cov vs pof

[NWD 132]

why pof sux so hard compared to cov? 

 

 

 

[zadkiel 8]

Cause prophet also has Zerg, b. Body b. Soul etc. etc. If pow was like cov then it would be a really op class.

Edited November 13, 2018 by zadkiel

[Rip 697]

Debuff resistance ftw

[Anytime 556]

POF not so bad ...

Edited November 13, 2018 by Anytime

[BlackJack 574]

They have different uses, POF is decent.

[NWD 132]

i agree is not bad generally but compared to cov it sux. What is better - 10% p def vs crit rate and crit damage 15% and 5% more atk speed 10% cast speed? probably thats the reason pp vs wc 76+ ratio 1:30

37 minutes ago, zadkiel said:

Cause prophet also has Zerg, b. Body b. Soul etc. etc. If pow was like cov then it would be a really op class.

and wc have vamp and buff all party same time

[BlackJack 574]

6 minutes ago, NWD said:

i agree is not bad generally but compared to cov it sux. What is better - 10% p def vs crit rate and crit damage 15% and 5% more atk speed 10% cast speed? probably thats the reason pp vs wc 76+ ratio 1:30

and wc have vamp and buff all party same time

and one is human and one is orc, we can go and do random comparisons forever, they are 2 classes that serve different purpose.

[NWD 132]

1 minute ago, BlackJack said:

and one is human and one is orc, we can go and do random comparisons forever, they are 2 classes that serve different purpose.

tell me what main different purposes they have

[Rizos 1487]

Pof defensive buff with more p def, more hp, debuf resist, - perfect for tank/bard or healer who prefer def and debuf resist over c speed, cov offensive buff with crit dmg crit rate p atk m atk cast speed atk speed

PP is smth similar to SE - secondary healer. It can buff these missing stuff to pt but in general in full pt you gonna use OL/WC as main buffers and pp just gives whats missing. PP has decent heal, same rez like SE, it has 3 awesome things - block shield and block windwalk and mistic immunity which is like hero zerk that doesnt lower your defences. PP

Edited November 13, 2018 by Rizos

[NWD 132]

5 minutes ago, Rizos said:

Pof defensive buff with more p def, more hp - perfect for tank/bard or healer who prefer def and debuf resist over c speed, debuf resist, cov offensive buff with crit dmg crit rate p atk m atk cast speed atk speed

 

ok thats nice theory, how many times it is used in real situations?

[YipMan 319]

3 minutes ago, NWD said:

ok thats nice theory, how many times it is used in real situations?

I take PoF on supports / tanks every single time in every single PvP situation....

[Rizos 1487]

30 minutes ago, NWD said:

ok thats nice theory, how many times it is used in real situations?

Never cos almost nobody has POF pp box cos its 31 tablets ;). My CP was using PoWater on supports which is basicaly worse than PoF. If we had PoF, we would use PoF

Edited November 13, 2018 by Rizos

[MoDoy 1772]

and then people cry why debuffs land rates are "100%" when they want to go full glass cannon on every class

[NWD 132]

ok then, lesson learned, ty

[NWD 132]

Anyone know where can  I see/read about actual resistance base numbers and mechanics? pof gives 10%, chant of spirit +20, how it scales etc

[BlackJack 574]

2 hours ago, NWD said:

Anyone know where can  I see/read about actual resistance base numbers and mechanics? pof gives 10%, chant of spirit +20, how it scales etc

on the 4game forum in the section experimentarium, they copy paste the tests the russians do in this thread: https://4gameforum.com/forums/1416/ , even if u dont understand ruski, you can use google translate and the pictures are enough.

Edited November 13, 2018 by BlackJack

[Duvs 40]

VoP better ur Cov+ pov)

[FryderykChopin 853]

All prophecies have their purpose:

CoV is best because WC won the NCsoft's random buff/nerf jackpot

PoF is good if you need that extra p.def

PoWi is good for fighter types

PoWa is good if you accidentaly made EE because you hate yourself, and also your entire CP has all 3rd skills learned and you're absolutely positive you don't have any other purpose for the tabletki. CoV: +15% m.atk, PoWa: +10% m.atk, why? Becauase f*** us that's why.

Edited November 13, 2018 by FryderykChopin

[l2cplayer 1]

	CoV	PoFire	PoWater	PoWind
Group Buff	Yes	No	No	No
HP Recover	20%	10%	-	-
MP Recover	20%	-	10%	-
P Accuracy	4	-	-	3
M Accuracy	4	-	-	-
P Evasion	4	-	-	3
M Evasion	4	-	-	-
P Attack	15%	10%	-	-
M Attack	15%	-	10%	-
Atk Speed	10%	5%	-	-
Cast Speed	10%	-	5%	-
P Crit Rate	15%	-	-	10%
M Crit Rate	15%	-	-	-
P Crit Dmg	15%	-	-	10%
M Crit Dmg	15%	-	-	-
Max HP	-	10%	-	-
P Defence	-	10%	-	-
Debuff Resist	-	10%	10%	10
M Defence	-	-	10%	-
Run Speed	-	-	-	10
Conclusion	Uber	Fine (pt w/o WC)	Sucks (just remove the skill plz)	Sucks (just remove the skill plz)

 

Why are u even "try" to compare CoV with other PoX buffs?

[Ovid 17]

On 10/8/2021 at 8:23 PM, l2cplayer said:

	CoV	PoFire	PoWater	PoWind
Group Buff	Yes	No	No	No
HP Recover	20%	10%	-	-
MP Recover	20%	-	10%	-
P Accuracy	4	-	-	3
M Accuracy	4	-	-	-
P Evasion	4	-	-	3
M Evasion	4	-	-	-
P Attack	15%	10%	-	-
M Attack	15%	-	10%	-
Atk Speed	10%	5%	-	-
Cast Speed	10%	-	5%	-
P Crit Rate	15%	-	-	10%
M Crit Rate	15%	-	-	-
P Crit Dmg	15%	-	-	10%
M Crit Dmg	15%	-	-	-
Max HP	-	10%	-	-
P Defence	-	10%	-	-
Debuff Resist	-	10%	10%	10
M Defence	-	-	10%	-
Run Speed	-	-	-	10
Conclusion	Uber	Fine (pt w/o WC)	Sucks (just remove the skill plz)	Sucks (just remove the skill plz)

 

Why are u even "try" to compare CoV with other PoX buffs?

You'd think that CoV, being a group buff, gave less offensive/defensive benefits than the single target Prophecies. 

Indeed PoWI is just...why? They should have kept these buffs like they were in HI5, and maybe tweak them here and there; make them shine in one particular situation, but in the same time to give other benefits (lower ones, but noticeable). 

Prophecy of Wind
For 5 minutes, Max HP by 20%, Critical Rate by 20%, magic damage by 20%, P. Atk. by 10%, P. Def. by 20%, Atk. Spd. by 20%, M. Atk. by 20%, M. Def. by 20%, Casting Spd. by 20%, and Resistance to de-buff by 10%. Decreases Speed by 20%. Bestows the ability to recover as HP 5% of the standard melee damage inflicted on the enemy. Consumes 10 Spirit Ore.

Prophecy of Water
For 5 minutes, M. Crit by 2, MP Recovery Bonus by 20%, P. Atk. by 10%, P. Def. by 20%, Atk. Spd. by 20%, M. Atk. by 20%, M. Def. by 20%, Casting Spd. by 20%, and Resistance to de-buffs by 10%. Decreases Speed by 20% and MP consumption for skill use by 5%. Consumes 10 Spirit Ore.

Prophecy of Fire
For 5 minutes, Max MP by 20%, HP Recovery Bonus by 20%, magic damage by 2, Critical Damages by 20%, P. Atk. by 10%, P. Def. by 20%, Atk. Spd. by 20%, M. Atk. by 20%, M. Def. by 20%, Casting Spd. by 20%, and Resistance to de-buffs by 10%. Decreases Speed by 20%. Consumes 10 Spirit Ore.

Chant of Victory
Recovers all party members' HP by 20%, and for 5 minutes, receives help from a great spirit to increase Max HP by 20%, magic damage Critical Damage by 2, Critical Damage by 20%, P. Atk. by 10%, P. Def. by 20%, Atk. Spd. by 20%, M. Atk. by 20%, M. Def. by 20%, Casting Spd. by 20%, Resistance to de-buffs by 10%, and Accuracy by 4. Decreases Speed by 20%. Consumes 40 Spirit Ore.

Victory of Pa'agrio
For 5 minutes, Max CP by 20%, CP recovery bonus by 20%, Max MP by 20%, Critical Rate by 20%, the power of Prominent Damage through magic damage by 20%, P. Atk. by 10%, P. Def. by 20%, Atk. Spd. by 20%, M. Atk. by 20%, M. Def. by 20%, Casting Spd. by 20%, and Resistance to de-buff by 10%. Decreases Speed by 20%. Consumes 40 Spirit Ore.

Edited November 21, 2021 by Ovid