[WEIGHT IN] Class change

[FryderykChopin 853]

6 hours ago, freakout said:

Sonds better...

But i would suggest a 3rd group with dds like necro/sps/sorc/sh/tyr/destro

Nukers are f*cked this patch mate, they're the only chars that virtually never get invited into RB parties which is an oriental express to 76++, I dare to say nukers are actually slowest farmed chars on Zaken.

I vote for the san0nki's 2 group system

[ZaZaDaKiLLa 36]

7 hours ago, San0 said:

Groups:

First group classes:

Overlord
Prophet
Warcryer
Bishop
Elven Elder
Shillien Elder

Swordsinger

Bladedancer

Second group classes:

Dark Avenger (only to change from it)
Elemental Summoner (only to change from it)

Warsmith (only to change from it)
Bounty Hunter (only to change from it)
Paladin
Temple Knight

Shillien Knight

Treasure Hunter
Plainswalker
Silver Ranger
Abyss Walker
Gladiator
Warlord
Spellsinger
Sorcerer

Destroyer
Tyrant
Warlock
Phantom Summoner
Phantom Ranger
Spellhowler
Necromancer

 

Level:

AFTER THIRD CLASS

- If your character is level 79 and higher - it's level will be dropped to level 78 and 100%

- If your character is under level 79, experience won't be changed

- New class will come with 3rd Class quest complete.

Example 1 - You are a Spectral Dancer 79 and you want to change to Soultaker. After Class change you will get Soultaker level 78 100%

Example 2 - You are a Spectral Dancer 77 15%, and you want to change to Soultaker. After Class change you will get Soultaker level 77 15%

Skills:

- Books for 3rd class skills are not being restored

- Divine inspirations are restored

Penalties:

If char was on oly, it can't change class during that cycle

 

 

 

THIS BETTER?

I am sorry i see just 30 classes in this list where is 31 Hawkeye??

[Donkihot 114]

37 minutes ago, PaLaZ said:

So if farm like a turtle with a Paladin, i can switch my PR to a Paladin

Nice retails norms ??

it will take u the same time to lvl as pr or pala to lvl 76, because u wont go solo level  in BS or EV or anywhere else, u will go afk fishing and checking if any rb's are up and then go 21.00 rb fiesta to farm rb's everyday.

[IamNoob 0]

why change now? Leave it the way everyone is used to. Or are you aiming for the profit that this change can make.

[freakout 17]

15 minutes ago, FryderykChopin said:

Nukers are f*cked this patch mate, they're the only chars that virtually never get invited into RB parties which is an oriental express to 76++, I dare to say nukers are actually slowest farmed chars on Zaken.

I vote for the san0nki's 2 group system

good point...

[Koll 1233]

1 hour ago, IamNoob said:

why change now? Leave it the way everyone is used to. Or are you aiming for the profit that this change can make.

It's already passed more then 2 years after we aplied old change in class change. More people are higher then 78 today. Thats why we created this topic, to see if players need this chance and to see other people oppinions.

[IamNoob 0]

16 minutes ago, Koll said:

It's already passed more then 2 years after we aplied old change in class change. More people are higher then 78 today. Thats why we created this topic, to see if players need this chance and to see other people oppinions.

Just let it be. Just change the level rule. Example: It's level 79, changing class, new class 78

[Cyane 230]

I agree more with the 3 group class that kse posted in the beginning. I care about sph necro> sorc sps (unless we add them at least btm soon, antharas patch feature), and tyr and destro > gladi. Also i dont agree that tanks, specially tk and pala, have the same chances of tyr. Partys usally need only 1 tank, meaning that once it is filled, they ll fill rest of slots with dds, not pala, tk. Or even if they had same chances, tk and pala solo farming is way slower than tyr and destro, pr or summoners

In the other hand, i asked in my clan and they agree with 2 group system, its more flexible, usefull (but less fair imo)

Edited November 8, 2019 by Cyane

[KaraS 0]

Just fix a little bit.. If too much..  It will be Chaos.

First group classes:

Overlord
Prophet
Warcryer
Bishop
Elven Elder
Shillien Elder

 

Second group classes:

 

Warsmith (only to change from it)
Bounty Hunter (only to change from it)
Swordsinger
Bladedancer
 Paladin
Temple Knight


Third group classes:
 

Shillien Knight
Dark Avenger (only to change from it)
Treasure Hunter
Plainswalker
Silver Ranger
Abyss Walker
Gladiator
Warlord
Spellsinger
Sorcerer

 

Fourth group classes:

Destroyer
Tyrant
Warlock
Phantom Summoner
Phantom Ranger
Elemental Summoner (only to change from it)
Spellhowler
Necromancer
 

Level:

AFTER THIRD CLASS

- If your character is level 77 and higher - it's level will be dropped to level 76 and 100%  (Do not Change) Player Should carefully choose when they create character. If they want to change for own reason. They should swallow disadvantage. 

- New class will come with 3rd Class quest complete.

Skills:

- Books for 3rd class skills are not being restored

- Divine inspirations are restored

Penalties:

If char was on oly, it can't change class during that cycle

 If you are Destroyer, you can change class for classes only within 4th group.

Edited November 8, 2019 by KaraS

[PaLaZ 4]

3 hours ago, Donkihot said:

it will take u the same time to lvl as pr or pala to lvl 76

False. If u have time to farm, u will be farm better solo PR rather than Pala

[Naoki 3]

11 hours ago, San0 said:

Groups:

First group classes:

Overlord
Prophet
Warcryer
Bishop
Elven Elder
Shillien Elder

Swordsinger

Bladedancer

Second group classes:

Dark Avenger (only to change from it)
Elemental Summoner (only to change from it)

Warsmith (only to change from it)
Bounty Hunter (only to change from it)
Paladin
Temple Knight

Shillien Knight

Treasure Hunter
Plainswalker
Silver Ranger
Abyss Walker
Gladiator
Warlord
Spellsinger
Sorcerer

Destroyer
Tyrant
Warlock
Phantom Summoner
Phantom Ranger
Spellhowler
Necromancer

 

Level:

AFTER THIRD CLASS

- If your character is level 79 and higher - it's level will be dropped to level 78 and 100%

- If your character is under level 79, experience won't be changed

- New class will come with 3rd Class quest complete.

Example 1 - You are a Spectral Dancer 79 and you want to change to Soultaker. After Class change you will get Soultaker level 78 100%

Example 2 - You are a Spectral Dancer 77 15%, and you want to change to Soultaker. After Class change you will get Soultaker level 77 15%

Skills:

- Books for 3rd class skills are not being restored

- Divine inspirations are restored

Penalties:

If char was on oly, it can't change class during that cycle

 

 

 

THIS BETTER?

Great

[PaLaZ 4]

3 hours ago, Donkihot said:

go 21.00 rb fiesta to farm rb's everyday.

Ahá. Example: Im from China, CTZ, and its now like 3:44, and i will go to farm RB cause.. (?)
 

[San0 2423]

4 hours ago, PaLaZ said:

So if farm like a turtle with a Paladin, i can switch my PR to a Paladin

Nice retails norms ??

if you have a idea or opinion say it, otherwise just droping pointless sentences wont help anyone.

[San0 2423]

1 hour ago, KaraS said:

Just fix a little bit.. If too much..  It will be Chaos.

First group classes:

Overlord
Prophet
Warcryer
Bishop
Elven Elder
Shillien Elder

 

Second group classes:

 

Warsmith (only to change from it)
Bounty Hunter (only to change from it)
Swordsinger
Bladedancer
 Paladin
Temple Knight


Third group classes:
 

Shillien Knight
Dark Avenger (only to change from it)
Treasure Hunter
Plainswalker
Silver Ranger
Abyss Walker
Gladiator
Warlord
Spellsinger
Sorcerer

 

Fourth group classes:

Destroyer
Tyrant
Warlock
Phantom Summoner
Phantom Ranger
Elemental Summoner (only to change from it)
Spellhowler
Necromancer
 

Level:

AFTER THIRD CLASS

- If your character is level 77 and higher - it's level will be dropped to level 76 and 100%  (Do not Change) Player Should carefully choose when they create character. If they want to change for own reason. They should swallow disadvantage. 

- New class will come with 3rd Class quest complete.

Skills:

- Books for 3rd class skills are not being restored

- Divine inspirations are restored

Penalties:

If char was on oly, it can't change class during that cycle

 If you are Destroyer, you can change class for classes only within 4th group.

this is virtualy no changes from the old sistem so why is it a option ?

 

and the comment on increased size, makes me think you never rly fully read the main class change topic and you fully miss the propose of this service.

[San0 2423]

3 hours ago, IamNoob said:

why change now? Leave it the way everyone is used to. Or are you aiming for the profit that this change can make.

class change service is changed/updated after every major server update. for example when it started there was 5 diferent groups cuz it was the best option for the game how it was back then, and with time game became more forgiving and fast forward and this limitations started becoming less and less. it is needed a update now as it needed many updates during the past 4 years.

[PaLaZ 4]

1 hour ago, KaraS said:

Just fix a little bit.. If too much..  It will be Chaos.

First group classes:

Overlord
Prophet
Warcryer
Bishop
Elven Elder
Shillien Elder

 

Second group classes:

 

Warsmith (only to change from it)
Bounty Hunter (only to change from it)
Swordsinger
Bladedancer
 Paladin
Temple Knight


Third group classes:
 

Shillien Knight
Dark Avenger (only to change from it)
Treasure Hunter
Plainswalker
Silver Ranger
Abyss Walker
Gladiator
Warlord
Spellsinger
Sorcerer

 

Fourth group classes:

Destroyer
Tyrant
Warlock
Phantom Summoner
Phantom Ranger
Elemental Summoner (only to change from it)
Spellhowler
Necromancer
 

Level:

AFTER THIRD CLASS

- If your character is level 77 and higher - it's level will be dropped to level 76 and 100%  (Do not Change) Player Should carefully choose when they create character. If they want to change for own reason. They should swallow disadvantage. 

- New class will come with 3rd Class quest complete.

Skills:

- Books for 3rd class skills are not being restored

- Divine inspirations are restored

Penalties:

If char was on oly, it can't change class during that cycle

 If you are Destroyer, you can change class for classes only within 4th group.

This is the idea @San0

If u wanna drink watter, go to a river. But if want "fiesta", go drink beer. The same with classic. Do u want hard content? Play this server (i think this is what you offer). Do u want easy content? Go play x10

It cant be the same way to lvl up like a char u can farm in ABG rather than a char u must to solo. a must to lvl up with RB 60-65-70-75, not a reason and not a must cause i can be from China like i can be from Madagaskar.

The question is: what char is most difficult to lvl up, what char is more easy to farm in olys and what char have the best burst or dps. I agree with Karas.

Edited November 8, 2019 by PaLaZ

[San0 2423]

2 minutes ago, PaLaZ said:

This is the idea @San0
 

sry thats not a viable idea as i mentioned before, this is basically a no changes idea for a service that no longer fulfill its main goal 

[PaLaZ 4]

3 minutes ago, San0 said:

sry thats not a viable idea as i mentioned before, this is basically a no changes idea for a service that no longer fulfill its main goal 

If u want a player who tell the way u want: okey, make the mix u want with this class change.

If u want my opinion: It is a measure to receive more money. Totally legitimate, but disagree from my point of view retail. And a 7 year old world of warcraft official player tells you.

[SemenArsonist 568]

it's okay, all the server factors agreed on your new suggestion, please apply those changes asap so I can reroll to a cancerous class like dagger and annoy other people 

[SemenArsonist 568]

Just now, PaLaZ said:

If u want a player who tell the way u want: okey, make the mix u want with this class change.

If u want my opinion: It is a measure to receive more money. Totally legitimate, but disagree from my point of view retail. And a 7 year old world of warcraft official player tells you.

Damn dude you have an impressive vocabulary for a 7 year old, I'm amazed. 

[PaLaZ 4]

1 minute ago, SemenArsonist said:

Damn dude you have an impressive vocabulary for a 7 year old, I'm amazed. 

Gracias.

[San0 2423]

7 minutes ago, PaLaZ said:

If u want a player who tell the way u want: okey, make the mix u want with this class change.

If u want my opinion: It is a measure to receive more money. Totally legitimate, but disagree from my point of view retail. And a 7 year old world of warcraft official player tells you.

i dont want players to say what i want them to say, but go on a topic that is about the new changes ideas for a old service and basically you idea is to keep the old service, its not the most ideal point of view needed in this topic. the service WILL be changed and that is a FACT. we just trying to figure out with players what people might be more interested in having, and as you can see is the players who are helping on deciding it when we could have just arrived here and announced wtv changes we wanted.

Also this changes are happening due to the amount of player requests. and specially the amount of times that @Anytime asks per day when we planning on making changes on this service.

[PaLaZ 4]

Why is a FACT? Is a FACT for WHO? For you? Or for me, a solo player who lvl up whit 2 solo chars?

This is a lost battle: you will do what ever you want. But please, dont forget the horizont: CLASSIC & RETAIL.

@san0

Edited November 8, 2019 by PaLaZ

[GniTs 26]

Seems good but a bit chaos, I'll think more about it and give my suggestion

Edited November 8, 2019 by GniTs

[KaraS 0]

1 hour ago, San0 said:

this is virtualy no changes from the old sistem so why is it a option ?

 

and the comment on increased size, makes me think you never rly fully read the main class change topic and you fully miss the propose of this service.

Look carefully.. Like I said, Just a little change.

Mom!!! GM reply my comment.. I'm FAMOUS now!!! 

Edited November 8, 2019 by KaraS