Castle Sieges

[ImYrFthr 4]

https://l2wiki.com/classic/Castle_Sieges

• When a registered character or a non-registered characters dies on the battlefield, they lose XP (4%).

@Koll  @San0  @Kse

 

[MoDoy 1772]

i voted yes because thats right thing to do, but then i realized this problem was showed like 2 years ago and to get it in this state took too much time

after i confirmed my vote, i realized it would push zaken update by next 7 months, can i withdraw my "yes" vote please?

[Bestiest player 34]

3 minutes ago, MoDoy said:

i voted yes because thats right thing to do, but then i realized this problem was showed like 2 years ago and to get it in this state took too much time

after i confirmed my vote, i realized it would push zaken update by next 7 months, can i withdraw my "yes" vote please?

make new account and vote no so its gonna be like you didnt vote at all  

Edited June 30, 2019 by Bestiest player

[Lafi 100]

ehm...

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[SemenArsonist 568]

1 minute ago, Lafi said:

ehm...

Forbidden for all users:
1. Create forum accounts:
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oh no, someone call the internet police

[Lafi 100]

who cares, right... i used to it..

[ImYrFthr 4]

27 minutes ago, MoDoy said:

i voted yes because thats right thing to do, but then i realized this problem was showed like 2 years ago and to get it in this state took too much time

after i confirmed my vote, i realized it would push zaken update by next 7 months, can i withdraw my "yes" vote please?

 

24 minutes ago, Bestiest player said:

make new account and vote no so its gonna be like you didnt vote at all  

 

I believe here is a private server and they can make changes to some things and not keep all the official rules.

They can make it happens from next siege that thing with xp at sieges areas and not wait for zaken update.

If your vote was yes because that the right thing like you say no need to make another account to vote no coz the zaken update maybe come here in 10 years ?

[SemenArsonist 568]

I strongly feel that every poll on the forum should have a "Who gives a shit, give us zaken patch or at least an actual event to pass the time" option

[Rip 697]

43 minutes ago, SemenArsonist said:

I strongly feel that every poll on the forum should have a "Who gives a shit, give us zaken patch or at least an actual event to pass the time" option

When i see any poll i think "stupid people, they think they can change anything by voting" 

Admins dont give a shit about any sugestion and polls

Few examples,

Removing cycle macro 46 to 23 

https://l2classic.club/forum/topic/21033-cyclic-macros/

Free teleports till 40 lvl 42 to 8

https://l2classic.club/forum/topic/20904-teleports/

Hero skill changes 58 to 8

https://l2classic.club/forum/topic/19549-hero-skills-changes-suggestion-poll/

Using summon while on mount 158 to 31

https://l2classic.club/forum/topic/17533-summoners-while-on-mount/

 

 

[ImYrFthr 4]

1 hour ago, SemenArsonist said:

I strongly feel that every poll on the forum should have a "Who gives a shit, give us zaken patch or at least an actual event to pass the time" option

If we see the running event fiasco coz some ppl they cry about no give Cloth the Event.

And with out making any poll admins decides to remove Cloth from Event. Just because told them in discord or in privet message i guess!

An event who need 205 items (long time to spend) just to open 1 box and have many changes to take 1 firecracker.

Ppl mast make polls coz some of them can help server changes to better. No need to wait some update to change things!

What about 1 poll: who the f*ck need firecrackers in events? (They can put this in Nostalgia 1 col 50/100 firecrackers) Better give more xp scrolls and death deal certificate box.

 

24 minutes ago, Rip said:

When i see any poll i think "stupid people, they think they can change anything by voting" 

Admins dont give a shit about any sugestion and polls

Few examples,

Removing cycle macro 46 to 23 

https://l2classic.club/forum/topic/21033-cyclic-macros/

Free teleports till 40 lvl 42 to 8

https://l2classic.club/forum/topic/20904-teleports/

Hero skill changes 58 to 8

https://l2classic.club/forum/topic/19549-hero-skills-changes-suggestion-poll/

Using summon while on mount 158 to 31

https://l2classic.club/forum/topic/17533-summoners-while-on-mount/

 

 

Yes I believe too Admins dont give a shit about any suggestion and poll! Why they not remove that option from forum?

Edited June 30, 2019 by ImYrFthr

[MoDoy 1772]

29 minutes ago, Rip said:

When i see any poll i think "stupid people, they think they can change anything by voting" 

Admins dont give a shit about any sugestion and polls

Few examples,

Removing cycle macro 46 to 23 

https://l2classic.club/forum/topic/21033-cyclic-macros/

Free teleports till 40 lvl 42 to 8

https://l2classic.club/forum/topic/20904-teleports/

Hero skill changes 58 to 8

https://l2classic.club/forum/topic/19549-hero-skills-changes-suggestion-poll/

Using summon while on mount 158 to 31

https://l2classic.club/forum/topic/17533-summoners-while-on-mount/

except that removing cycle macro poll was taken into consideration and was said it will be put on next update (i guess they didnt expect it will take them decade to update to zaken), same thing for hero skills changes - we are getting those changes in zaken update because of poll which was made, other way those changes came in antharas update

free teleports, i am pretty sure they are still trying to consider it, idk why they just "try" and not just implement it, hell i would even say they can put first class in nostalgia shop (arguably even second class so newbies can progress faster without this crap), so deleting teleport prices until 40 is only smart think, not like old people are going to abuse it to save that 50k adena to get some camera somewhere

about summons on mount, welp, thats one hella specific nerf i would say and thats why it got denied, as thats directly nerfing 1 certain class type (its like making poll nerf stun shot to work differently than official, then only 3 classes would be affected by it)

[RoolBack 150]

1 hour ago, Rip said:

When i see any poll i think "stupid people, they think they can change anything by voting" 

Admins dont give a shit about any sugestion and polls

Few examples,

Removing cycle macro 46 to 23 

https://l2classic.club/forum/topic/21033-cyclic-macros/

Free teleports till 40 lvl 42 to 8

https://l2classic.club/forum/topic/20904-teleports/

Hero skill changes 58 to 8

https://l2classic.club/forum/topic/19549-hero-skills-changes-suggestion-poll/

Using summon while on mount 158 to 31

https://l2classic.club/forum/topic/17533-summoners-while-on-mount/

 

 

And Broad Sweep from Titan ... ?

[SemenArsonist 568]

47 minutes ago, RoolBack said:

And Broad Sweep from Titan ... ?

I am starting to think that this is something is very hard to code from scratch and this is why the admins are delaying implementing it indefinitely. I can't come up with any other explanation.

[MoDoy 1772]

also i dont like fact that poll is anonymous,  i want to know which suckers are voting for the trash option all the time

[ImYrFthr 4]

1 hour ago, MoDoy said:

also i dont like fact that poll is anonymous,  i want to know which suckers are voting for the trash option all the time

Did you like or not the yes? Which is the trash option? And why?

You can start a new poll with same suggestion and use the “Make voter names public” option.

I believe the community suggestion option in forum is to speak each other for some things which can make ur game play better and helps the majority of players. And ppl try to explain if the suggestion is correct/wrong and why. And not try to make another showtime post!

Forum fight skill “who is bigger smartass” better not use it here.

Here is where the majority win an option and then we ask from admins to think and decides if they want to make the change or not.

[Rip 697]

@MoDoy For me Zaken patch is a myth

[YipMan 319]

Admins wont do it from one simple reason......... 

ppls need to buy breses to get back 1or4%.

But Admins have to ask themself another question do we want to have relatively small sieges to get $$$$ from few breses...... Or we want to get bigger sieges, and drag more peopels to play..... and get some extra PA's players.

I personally think there should be cut on death % penelty on sieges to like 1/4 so 76 ppls dont really feel loss...... and 79/80 will still want to get decent res.

Edited July 1, 2019 by YipMan

[MoDoy 1772]

8 hours ago, ImYrFthr said:

Did you like or not the yes? Which is the trash option? And why?

You can start a new poll with same suggestion and use the “Make voter names public” option.

I believe the community suggestion option in forum is to speak each other for some things which can make ur game play better and helps the majority of players. And ppl try to explain if the suggestion is correct/wrong and why. And not try to make another showtime post!

Forum fight skill “who is bigger smartass” better not use it here.

Here is where the majority win an option and then we ask from admins to think and decides if they want to make the change or not.

obviously option to keep it the way it is now is the trash option, where is the fairness that me as someone without clan wont lose any % in siege zone while i make -4% for people who are registered to fight?

2 hours ago, YipMan said:

Admins wont do it from one simple reason......... 

ppls need to buy breses to get back 1or4%.

But Admins have to ask themself another question do we want to have relatively small sieges to get $$$$ from few breses...... Or we want to get bigger sieges, and drag more peopels to play..... and get some extra PA's players.

I personally think there should be cut on death % penelty on sieges to like 1/4 so 76 ppls dont really feel loss...... and 79/80 will still want to get decent res.

if something, i would maybe think that adding 50% xp back when you click to spawn to flag, so it will be same as CH and might make these flags at least slightly useful, coz right now ppl dont even bother using them because losing full xp on 79/80 is crap for them and not worth it, but i wouldnt go too ham on reducing xp loss on sieges, there should be some penalty for the guys dying to achieve something so it wont end up like sieges 2 years ago, when it was fight of who has more people tapping to flag so other side runs out of mana and you can roll over them with mages auto attacking you with staffs

[nNyxi 46]

this topic is just other joke ;DDD ppl now talking,voting.... after server be set to looze exp in cs... ppl will go there only with boxes  because nobody wonna looze 4 % from lv 80 or 79 chars... sorry just one more trash topic about nothing

[ImYrFthr 4]

2 hours ago, nNyxi said:

this topic is just other joke ;DDD ppl now talking,voting.... after server be set to looze exp in cs... ppl will go there only with boxes  because nobody wonna looze 4 % from lv 80 or 79 chars... sorry just one more trash topic about nothing

This topic made to speak each other and not make another showtime just because some one is smarter from other apes.

Ofc is too hard to loose 4% in 80 or 79/78 lvl in siege areas wen update comes.

Like yipman and modoy say: We need some cut to death % penalty loose and we can take 50% wen return to flag.

Why some one loose 4% from non register and no war tag inside siege area. And no register not loose any xp in siege.

If all loose 1% and flags give 50% back like CH i believe be better for all. And those who need back any%xp they go to town or w8 for brez nothing change for them.

This topic miss 1 more option: (3) All loose 1% in siege areas and the flag give 50% xp back.

Admins plz close this topic.

[Humble 115]

22 minutes ago, ImYrFthr said:

showtime is smarter from other apes.

Can't argue with that!

[FryderykChopin 853]

How about we just remove losing exp on sieges alltogether? I've always thought it was a cancer, it just prevents people from tryharding because it's not worth fighting with such exp loss

Either that or make it 0.1 instead of 4. But losing 4% is retarded and hurts the sport, it's like giving player a yellow card in football if they kick from long distance and don't score.

Edited July 2, 2019 by FryderykChopin

[MoDoy 1772]

4 minutes ago, FryderykChopin said:

How about we just remove losing exp on sieges alltogether? I've always thought it was a cancer, it just prevents people from tryharding because it's not worth fighting with such exp loss

Either that or make it 0.1 instead of 4. But losing 4% is retarded and hurts the sport, it's like giving player a yellow card in football if they kick from long distance and don't score.

should i look for siege videos where people didnt lose xp at all? i am pretty sure @Yomana could tell much more about it. Not losing anything is the worst thing ever, you just tap to flag everytime and run to enemy until enemy runs out of mp (thats what was happening in perks vs DL times), please, dont bring back this cancer

[FryderykChopin 853]

Fair enough-

But lowering the penalty to 0.1 or 0.2 would make the sieges much more better than it is in current state.

[MoDoy 1772]

1 minute ago, FryderykChopin said:

Fair enough-

But lowering the penalty to 0.1 or 0.2 would make the sieges much more better than it is in current state.

you are forgetting important thing, there are death penalty certs, which most of the end game ppl have who really care about %, now if you have only 50% one and flag gives back 50%, you already lose only 0.25% from war tag in sieges zone, if you have flag up you can get EE/BP ress, so you are losing like 0.07-0.15%, thats already like no xp at all

problem right now is why non registered characters dont lose xp in siege zone -> castle owners can go help to other castles for no loss at all when they die, but when they kill people who are registered than the enemy is losing xp, which is obvious bullsh1t