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In my opinion this could be the perfect compromise to make this class a little bit more appealing without imbalancing the macroclass comparison and I will tell you why. According to what we know about tanks we should consider some main aspects other than Aggression, Ultimate Defense and Chain strike. Let's see how Eva's Templar compare with other 3 tanks 1 attack/debuff skills 2 aid/buff skills 3 Ultimate/Endgame skills Let's analyze only skills they don't share with other tanks or they partially share: 1 Tribunal, Entangle, Arrest Tribunal is probably the only way TK can actually deal some damage while giving a rather fair debuff, useful against high dps melee enemies. This skill is the parallel version of PK's Judgment which at the same damage output, is useful against the same kind of enemy. DA/PAL have instead Shield strike which gives no debuff but has an higher overall damage output and faster casting (1,58 seconds against 1,8 same cooldown) Entangle is in my opinion a pretty good debuff against any kind of enemy. Same effect of DA's Hamstring just a bit slower casting but same cooldown. Useful sometimes in PVE too if you consider how fast TK is. This will give TK the best kiting result with the least effort. Arrest is shared only with BD and SWS. This single target hold is actually pretty good when chasing an enemy since TK may have the best overall speed. Still a good skill to make a save when things go down fast. PAL has Mass Shackling which gives the same effect but AOE instead of single target (having a very slow cooldown) 2 Guard stance, Cubics, Aegis Guard stance is the skill you don't want to underestimate when it comes tanking. This should always be on as it pretty much compare with DA/PAL Majesty. Its effect combined with Shield Mastery passive + Shield Fortress and Aegis + shield buffs we all know from supports, can make TK the best shield user of all tanks. Cubics provide good stability as they cast aggro, hold, heal and sometimes a bit of damage. Overall defensive compared with PK's cubics, empowering the defensive status of TK. Aegis (read guard stance) 3 Touch of Life, Eva's Protection Touch of Life is one of the ultimate defensive skills which can give a great help in pvp to protect a DD or your healer. It can be used as an emergency heal. It doesn't compare well if you consider the damage of Touch of Death. PAL may benefit a bit more from this skill when you think about its other abilities. Eva's Protection will give a great boost to pdef, mdef and speed of the entire party. Compared with Shield of sacrifice, it gives less defence but has no cost in terms of HP. The speed boost is actually pretty awesome imo. Now if look at what Temple Knight is missing, we will see that he doesn't have major debuffs like Fear/Paralyze, major weakening skills like PK dot ones or major aid skills like Sacrifice. Giving Temple Knight a stun that doesn't deal damage but cancels enemy target, may actually bring him a little bit up in the comparison chart while also diversifying him from the classic Shield Stun user. TL;DR Temple knight may reveal to be the best kiter and shield user while also being the fastest tank. Giving it the old version of Shield Bash will make it more viable and enjoyable without breaking the game.

to be fair, i think it would be interesting idea this kind of stuff for admins to consider ( @San0 , @Koll), i think you already know the next updates are getting weirder and weirder and you implied yourself that eventually we will stop following patch notes as they are also i think you got your lesson about "BIG" updates and rather will follow the path of small patches more frequently (lets say every 3 months adding some stuff to game?) why not add something like this in those patches, giving some balancing stuff for underdog classes which would be implemented in later chronicles now, that they might be a little more available? (for example PR is only way to go right now, so why not in next small patch give the boost from 7signs/secret of empire to HE and SR with being able to move on snipe and increasing range when you use rapid fire for SR), i think that could be neat idea how to keep game fresh as there is chance we might encounter different kind of classes more often and it wouldnt have much of this "custom" feeling because that kind of stuff is actually on official

So,as we all know,pretty much everyone shits on temple knights in general,because they lack any hard CC besides root (yay we have arrest now!),though,the three other tanks have stuns (DA/pal) or para (SK),so my proposal is,to add Shield Bash to TK as a custom feature,pretty much similar way we had buff summons,instead of waiting 2-3 years from now when Antharas patch hits. Show some love for the elf tanks :(

there is no point comparing valeera with any other tk , he had tol vengeance when we were still gatering tablets to get cov to all cp's in aly, dunno if set bw +8 but he had few parts +8 for sure core orfen aq, dunno if his but he had them in oly all this when there were verry few farmers in oly with 3 rd skills and less wih 3 epics on them. his gear on any other class would make that char oly farmer

you would be surprised how often you would find yourself out of mana fighting a proper TK and you wouldn't be the first getting shat on.

Voted yes... It's not going to make it viable but it's going to make TK's lifes less miserable which I believe was the OP's point. So yes. Sad truth is though that TK is not even the most neglected char right now... For visualization I've made this table comparing BP/SE/EE: +----------------+--------------------------------------------+----------------------------------------+------------------------+ | | Bishop | Shilen Elder | Elven Elder | +----------------+--------------------------------------------+----------------------------------------+------------------------+ | most important | - Incredible healing power with Chain Heal | - Stigma | - Can reroll to Bishop | | features | - Limitless CC removal power with Cleanse | - Very solid buff list | | | | - Greater Battle Heal | - Dryad is very useful in PvP | | | | - Balance Life | - PoWi is situationally as good as CoV | | | | - Salvation | - Purify is very powerful on Classic | | +----------------+--------------------------------------------+----------------------------------------+------------------------+

can i get kitty or donkey on SK?

as MoDoy said, we are private server and following new patches is so wrong, look at NCsoft how hard they ruined l2 classic lol... We just can take few things from there and there, boost and balance some classes.It will be fun for people who are playing as Pala/sk(other classes) and it will be fun for other people fight against new classes Lets face it, we all tired of Necro's, DA's, running around, we want to see water spells, *pew pew* fire spells *pew pew* in mass pvp, we want to see paladin YOLOing in mass pvp, we want hawk running around etc. You got it. Atm it is game of orc and humans.

cough cough!!! it is not true everyone shits on TK. except from summoners and DA/SK you SHIT on anyone else and almost same goes for paladin just slightly more tricky because of not so much passive survival, just embrace your role and stop playing them as if they were SK/DA. edit a good wc is also hard.

just change class to tyrant! Can tank better anyways!

all of them kinda make sense, except, the heck happened with Rissuos, he went 360 from wimpy monk into brave viking warrior @_@

next possible event will be only somewhere at server anniversary/Halloween. no way there will be chance for event before that.