W4N4L1 5 Report post Posted January 27, 2018 Hello Can anybody help me and give advice for best setup for tyrant PVP? I mean what rune i should use, what armor, dyes. How many fists good to have it? Armor - Fists - Dyes - Thanks for answers Quote Share this post Link to post
DanKolov 20 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 i can tell u my setup Armor - BW Heavy Fist - Belion Cestus + othell /Tyr Dyes - Str 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
paqs 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2018 Why Hvy you have passive for light? Quote Share this post Link to post
BlackJack 574 Report post Posted January 30, 2018 cuze light armor sucks dick on classic. Quote Share this post Link to post
Anytime 556 Report post Posted January 30, 2018 Fists you can find here: 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Sarek 3 Report post Posted January 30, 2018 36 minutes ago, BlackJack said: cuze light armor sucks dick on classic. can you develop? Quote Share this post Link to post
BlackJack 574 Report post Posted January 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Sarek said: can you develop? Classic uses GOD stats system mainly, so evasion is much less effective, thus people dont use light armor. in 2,5 some of the sets get bonus changes to compensate that some of the light sets might see more use. For now they are mostly for summoners and for EE/BP/SE who switch to light set after spending 20-30% mana for the extra armor. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Rizos 1487 Report post Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) There is huge plus of light armor on classic 2.0. If u learn passives u have almost same p def as in bw hvy but you have passive -35% chance to receive critical hit from enemy. This is huge in era of othel rune, but for classes who spam skills like gladis this passive doesnt help. Problem is there is no cool B grade light set for tyrant (u need speed/str/patk/atk speed) most of these stats u get from BW hvy, B lights have sh1t bonuses Q_Q. Edited January 30, 2018 by Rizos Quote Share this post Link to post
Sarek 3 Report post Posted January 30, 2018 And what about the doom light ? u get patk and dex (so speed and atk speed) Not efficient as the bw hvy ? Quote Share this post Link to post
BlackJack 574 Report post Posted January 30, 2018 Just now, Sarek said: And what about the doom light ? u get patk and dex (so speed and atk speed) Not efficient as the bw hvy ? As I already mentioned stats in classic are based on god++ chronicles, so dex doesn't affect speed. Also a lot of those classes spam skills like Rizo said, so the bonus is less relevant vs them. The passive bonus stats you get from BW heavy currently just outweighs anything else. Quote Share this post Link to post
Rizos 1487 Report post Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Sarek said: And what about the doom light ? u get patk and dex (so speed and atk speed) Not efficient as the bw hvy ? Dex is not what u want on tyrant. Also doom is - str. Dex doesnt give speed on classic anymore. Tyrant had pasive agile movement in past (+10 speed when using light) if he had this on classic i would recomend u light set but dunno why ncsoft decided to delete this pasive. BW hvy > doom light: - U dont waste sp for light armor mastery - 4 more str - +7 speed - like 50 more p def Doom light>BW hvy: - like 2% more atk speed, 2 or 3 crit rate - passive -35% chance to receive critical hit Edited January 30, 2018 by Rizos Quote Share this post Link to post
BlackJack 574 Report post Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Rizos said: Dex is not what u want on tyrant. Also doom is - str. Dex doesnt give speed on classic anymore. Tyrant had pasive agile movement in past (+10 speed when using light) if he had this on classic i would recomend u light set but dunno why ncsoft decided to delete this pasive. BW hvy > doom light: - U dont waste sp for light armor mastery - 4 more str - +7 speed - like 50 more p def Doom light>BW hvy: - like 2% more atk speed, 2 or 3 crit rate - passive -35% chance to receive critical hit to add to what rizo said, doom light is probably dirt chip as it was before, the problem is that you will lack SP to learn both masteries, so it's better to wait and get the extra adena for BW heavy. So don't get fooled by the price if you are new. Edited January 30, 2018 by BlackJack Quote Share this post Link to post
Sarek 3 Report post Posted January 30, 2018 Thanks for all the precision, indeed I'm not in the know of the stat working on classic (some weird choice imho ...). I will read more about this on the wiki/internet. Sorry for my misconceptions. Quote Share this post Link to post
Rizos 1487 Report post Posted January 30, 2018 I like BW hvy and BW light. They are +/- same in terms of p def. Light will give u a bit more defence than hvy cos of these crits and 3% m def. Hvy is more offensive, u get more p atk and more speed. I recomend BW hvy especially for pve, light is situational pvp set Quote Share this post Link to post
ProGressive 740 Report post Posted January 30, 2018 I dont play tyrant but if u want to be OP in pvp with skills go tyr rune atk speed. Othell is 0 if u cant zealot. Quote Share this post Link to post
BizQQuiT 351 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 On 1/30/2018 at 10:29 AM, Sarek said: Thanks for all the precision, indeed I'm not in the know of the stat working on classic (some weird choice imho ...). I will read more about this on the wiki/internet. Sorry for my misconceptions. dont go wiki/internet you got all the right answers above, you won't find better brains anywhere else On 1/30/2018 at 1:34 PM, ProGressive said: I dont play tyrant but if u want to be OP in pvp with skills go tyr rune atk speed. Othell is 0 if u cant zealot. i hope all tyrants with war tag use tyr please Quote Share this post Link to post
ProGressive 740 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 2 hours ago, BizQQuiT said: dont go wiki/internet you got all the right answers above, you won't find better brains anywhere else i hope all tyrants with war tag use tyr please Well he needs both biz. But if he can afford one and goes only Oly better is tyr. Quote Share this post Link to post
MoDoy 1772 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 3 hours ago, ProGressive said: Well he needs both biz. But if he can afford one and goes only Oly better is tyr. why not yul? yul is best rune for every class Quote Share this post Link to post
Wiewi0r 1 Report post Posted June 29, 2018 for PVE only . BW hvy 0 or plated leather +6 ? evasion and mdef incrased when up to +6 ,and chance to get crit -35% . Quote Share this post Link to post
Rizos 1487 Report post Posted June 29, 2018 for pve BW. In PvE chance to get crit bonus is useless and PL has much less p def than BW even if pl is +6. Evasion is too low on tyrant to rely on it. Quote Share this post Link to post
Meskita 42 Report post Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Rizos said: for pve BW. In PvE chance to get crit bonus is useless and PL has much less p def than BW even if pl is +6. Evasion is too low on tyrant to rely on it. for solo in toi 10 i had better results with light Edit: only with wc for support Edited June 29, 2018 by Meskita Quote Share this post Link to post
Rizos 1487 Report post Posted June 29, 2018 bw light vs bw hvy ok. but not bw hvy vs pl light ? Quote Share this post Link to post
Rip 697 Report post Posted June 30, 2018 6 hours ago, Rizos said: bw light vs bw hvy ok. but not bw hvy vs pl light ? What about avadon light? You can carry more shots 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
JerrySM 329 Report post Posted June 30, 2018 (edited) Topic :January 27 Now: July 1 5 months passed: @W4N4L1 ??? plz share us ur experience Edited June 30, 2018 by JerrySM Quote Share this post Link to post