San0 2420 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 28 minutes ago, Aduha said: in about 25 to 30 minutes on my skype: Random dagger: "LOOK LOOK videos on official guy hits for 20k+ while in your server my lvl 60 dagger hits only for 2k" 3 Share this post Link to post
BlackJack 574 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 i am 77 necro and got onehit by a dagger full buffs / no songs 1v1. My total hp is 9800 with pain transfer. Daggers are fine. They are just not stupid op like on older chronicles and require brain to play/use. Share this post Link to post
Dem0 2 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, BlackJack said: i am 77 necro and got onehit by a dagger full buffs / no songs 1v1. My total hp is 9800 with pain transfer. Daggers are fine. They are just not stupid op like on older chronicles and require brain to play/use. Probably on CDL Edited November 1, 2017 by Dem0 Share this post Link to post
BlackJack 574 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 10 minutes ago, Dem0 said: Probably on CDL full hp i have 4900 and pain transfer on, Share this post Link to post
kktnxbye 215 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 1 month ago i was also had 1-hit rape by 70lvl dagger to 74sps full buff\no songs 5k+ And not even a christmas card on christmas @Reaper "every class 78+ will have 7k+ HP pools" I have some doubts that sps\sph will have 7k+ hp on 78 Now daggers finally have their tp to target skill - should be happy af I guess Share this post Link to post
kkthx 245 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 3 hours ago, Piecat said: Thanks for your immensely useful input again. People post complaints , because there is a reason to complain you cretin. Stop visiting this thread, you embarrass yourself. u forget its not working when u re on Legiana level stop boiling kid or ur heart will stop and take some dagger lessons so u can come and apologize me Share this post Link to post
Reaper 84 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 1 hour ago, BlackJack said: i am 77 necro and got onehit by a dagger full buffs / no songs 1v1. My total hp is 9800 with pain transfer. Daggers are fine. They are just not stupid op like on older chronicles and require brain to play/use. Since it was 1 shot as you said, it doesnt matter if you had TP on or not, since TP is counted after you get dmg = the shot you would die w/o TP wont be divided to summon and you get full dmg of blow, so the dagger needed only 5k BS (which if you think is 2500 normal BS, which isnt certainly that much to be honest) 23 minutes ago, kktnxbye said: 1 month ago i was also had 1-hit rape by 70lvl dagger to 74sps full buff\no songs 5k+ And not even a christmas card on christmas @Reaper "every class 78+ will have 7k+ HP pools" I have some doubts that sps\sph will have 7k+ hp on 78 Now daggers finally have their tp to target skill - should be happy af I guess 7k+ with fruit on, 6k+ w/o if you feel like it (referring to 22:30 and he is only 76 and not 78) Once again as i said up, 5k backstab just means that normal backstab is 2500 and you dont know what buffs he had, while you didnt have songs. Share this post Link to post
Arcanum 312 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 i will just leave this here: https://eu.4gameforum.com/threads/566669/ Land rate Skill Attack from the back Frontal attack Attack from the back Attack from the back STR 40 DEX 30 STR 40 DEX 30 STR 52 DEX 30 STR 40 DEX 42 Back Blow 72,50% 00,00% 71,75% 82,25% Mortal Blow 49,50% 35,75% 51,00% 53,75% Deadly Blow 55,00% 44,25% 54,00% 64,75% i heard true ninjas go for +12 dex and doom light set, but it might be just a rumor. Share this post Link to post
BlackJack 574 Report post Posted November 2, 2017 52 minutes ago, Reaper said: Since it was 1 shot as you said, it doesnt matter if you had TP on or not, since TP is counted after you get dmg = the shot you would die w/o TP wont be divided to summon and you get full dmg of blow, so the dagger needed only 5k BS (which if you think is 2500 normal BS, which isnt certainly that much to be honest) You are correct, never had I before gotten oneshot before, even with 12k FC's so it was surprising to say the least. Share this post Link to post
skumbre 19 Report post Posted November 2, 2017 Want to crit backstabs more go for + str .want to land more go for + dex Share this post Link to post
Rip 697 Report post Posted November 2, 2017 8 hours ago, BlackJack said: You are correct, never had I before gotten oneshot before, even with 12k FC's so it was surprising to say the least. What a beautiful stylistic inversion Share this post Link to post
Anytime 556 Report post Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) I find the omission of the trigger really sad. Not because the trigger is missing in the pvp or something. it's just that it is sometimes very boring to do almost exclusively auto hits in the pve. As with all other melee classes, the skills are very expensive. And unfortunately it is in the nature of the dagger that many blows go wrong. it doesn't really make the dagger weaker - but unfortunately it's a lot more boring in the pve ... Edited November 2, 2017 by Anytime Share this post Link to post
ProGressive 740 Report post Posted November 2, 2017 7 hours ago, Anytime said: I find the omission of the trigger really sad. Not because the trigger is missing in the pvp or something. it's just that it is sometimes very boring to do almost exclusively auto hits in the pve. As with all other melee classes, the skills are very expensive. And unfortunately it is in the nature of the dagger that many blows go wrong. it doesn't really make the dagger weaker - but unfortunately it's a lot more boring in the pve ... Dont speak if u dont know a sh1t about dagger plz. 1 1 Share this post Link to post
Rizos 1487 Report post Posted November 2, 2017 7 hours ago, Anytime said: I find the omission of the trigger really sad. Not because the trigger is missing in the pvp or something. it's just that it is sometimes very boring to do almost exclusively auto hits in the pve. As with all other melee classes, the skills are very expensive. And unfortunately it is in the nature of the dagger that many blows go wrong. it doesn't really make the dagger weaker - but unfortunately it's a lot more boring in the pve ... Noob who reroled 76 PR to dagger and always on loop macro dares to speak. Get a clue noob german. 1 1 Share this post Link to post
Pandemic 6 Report post Posted November 2, 2017 18 hours ago, BlackJack said: i am 77 necro and got onehit by a dagger full buffs / no songs 1v1. My total hp is 9800 with pain transfer. Daggers are fine. They are just not stupid op like on older chronicles and require brain to play/use. video or didnt happened. Share this post Link to post
BlackJack 574 Report post Posted November 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Pandemic said: video or didnt happened. dotn have but u can pm enzo in-game he is the one that oneshot me. Share this post Link to post
Anytime 556 Report post Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) 14 hours ago, BlackJack said: dotn have but u can pm enzo in-game he is the one that oneshot me. i also wanna see that - cauz that sounds very strange! Cauz i NEVER saw that high dmg from any dagger on our server! Edited November 3, 2017 by Anytime Share this post Link to post
BlackJack 574 Report post Posted November 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, Anytime said: i also wanna see that - cauz that sounds very strange! Cauz i NEVER saw that high dmg from any dagger on our server! Come to think of it neither have I that's why i was surprised to say at the very least. Share this post Link to post
Piecat 10 Report post Posted November 3, 2017 2 hours ago, BlackJack said: Come to think of it neither have I that's why i was surprised to say at the very least. I did 3.2k Backstab to a SR in Plated Leather, effectivelly one-shotting him with my AW. We were both around 48~ lvl. I had Hex on him, and I was buffed crit dance and Death Whisper. But that's perfect conditions. You could one-shot stuff if you critted on your Backstab, fully-buffed. Share this post Link to post