NWD 132 Report post Posted December 27, 2017 Compare BOP +0 (400 p atk) vs emi +7 (411 p atk) - character has higher p atk with BOP. Is this becouse of expertise B gr gives bigger boost or is it bug? Anyway C grade has shot bonus so in the end i guess its still pretty evens. If all this is correct mb some good guy has a comparison table or something? if you enchant bop every p atk value of bop gives more than p atk of emi? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
chevignon 153 Report post Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) actually i would say, that the enchant bonus have a wrong calculation but we have better players here with bigger knowledge about those game mechanics Edited December 28, 2017 by chevignon Quote Share this post Link to post
NWD 132 Report post Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) any pro gamer or admin can explain this to me? Edited December 29, 2017 by NWD Quote Share this post Link to post
V4siukas 58 Report post Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) ... Edited December 29, 2017 by V4siukas Quote Share this post Link to post
Kure 444 Report post Posted December 29, 2017 Not bug i think. Alrdy discussed here in a past on example of oe arthro nail/ belion cestus.. Its somehow different formula of adding/multiplying or w/e in case of enchants, cant remember exactly. Use search if you want. P.S. maybe thats one of the reasons of implementing 0.3% bonus dmg for each +1? Dunno rly, nobody could possibly understand those crazy korean devs... Quote Share this post Link to post
NWD 132 Report post Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) I tested in long autoattack and the emi damage output was lower. in this topic no conclusion was made, only something about shot damage and enchant bonus of low vs top tier weaps: Can anyone get info from official? Or mb admins can tell something about this? it is kinda important what gun to pick then if BOP +3 gives dmg as emi +10 and if +4bop gives as emi+12 etc etc @San0 @Koll If this is a bug - maybe only visible value on weapon description was changed on 2.0 but not actual p atk it gives? when enchant gave +7 (+14 from +4) on 1.5 Edited December 29, 2017 by NWD Quote Share this post Link to post
San0 2413 Report post Posted December 29, 2017 the p attack bonus they get from enchant should be the same for same types of weapon. not sure if there should be some diference on the grade of weapon it self, there should be if weapon is top or mid or low, but in this case both are top so cant be sure, need to check it out see if something like this exist or if its some other problm. maybe it doesnt and thats why bonus were added to the grades lower then b and not after b. not sure. Quote Share this post Link to post
NWD 132 Report post Posted December 29, 2017 I think best would be to get info from official. If its same there, no need to dig deep, just live with it. If its not, then its another story... Quote Share this post Link to post
Poseidon 452 Report post Posted December 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, NWD said: I think best would be to get info from official. If its same there, no need to dig deep, just live with it. If its not, then its another story... do you have info from official? Quote Share this post Link to post
NWD 132 Report post Posted December 29, 2017 Just now, Poseidon said: do you have info from official? no, thats why I ask if anyone could provide it Quote Share this post Link to post
Rizos 1487 Report post Posted December 30, 2017 No adena to make test on offi Quote Share this post Link to post
RussianHooligan 3 Report post Posted December 30, 2017 Info from RU official server. When weapon C grade+++ and B grade have same p.atk/m.atk then p.atk/m.atk in Character Status will be same. But OE weapon giving pure damage (some percentage from shots). Tested on Tyr/Gladi, because they have constant damage from skills which use focus. Sorry for my english 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
NWD 132 Report post Posted December 30, 2017 So that means we have a problem. Can it be that enchant bonus for C grade was not changed in calculation of character p atk when it should be boosted on 2.0? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
FryderykChopin 853 Report post Posted December 31, 2017 On 30. 12. 2017 at 1:01 PM, RussianHooligan said: Info from RU official server. When weapon C grade+++ and B grade have same p.atk/m.atk then p.atk/m.atk in Character Status will be same. But OE weapon giving pure damage (some percentage from shots). Tested on Tyr/Gladi, because they have constant damage from skills which use focus. Sorry for my english It's funny that we have so many ++weps on the server and still it took so long for someone to figure out they don't give as much damage as they should Also obligatory "if only we had beta rewards" argument. Quote Share this post Link to post
NWD 132 Report post Posted January 1, 2018 2084 -> 2125 (+41) +16patk EMI 2122 -> 2183 (+61) +24patk BOP So it seems only base p atk of emi is lower, enchanting further gives same boost for bop and emi Shoud have tested with +2 bop to have same amounts but i cant deenchant Quote Share this post Link to post
SOiL 342 Report post Posted January 1, 2018 BOP is more cool than emi Quote Share this post Link to post
Meskita 42 Report post Posted January 12, 2018 Thats only for bows or happen the same on other weapons? Quote Share this post Link to post
FryderykChopin 853 Report post Posted January 12, 2018 On 2. 1. 2018 at 10:05 PM, NWD said: bump Oh man someone got literally wrecked :^) Quote Share this post Link to post
NWD 132 Report post Posted January 12, 2018 hahaha ye it looks like that Quote Share this post Link to post
NWD 132 Report post Posted January 12, 2018 Make emi great again!!! Quote Share this post Link to post
GrandCrusade 9 Report post Posted January 18, 2018 Will there be any changes on this issue ?, I'm concerned about this issue, I'm thinking about selling +10 C grade to buy a BoP, but I do not want to make a mistake Quote Share this post Link to post
FryderykChopin 853 Report post Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, GrandCrusade said: Will there be any changes on this issue ?, I'm concerned about this issue, I'm thinking about selling +10 C grade to buy a BoP, but I do not want to make a mistake It certainly is a bug, I would definitely wait if I was you. Quote Share this post Link to post