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sadly but Orfen is now bullsht. Its boosted as hell if we talk about mana regen. Top orfen on any meele dd is infinite mana. DD with orfen starting with 200 mana, he hit on train, and ends up with 100% mana on him. Rechargers are not need anymore in party. Skills instead of consuming mana they re recharging mana.

1) Cloak of Light and Cloak of Darkness. Add cloaks to all of the castlesRemove stats2) Daily reward system. Items not tradableOnly consumables as a reward and nothing more. Not enchants not anything else3) Macro icon showing the skill icon instead. I don't even understand why this thing is debatable. I don't really care how an icon will look. Nevertheless i prefer it as it is4) PVP zone events. That would be nice i guess but not very often. 1-2 times per monthThe rewards must be very specific and not spam pickup for everyone lots of things...5) CP Potions on grocery. NO NO NO NO NO NO

1) I like cloaks but not make them have op stats. 2) good idea , maybe with points you can buy some buff scrolls for easier solo xp 3)i think some people dont want to show their skillbars , i think its okay like it is now. no big change though 4) i dont know what to say about it, im neutral. 5)no cp pots for the reasons everyone above explained already. This update sounds amazing , it rly got me excited and good thing you dont follow this korea classic stuff! Continue the good work guys!

​thats why its called classic club 2.0 update and not L2 classic korean/russian official update. We never said we would follow exactly same updates.

Now the stuff open to discussion that we want to hear your opinion about and see the reactions to understand if we should add them or not.   1) Cloak of Light and Cloak of Darkness.   This was added for castle lords of giran and aden. We do not understand why only for this 2 castles and if we add them it will be for all castles. Basiclly the clan who owns a castle can get this cloaks from castle to use them. Cloaks has some small stats (max cp/hp/mp. some defense stats and reflect dmg) but we are more worried about the visual part since it might look more "flashy" then what we like to see.   2) Daily reward system.   We were thinking about some kind of daily reward system when player every day when he logs (with 24h interval ofc) can claim some box containing some sort of consumables such as soulshots or even some special coins they can use later to buy some consumables or something around this. Nothing too big but a little something to keep ppl more interested on logging everyday. All these items would be not tradable ofc to avoid ppl logging over 9000 chars and get everything on main char.   3) Macro icon showing the skill icon instead. NCSoft made some changes on macros icons and this one might be interesting or not depending on how ppl sees it. So basically the idea is when you have a macro lets say /useskillforce Tribunal, instead of it showing the normal macro icon, it will show the skill icon but still work as a macro. This will not work if theres many skills on the macro but if theres only 1 skill or few skills it should show the first skill on the macro. We think it might be a coolish feature, not sure if totally necessary and some ppl might prefer to thave their stuff hidden when making videos and such so lets us know what u think about.   4) PVP zone events. So... NCSoft made in this update some kind of pvp zone events which are quite confusing and unappealing and happen on Tuesdays (oO). It got us thinking. On something similar but with different dates and different ways to work. What we have in mind would be something like on the weekend when theres no siege, a zone like TOI or LOA would become a PVP zone for couple of hours, and special monsters would spawn instead or a special boss with good drops so ppl would be able to finght for it like on siege, but instead of fighting for the castle they would be fighting to assure the boss/monsters control and later the boss/monsters loot.   5) CP Potions on grocery.   On offical CP Potions were added to grocery shop. We dont rly know what to do with it. Tho its a good idea to remove some money from game and it also opens possibility that everyone will have access to them, we are not sure if we want to add them or not. Theres a couple of good points of having this: Everyone would have access to them so pvps would prolly last a little longer.They are heavy so no one would have big advantage out of this just by having lot of money cuz either way they wont be able to carry many of them in most of classes.By natural stats fighter classes will be able to carry some more then mages giving then the chance to have some extra tankiness while getting in the fight.It will help removing some adena from game.etc...  So this are the 5 main points open for discussion. Please let us know what you think about them so we can know if to ignore them completely, use them, or just make poll about it. Feel free to comment about the rest of the update features also.

​pretty much like old vampiric rage, 1 aoe hit and u went from 1 HP to 5k dunno how it works, but on official its pretty big bullsh1t (and yes, i know u need like 4 orfens to make 1 top orfen earring, but still, that sh1t is op)

yes, i guess nobody will watch it whole day, but from my own experience ppl check it from time to time, asking some questions about server and they decide to give it a try, so it might bring some new ppl ^^

​I don't really think so mate. It's blind way imo... Newbies are already receiving free NG stuff. They level up faster (with free buffs even much faster) and then hitting 20lvl they simply got problem with D grades.... You want to gave them free D stuff so again they will get some exp boos until 40lvl and then what? Free C grades and buffs? You're proposing to give ppl fishes when they really need to learn how to fish by them self s We (who plays here from very beginning) were running with crappy gear without using shots and we survived somehow. Ppl who decides to play Classic should be aware what they are stepping into and play the game without free stuff, buffs and cookies All what need to be done imo is to bring more players to this great server (yes I'm ass kisser a bit ), find the way to erase PK scrolls and fix couple of things which annoys existing gamers already