitor to their friends? I guess its must be expensive gift because it comes from GMs of the server Roks tried to buy clan hall or tried to collect proofs about RMT to send those to GMs. Ok i get it ! So i dont see anything involed to buy or sell character here You can ban Dankhal for whatever reasons. I dont care about it anymore Anyway, its your server, your choice to do anything you want. Im not gonna fight or talk about this anymore. Decision cant be changed ! End up, its lesson for everyone. You guys know GMs power and there is alot of people who cant win fight in game. They tried to kiss GMs asses by betraying their friends, setting them to trap so GMs will protect them, help them to ban some characters of their enemies and close their eyes to let those people keep playing in this server. Even they also tried to do RMT, but GMs can forgive them and cover them by " They were trying to collect proofs about RMT to help GMs " Yes, you are right ! There is no rule about banned people who do those things like that ! HOW FAIR IT IS     ​1) No one doing our job, people are just active and want to help server. 2) They doesn't get anything for this. 3) "I have necro 69 if you want" - please take 2 min and READ 1st post. And it's only that we showed. DANKHAL was SOLD. DANKHAL is ex OCHOBA before he changed char name. How you explain this 4) "You can ban DANKHAL" - he was SOLD = RMT. DANKHAL = OCHOBA. RMT is server rules restricted. 5) Even they also tried to do RMT, but GMs can forgive them and cover them by " They were trying to collect proofs about RMT to help GMs " - No they don't. They contacted us right after first dialogue, we showed it.  3.1 Disrespectful speech or defamation addressed to the server administration or the project itself. "I guess its must be expensive gift because it comes from GMs of the server " "They tried to kiss GMs asses"   Koll, im done here at this topic. Dont bring any rule to show me here because im not breaking anything. Wasnt 500 cols untradeable to Dee last time not expensive? Each person has different out look and action at same thing. So its your server, your right to do whatever you want or whatever you feel thats right ! Have a nice new week ! ​I don't understand how you connected Dee ( which was my mistake ) and person selling items for real money. And also I told they doesn't get anything for this.  Also you are breaking rules and I showed it to you which one.

​ROK people was collecting information to proof that OCHOBA RMT, they wasn't planing to buy chars or CHs. From the other side OCHOBA was planing to sell chars and CHs. Question is still remained, why they asked about Ochoba's account is sold to someone or not?  And why you want another people to do your job? Will you give them anything by doing so? If yes, what is the reward of being a traitor to their friends? I guess its must be expensive gift because it comes from GMs of the server Roks tried to buy clan hall or tried to collect proofs about RMT to send those to GMs. Ok i get it ! So i dont see anything involed to buy or sell character here You can ban Dankhal for whatever reasons. I dont care about it anymore Anyway, its your server, your choice to do anything you want. Im not gonna fight or talk about this anymore. Decision cant be changed ! End up, its lesson for everyone. You guys know GMs power and there is alot of people who cant win fight in game. They tried to kiss GMs asses by betraying their friends, setting them to trap so GMs will protect them, help them to ban some characters of their enemies and close their eyes to let those people keep playing in this server. Even they also tried to do RMT, but GMs can forgive them and cover them by " They were trying to collect proofs about RMT to help GMs " Yes, you are right ! There is no rule about banned people who do those things like that ! HOW FAIR IT IS     ​1) No one doing our job, people are just active and want to help server. 2) They doesn't get anything for this. 3) "I have necro 69 if you want" - please take 2 min and READ 1st post. And it's only that we showed. DANKHAL was SOLD. DANKHAL is ex OCHOBA before he changed char name. How you explain this 4) "You can ban DANKHAL" - he was SOLD = RMT. DANKHAL = OCHOBA. RMT is server rules restricted. 5) Even they also tried to do RMT, but GMs can forgive them and cover them by " They were trying to collect proofs about RMT to help GMs " - No they don't. They contacted us right after first dialogue, we showed it.  3.1 Disrespectful speech or defamation addressed to the server administration or the project itself. "I guess its must be expensive gift because it comes from GMs of the server " "They tried to kiss GMs asses"  

​He was not playingHe was trying to RMT which is forbiddenHe got bannedEnd of story.Why to care about ppl that break rules AND was not playing anymore anyway. He try to do drama now, how hurt he is, the truth is that he didnt lost anything coz hes was long time not playing anyway. Yet he cry he is banned and got no money, like somebody care ​wrong. money is not problem. problem is people who can say hi friend and make backstab. problem is a corruption. problem this a cover realy rmt. ​problem is breaking rules, rules have been broken. Doesnt matter how they were found. If he didnt sin, he is not afraid ​It's most of the players problems. When they get caught they trying to tell anything to prove that it wasn't them. OCHOBA started that it wasn't him, then it was a joke. I remember botter was telling me that it was his little brother playing and because he doesn't understand how to do nothing ( only can kill mobs ) - he wasn't responding, but then I showed that his "brother" was targeting mobs that person can't see and was trying to kill them. He confessed that he was botting ( because proof was showing it ). Here are the same. OCHOBA mad and trying to tell anything to get items/chars back and maybe try to sell them again.

​ochoba or dankhal no have clan hall for selling. if we speak about this player. but getting ban for try selling air? ochoba leave server and give all stuff for friend HACPATb. and they not selling nothing. this man play for fun. not for money. ​Just found out that you are OCHOBA. 

​RMT is against rules. Please read them.

​we not have it. From first post:  (facepalm) ​but it is not "proof that it's was him in game"    

I understand that you was just trying to sell of Real money and you not get them + was banned. I understand why you are angry, why you mad at me and on anyone. But please start be responsible for your actions.

​OCHOBA is RMT, so I understand why you are angry. ​is not a fact ​It's fact, even you approved it.

 

​we not have it. From first post:  (facepalm)

growing up kid. They did bait to ban OCHOBA chars just because report without proof from ROK so GM asking them find out more proof somehow they contact to bait OCHOBA to asking about info of this account but the answer is SECRET price but its still not a good enough proof to banning DANKHAL and OCHOBA's chars banned by reason is he planning to sell chars plus ch to ROK not because they have proof that HWARANG bought OCHOBA char. DANKHAL was OCHOBA's char but where is proofs that OCHOBA sold char to HWARANG ??? And next, did we have proofs that OCHOBA already sold chars plus clan hall to ROK or it just was bait to ban OCHOBA but without any payment (like they said :V) and still just planning but seem like every plan started from ROK. The PROOF in this case must be payment bill with reason or let adding few more rules like this​ 1.6.1 Planning to Buy, sell or exchange ingame goods/adena/accounts for real currencies. 1.7.1 Planning to Buy, sell or exchange game accounts and characters. ​P/s: maybe it was lag or something wrong that I didn't see my post so I write to post it again here ​ ​It's not because he answered "SECRET" it's because he was making offer and was waiting to get money. Isn't it enough to think that person is trying to sell items for real money? He gave where to transfer money. I know that he doesn't get money, but it's more then enough to understand that person was trying to sell for real money and if he would find buyer he would actually sell items. Every offer are came from rok as i read all post here so read my funny story. So again what is real reason to ban Dankhal in this case, it like your topic or just like what u says now cuz Ochoba just trying to sell CH to his GOOD friend but dont forget a payment is done or not and if it done did u have all that proof about planning to do rmt between rok and ochoba before ochoba posted here or your topic just another one bait for him do mistake to approve that he did rmt? Ok let see what ochoba write above and check the time when they contact him. It really bait or they was wana buy it with ilegal way before they contact u?  And one more question who know all that proofs showed from rok is bait or just they told u its bait??? ​​I don't see OCHOBA reporting that they trying to buy for real money before he was banned.

​I already explained you: [Sat.10.12.2016 18:48:22] Игорь Абрамович: so, i need to pm someone for buying adena for real money. dont like a price. give message to you. and you get him in ban. and i go to next man for looking adena. this is work? [Sat.10.12.2016 18:50:25] Koll Classic: You need to PM, he must tell that he is interested, he must give where to send money, proof that it's was him in game and in skype and then - yes.

​ROK people was collecting information to proof that OCHOBA RMT, they wasn't planing to buy chars or CHs. From the other side OCHOBA was planing to sell chars and CHs.

​OCHOBA is RMT, so I understand why you are angry.

He is not OCHOBA, so no needed to do it with him.

Hello. Can you show screen?

After this we was collecting information. And still wasn't banning because didn't had enough proofs. Only few days ago we get enough of them to ban person.

​After this post we asked proofs:  

​hey this confirming about 2 side rmt without deal ​Yes, for 1 side it was "trying to get money for items", from another side it was "getting more proofs for admins".

 

This is OCHOBA confirming that he was trying to RMT: We also have this info in proofs that we have. 

growing up kid. They did bait to ban OCHOBA chars just because report without proof from ROK so GM asking them find out more proof somehow they contact to bait OCHOBA to asking about info of this account but the answer is SECRET price but its still not a good enough proof to banning DANKHAL and OCHOBA's chars banned by reason is he planning to sell chars plus ch to ROK not because they have proof that HWARANG bought OCHOBA char. DANKHAL was OCHOBA's char but where is proofs that OCHOBA sold char to HWARANG ??? And next, did we have proofs that OCHOBA already sold chars plus clan hall to ROK or it just was bait to ban OCHOBA but without any payment (like they said :V) and still just planning but seem like every plan started from ROK. The PROOF in this case must be payment bill with reason or let adding few more rules like this​ 1.6.1 Planning to Buy, sell or exchange ingame goods/adena/accounts for real currencies. 1.7.1 Planning to Buy, sell or exchange game accounts and characters. ​P/s: maybe it was lag or something wrong that I didn't see my post so I write to post it again here ​ ​It's not because he answered "SECRET" it's because he was making offer and was waiting to get money. Isn't it enough to think that person is trying to sell items for real money? He gave where to transfer money. I know that he doesn't get money, but it's more then enough to understand that person was trying to sell for real money and if he would find buyer he would actually sell items.

​I have to agree on this one, it really looks like borderline witch hunting atm... Not a huge fan of this all since the beginning. ​Please read server rules, it's basic rules for most of the servers. RMT is braking server rules. ​but why u closing eyes for rmt in some clans  ​We are not closing eyes. Show proofs - people will be banned. But telling "I know they was making it" - is not enough to ban.